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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 11 2013 19:27 GMT
#2841
On March 12 2013 04:25 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:20 Exarl25 wrote:
Ugh. This is why I really dislike watching foreigners these days. Compared to Flash vs Life earlier this is so painful.

LOL and you're here pretending Flash vs Life was 2 guys playing the perfect game?

Goddamn, some people.


It's placebo also. If instead of Grubby and Stephano names these elitists see Life vs Parting they are OMG THE BEST GAME OF HOTS!
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 11 2013 19:27 GMT
#2842
Apollo can talk very fast without losing his enunciation, very impressive.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 11 2013 19:27 GMT
#2843
Oh how could I be so blind and didn't notice the upgrades lol.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
March 11 2013 19:27 GMT
#2844
On March 12 2013 04:24 DaCruise wrote:
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On March 12 2013 04:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
PvZ 1 trillion bilion million times better in HotS!


From what I have seen so far of Hots, PvZ is actually the best MU now where it used to be the worst in Wol.

PvZ has changed dramatically for the better. It is so much more active due to changes in the mid-game, and late-game is no longer the Protoss dying a slow death to BL/Infestor.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
March 11 2013 19:27 GMT
#2845
On March 12 2013 04:22 Maesy wrote:
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On March 12 2013 04:21 Abominous wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 Ryps wrote:
I dont think Stephano is actually trying to win he never goes to 5k minerals lol not even 2k, just for show

QFT


Yeah. Why would he want to win a tournament? That's silly. He can't be trying because he floated, obviously.

What are they winning ? Is there a prize ?

On March 12 2013 04:24 Targe wrote:
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On March 12 2013 04:22 Maesy wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 Abominous wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 Ryps wrote:
I dont think Stephano is actually trying to win he never goes to 5k minerals lol not even 2k, just for show

QFT


Yeah. Why would he want to win a tournament? That's silly. He can't be trying because he floated, obviously.

Man, stephano never loses, he's obviously not trying? right? right?

He won that game .. you make no sense
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 11 2013 19:28 GMT
#2846
On March 12 2013 04:27 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:25 Bagi wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:20 Exarl25 wrote:
Ugh. This is why I really dislike watching foreigners these days. Compared to Flash vs Life earlier this is so painful.

LOL and you're here pretending Flash vs Life was 2 guys playing the perfect game?

Goddamn, some people.


It's placebo also. If instead of Grubby and Stephano names these elitists see Life vs Parting they are OMG THE BEST GAME OF HOTS!


You didn't watch the game did you?
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
March 11 2013 19:28 GMT
#2847
On March 12 2013 04:23 Warpish wrote:
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On March 12 2013 04:16 Gandhi wrote:
Doesn't abduction just ruin one of the most important thing about the game- positioning? I'm sure there has already been an extensive argument about this, I just haven't kept up.


Yes it does. Unfortunately most people think it's cool and fail to see how it affects the game.


It doesn't ruin positioning more than Snipe or Feedback, when people get used to it, they will move more carefully and good players will have to come with good angles to actually land the spell.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
March 11 2013 19:28 GMT
#2848
woa, that explain why the hydra is shooting rocket launcher :O
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
March 11 2013 19:28 GMT
#2849
On March 12 2013 04:26 Fragile51 wrote:
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On March 12 2013 04:25 Incomplet wrote:
zzzz Tastosis commentating like he is teaching Starcraft2 to a 5 year old.
While I commend him for his undying loyalty to the game, he either needs to actually learn some strategy for the game or shove over for someone with a bit more knowledge of the game...


I don't think you get the grasp of a launch event. It's to promote the game to people that aren't already playing it. Tasteless is doing exactly what he should be doing.


Except he commentates like that even to a 3 year old WOL.
While I do see your point for this particular scenario, I'd bet my hairy ball sack he will still be commentating like that 12 months down the track.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18829 Posts
March 11 2013 19:28 GMT
#2850
On March 12 2013 04:25 Exarl25 wrote:
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On March 12 2013 04:21 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:18 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:16 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:15 Musicus wrote:
So how long are casters allowed to call abducts amazing and beautiful before we can complain that it's super easy and nothing special?


Thing is, abducts are single target and very expensive so picking where to use it and on what is actually a very complex decision.


Actually not really. You use it on the Colossi whenever your Vipers are over your army. It can have some cool utilizations but in a situation like that it's as one dimensional as it gets.

...What? If your opponent has shit colossus control and no concept of positioning relative to the new abilities, sure, abduct is easy to pull off. But vipers are expensive, abduct range is not that long, and smart protoss players will pull back colossi in response to viper advance, allowing stalkers to pick em off. The game is not even out and you are acting like the strategies are set in stone.


No I'm saying that in the situation in that game with the "amazing abducts" Stephano did the most brain dead obvious thing that anyone in Bronze could pull off and clicked on two Colossi. Abduct has 9 range, don't act like it's difficult or a matter of positioning for the Protoss because that's blatantly false. If Vipers are out against Colossi when the Protoss has no HT then those Colossi are dead

Nothing like definitive strategy talk before a game's release. Sorry you either can't control your colossi or you've never seen a toss....you know.....move them......
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 11 2013 19:28 GMT
#2851
On March 12 2013 04:23 Warpish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:16 Gandhi wrote:
Doesn't abduction just ruin one of the most important thing about the game- positioning? I'm sure there has already been an extensive argument about this, I just haven't kept up.


Yes it does. Unfortunately most people think it's cool and fail to see how it affects the game.

Snipe and Feedback can guard your position quite well against it. It acts as another caster battle if you think about it.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2852
maybe grubby will get his tc before 15 mins this time :D
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2853
On March 12 2013 04:28 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:27 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:25 Bagi wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:20 Exarl25 wrote:
Ugh. This is why I really dislike watching foreigners these days. Compared to Flash vs Life earlier this is so painful.

LOL and you're here pretending Flash vs Life was 2 guys playing the perfect game?

Goddamn, some people.


It's placebo also. If instead of Grubby and Stephano names these elitists see Life vs Parting they are OMG THE BEST GAME OF HOTS!


You didn't watch the game did you?


You are the one that claims this game was not action packed. So I assume you are the one watching ponies and cats on Reddit.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2854
Apollo is superhuman.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2855
Well done by Apollo
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2856
On March 12 2013 04:28 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:23 Warpish wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:16 Gandhi wrote:
Doesn't abduction just ruin one of the most important thing about the game- positioning? I'm sure there has already been an extensive argument about this, I just haven't kept up.


Yes it does. Unfortunately most people think it's cool and fail to see how it affects the game.


It doesn't ruin positioning more than Snipe or Feedback, when people get used to it, they will move more carefully and good players will have to come with good angles to actually land the spell.


No they just won't attack with Colossi at that timing.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 19:29:48
March 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2857
Apollo

Puhshing all that info in a short recap only seconds after the game ends..
월요 날 재미있
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 19:30:47
March 11 2013 19:29 GMT
#2858
Serious question.

Is there a point to building colossus against zerg which is progressing rapidly towards hive now? Vipers just seem so effective in hydra comps.

Surely going straight to high templars. would be safer (or doing one of the scary airtoss builds)
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
March 11 2013 19:30 GMT
#2859
I thought there was supposed to be Flash vs NesTea at one of the events?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 11 2013 19:30 GMT
#2860
On March 12 2013 04:28 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:25 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:21 farvacola wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:18 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:16 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:15 Musicus wrote:
So how long are casters allowed to call abducts amazing and beautiful before we can complain that it's super easy and nothing special?


Thing is, abducts are single target and very expensive so picking where to use it and on what is actually a very complex decision.


Actually not really. You use it on the Colossi whenever your Vipers are over your army. It can have some cool utilizations but in a situation like that it's as one dimensional as it gets.

...What? If your opponent has shit colossus control and no concept of positioning relative to the new abilities, sure, abduct is easy to pull off. But vipers are expensive, abduct range is not that long, and smart protoss players will pull back colossi in response to viper advance, allowing stalkers to pick em off. The game is not even out and you are acting like the strategies are set in stone.


No I'm saying that in the situation in that game with the "amazing abducts" Stephano did the most brain dead obvious thing that anyone in Bronze could pull off and clicked on two Colossi. Abduct has 9 range, don't act like it's difficult or a matter of positioning for the Protoss because that's blatantly false. If Vipers are out against Colossi when the Protoss has no HT then those Colossi are dead

Nothing like definitive strategy talk before a game's release. Sorry you either can't control your colossi or you've never seen a toss....you know.....move them......


Can you get your head around the fact that I'm talking about one specific situation and not the ability as a whole? Yes Abduct can have some interesting utilizations, no that was not one of them.
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