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Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 19:39:55
March 11 2013 19:39 GMT
#2901
On March 12 2013 04:37 Sqwrl. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:24 Steglich wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 discator wrote:
stephanoo

its all staged btw

hurr


are you serious? What makes you think that it is staged?


For one, they do mistakes, which is unusual for both players, and in the analysis of the first game, you can see Stephano whispering "Ready" in-game right before the DTs are getting warped in...
That's some points, which can lead you to believe that these games are staged (what are they playing for anyway, other than promotion?)


Ergh... the whisper was real-time with Stephano letting them know he was ready to play the next game... lmao.
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
March 11 2013 19:39 GMT
#2902
Colossus/Void Ray, that brings back memories.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 11 2013 19:40 GMT
#2903
Stephano is going to lose I think, Grubby still making phoenixes and with second stargate he can deal with Stephano's mutas.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
March 11 2013 19:40 GMT
#2904
Almost 90k viewers now. Keep tweeting!
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
March 11 2013 19:40 GMT
#2905
On March 12 2013 04:39 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:37 Sqwrl. wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:24 Steglich wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 discator wrote:
stephanoo

its all staged btw

hurr


are you serious? What makes you think that it is staged?


For one, they do mistakes, which is unusual for both players, and in the analysis of the first game, you can see Stephano whispering "Ready" in-game right before the DTs are getting warped in...
That's some points, which can lead you to believe that these games are staged (what are they playing for anyway, other than promotion?)


Ergh... the whisper was real-time with Stephano letting them know he was ready to play the next game... lmao.

yea, whispers don't get saved in replays lol
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 19:41:58
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#2906
On March 12 2013 04:36 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:33 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:30 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:28 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:25 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:18 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:16 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:15 Musicus wrote:
So how long are casters allowed to call abducts amazing and beautiful before we can complain that it's super easy and nothing special?


Thing is, abducts are single target and very expensive so picking where to use it and on what is actually a very complex decision.


Actually not really. You use it on the Colossi whenever your Vipers are over your army. It can have some cool utilizations but in a situation like that it's as one dimensional as it gets.

...What? If your opponent has shit colossus control and no concept of positioning relative to the new abilities, sure, abduct is easy to pull off. But vipers are expensive, abduct range is not that long, and smart protoss players will pull back colossi in response to viper advance, allowing stalkers to pick em off. The game is not even out and you are acting like the strategies are set in stone.


No I'm saying that in the situation in that game with the "amazing abducts" Stephano did the most brain dead obvious thing that anyone in Bronze could pull off and clicked on two Colossi. Abduct has 9 range, don't act like it's difficult or a matter of positioning for the Protoss because that's blatantly false. If Vipers are out against Colossi when the Protoss has no HT then those Colossi are dead

Nothing like definitive strategy talk before a game's release. Sorry you either can't control your colossi or you've never seen a toss....you know.....move them......


Can you get your head around the fact that I'm talking about one specific situation and not the ability as a whole? Yes Abduct can have some interesting utilizations, no that was not one of them.

Sure, the casters are overhyping a release day game move that shows off a cool new ability, I can agree with that. I was simply replying with incredulity in regards to this statement.
If Vipers are out against Colossi when the Protoss has no HT then those Colossi are dead

The above might, just might be true, but we cannot know such a thing until the game is released and the metagame really kicks in.


Of course we can when Abduct has 9 range and Colossi have 9 range. If the Colossi are out of range of the spell then they aren't doing anything. Vipers are fast and have an army under them that the Protoss can't go near without getting annihilated. It would be like trying to get through a fight without taking a single Viking shot.

Assuming that you know that zerg armies are not single file, 1 unit deep lines, the similarity in range between viper and colossus simply means that colossus position now must change relative to the viper, with both units likely pushing and pulling over top the armies below. With fast hydras and their knack for spreading out too thin, using colossus in the back of one's army to carve off edges of hydras whose ai brings them out from underneath the vipers is not an impossible scenario (the same holds true for roaches honestly).
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#2907
On March 12 2013 04:37 Sqwrl. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:24 Steglich wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 discator wrote:
stephanoo

its all staged btw

hurr


are you serious? What makes you think that it is staged?


For one, they do mistakes, which is unusual for both players, and in the analysis of the first game, you can see Stephano whispering "Ready" in-game right before the DTs are getting warped in...
That's some points, which can lead you to believe that these games are staged (what are they playing for anyway, other than promotion?)


Wait what?

The "ready" was when apollo was watching the replay. That was a whisper to apollo telling him that stephano is ready. This wasnt during the game. Replays do not record whispers.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#2908
Tastless stating the obvious is a must have for the new audience.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#2909
Stephano trying to copy nerchio...nothing has changed in HOTS lol
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#2910
Oh, this is going to be an interesting game; Skytoss vs Skyzerg.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#2911
Look for a special @StateOfTheGame tonight with myself @EGiNcontroL @ApolloSC2 and @Artosis on the HotS stream! Was a great one-off episode!

It's supposed to air about 7 hours from now. There will be a VOD up at midnight EDT @StateOfTheGame on my http://YouTube.com/itmejp


-JP's twitter.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
iloveB
Profile Joined June 2007
Poland23 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2912
Where is Tasteless?
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2913
That phoenix range is a bit ridiculous.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2914
These long range phoenixes are going to be a pain in my %^&.
Big water
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 19:43:13
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2915
That range

ok i'm not the only one \o/
Terran & Potato Salad.
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2916
Loving the new PvZ :D
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2917
phoenix strong. what's the intended counter supposed to be?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2918
On March 12 2013 04:41 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Look for a special @StateOfTheGame tonight with myself @EGiNcontroL @ApolloSC2 and @Artosis on the HotS stream! Was a great one-off episode!

It's supposed to air about 7 hours from now. There will be a VOD up at midnight EDT @StateOfTheGame on my http://YouTube.com/itmejp


-JP's twitter.

sick, can't wait
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2919
On March 12 2013 04:41 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Look for a special @StateOfTheGame tonight with myself @EGiNcontroL @ApolloSC2 and @Artosis on the HotS stream! Was a great one-off episode!

It's supposed to air about 7 hours from now. There will be a VOD up at midnight EDT @StateOfTheGame on my http://YouTube.com/itmejp


-JP's twitter.

fuck yeah
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
March 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#2920
the pheonix range looks like a alpha version of a unit lol
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