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On March 12 2013 04:37 Sqwrl. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 04:24 Steglich wrote:On March 12 2013 04:21 discator wrote:
stephanoo
its all staged btw
hurr are you serious? What makes you think that it is staged? For one, they do mistakes, which is unusual for both players, and in the analysis of the first game, you can see Stephano whispering "Ready" in-game right before the DTs are getting warped in... That's some points, which can lead you to believe that these games are staged (what are they playing for anyway, other than promotion?)
Ergh... the whisper was real-time with Stephano letting them know he was ready to play the next game... lmao.
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Colossus/Void Ray, that brings back memories.
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Stephano is going to lose I think, Grubby still making phoenixes and with second stargate he can deal with Stephano's mutas.
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Almost 90k viewers now. Keep tweeting! 
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On March 12 2013 04:39 Maesy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 04:37 Sqwrl. wrote:On March 12 2013 04:24 Steglich wrote:On March 12 2013 04:21 discator wrote:
stephanoo
its all staged btw
hurr are you serious? What makes you think that it is staged? For one, they do mistakes, which is unusual for both players, and in the analysis of the first game, you can see Stephano whispering "Ready" in-game right before the DTs are getting warped in... That's some points, which can lead you to believe that these games are staged (what are they playing for anyway, other than promotion?) Ergh... the whisper was real-time with Stephano letting them know he was ready to play the next game... lmao.
yea, whispers don't get saved in replays lol
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On March 12 2013 04:36 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 04:33 farvacola wrote:On March 12 2013 04:30 Exarl25 wrote:On March 12 2013 04:28 farvacola wrote:On March 12 2013 04:25 Exarl25 wrote:On March 12 2013 04:21 farvacola wrote:On March 12 2013 04:18 Exarl25 wrote:On March 12 2013 04:16 Fragile51 wrote:On March 12 2013 04:15 Musicus wrote:
So how long are casters allowed to call abducts amazing and beautiful before we can complain that it's super easy and nothing special? Thing is, abducts are single target and very expensive so picking where to use it and on what is actually a very complex decision. Actually not really. You use it on the Colossi whenever your Vipers are over your army. It can have some cool utilizations but in a situation like that it's as one dimensional as it gets. ...What? If your opponent has shit colossus control and no concept of positioning relative to the new abilities, sure, abduct is easy to pull off. But vipers are expensive, abduct range is not that long, and smart protoss players will pull back colossi in response to viper advance, allowing stalkers to pick em off. The game is not even out and you are acting like the strategies are set in stone. No I'm saying that in the situation in that game with the "amazing abducts" Stephano did the most brain dead obvious thing that anyone in Bronze could pull off and clicked on two Colossi. Abduct has 9 range, don't act like it's difficult or a matter of positioning for the Protoss because that's blatantly false. If Vipers are out against Colossi when the Protoss has no HT then those Colossi are dead Nothing like definitive strategy talk before a game's release. Sorry you either can't control your colossi or you've never seen a toss....you know.....move them...... Can you get your head around the fact that I'm talking about one specific situation and not the ability as a whole? Yes Abduct can have some interesting utilizations, no that was not one of them. Sure, the casters are overhyping a release day game move that shows off a cool new ability, I can agree with that. I was simply replying with incredulity in regards to this statement. If Vipers are out against Colossi when the Protoss has no HT then those Colossi are dead The above might, just might be true, but we cannot know such a thing until the game is released and the metagame really kicks in. Of course we can when Abduct has 9 range and Colossi have 9 range. If the Colossi are out of range of the spell then they aren't doing anything. Vipers are fast and have an army under them that the Protoss can't go near without getting annihilated. It would be like trying to get through a fight without taking a single Viking shot.
Assuming that you know that zerg armies are not single file, 1 unit deep lines, the similarity in range between viper and colossus simply means that colossus position now must change relative to the viper, with both units likely pushing and pulling over top the armies below. With fast hydras and their knack for spreading out too thin, using colossus in the back of one's army to carve off edges of hydras whose ai brings them out from underneath the vipers is not an impossible scenario (the same holds true for roaches honestly).
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On March 12 2013 04:37 Sqwrl. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 04:24 Steglich wrote:On March 12 2013 04:21 discator wrote:
stephanoo
its all staged btw
hurr are you serious? What makes you think that it is staged? For one, they do mistakes, which is unusual for both players, and in the analysis of the first game, you can see Stephano whispering "Ready" in-game right before the DTs are getting warped in... That's some points, which can lead you to believe that these games are staged (what are they playing for anyway, other than promotion?)
Wait what?
The "ready" was when apollo was watching the replay. That was a whisper to apollo telling him that stephano is ready. This wasnt during the game. Replays do not record whispers.
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Tastless stating the obvious is a must have for the new audience.
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Stephano trying to copy nerchio...nothing has changed in HOTS lol
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Oh, this is going to be an interesting game; Skytoss vs Skyzerg.
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Look for a special @StateOfTheGame tonight with myself @EGiNcontroL @ApolloSC2 and @Artosis on the HotS stream! Was a great one-off episode! It's supposed to air about 7 hours from now. There will be a VOD up at midnight EDT @StateOfTheGame on my http://YouTube.com/itmejp
-JP's twitter.
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That phoenix range is a bit ridiculous.
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These long range phoenixes are going to be a pain in my %^&.
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That range
ok i'm not the only one \o/
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phoenix strong. what's the intended counter supposed to be?
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On March 12 2013 04:41 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +Look for a special @StateOfTheGame tonight with myself @EGiNcontroL @ApolloSC2 and @Artosis on the HotS stream! Was a great one-off episode! It's supposed to air about 7 hours from now. There will be a VOD up at midnight EDT @StateOfTheGame on my http://YouTube.com/itmejp -JP's twitter.
sick, can't wait
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On March 12 2013 04:41 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +Look for a special @StateOfTheGame tonight with myself @EGiNcontroL @ApolloSC2 and @Artosis on the HotS stream! Was a great one-off episode! It's supposed to air about 7 hours from now. There will be a VOD up at midnight EDT @StateOfTheGame on my http://YouTube.com/itmejp -JP's twitter.
fuck yeah
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the pheonix range looks like a alpha version of a unit lol
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EPT
