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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 15:03:09
February 09 2013 15:02 GMT
#401
On February 09 2013 23:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:55 Alpina wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


It's not that simple dude. I hope you are banned from all future tournaments.

That's a little harsh. Whether his remorse over his actions is genuine and if he stays clean will remain to be seen. But if he can more thoroughly explain himself and prove that he's changed, we have no right keeping him out of tournaments when he's already proved he is a worthy competitor.


Cheating is probably worst you can do in the world of starcraft. So if you it's not banned doing that then what is ban-worthy at all? Oh and of course he didn't cheat in offline tournaments cause it wouldn't even be possible.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
February 09 2013 15:02 GMT
#402
On February 10 2013 00:01 Sirrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


Except you did make a conscious decision to do what you were told (lol, really?) to do. I highly doubt that you were not in charge of your own actions at any time when you were maphacking.

You're guilty, plain and simple, trying to get away from it by saying "someone else made the decision" is a horrible excuse.


That may be, but I think that the point is that if his actions were prompted by, let's say, this stupid ass energy drink sponsor, then they are also supporting cheating. Gives us yet another reason to despise their "drink."
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 15:08:28
February 09 2013 15:04 GMT
#403
Well, Catz looks like a fool now.

On February 10 2013 00:02 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:01 Sirrush wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


Except you did make a conscious decision to do what you were told (lol, really?) to do. I highly doubt that you were not in charge of your own actions at any time when you were maphacking.

You're guilty, plain and simple, trying to get away from it by saying "someone else made the decision" is a horrible excuse.


That may be, but I think that the point is that if his actions were prompted by, let's say, this stupid ass energy drink sponsor, then they are also supporting cheating. Gives us yet another reason to despise their "drink."


He should have found another sponsor... he has no one to blame but himself for his actions.

On February 10 2013 00:01 7mk wrote:
Thats kind of what I was thinking
WCS is the one tournament where ladder ranking really matters.


Ironic that the one tournament he does well in, is the one where you can qualify via the ladder. I am aware he qualified through Playhem, but that is played online too...
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
February 09 2013 15:06 GMT
#404
On February 10 2013 00:04 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:02 TheAmazombie wrote:
On February 10 2013 00:01 Sirrush wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


Except you did make a conscious decision to do what you were told (lol, really?) to do. I highly doubt that you were not in charge of your own actions at any time when you were maphacking.

You're guilty, plain and simple, trying to get away from it by saying "someone else made the decision" is a horrible excuse.


That may be, but I think that the point is that if his actions were prompted by, let's say, this stupid ass energy drink sponsor, then they are also supporting cheating. Gives us yet another reason to despise their "drink."


He should have found another sponsor... He has no one to blame but himself for his actions.


Agree, but sometimes things aren't as simple as they appear to be. There is some background story about the sponsor and daisuki imo.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
February 09 2013 15:06 GMT
#405
On February 10 2013 00:04 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:02 TheAmazombie wrote:
On February 10 2013 00:01 Sirrush wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


Except you did make a conscious decision to do what you were told (lol, really?) to do. I highly doubt that you were not in charge of your own actions at any time when you were maphacking.

You're guilty, plain and simple, trying to get away from it by saying "someone else made the decision" is a horrible excuse.


That may be, but I think that the point is that if his actions were prompted by, let's say, this stupid ass energy drink sponsor, then they are also supporting cheating. Gives us yet another reason to despise their "drink."


He should have found another sponsor... He has no one to blame but himself for his actions.


Again, true, but that is not the point that I am shooting for, not trying to take blame away from his actions, but find out who else knew and supported these actions, for they are also guilty in the support of cheating. Just trying to get clear information, not shift blame.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
February 09 2013 15:07 GMT
#406
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


Rofl what a joke, you are so terrible at lying. The only thing you are sorry about is getting caught. People like you are toxic for the gaming community. Cheating is cheating. You've ruined online experiences for others. I hope you step on a lego and get banned from b.net!
TL+ Member
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
February 09 2013 15:08 GMT
#407
On February 10 2013 00:07 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


Rofl what a joke, you are so terrible at lying. The only thing you are sorry about is getting caught. People like you are toxic for the gaming community. Cheating is cheating. You've ruined online experiences for others. I hope you step on a lego and get banned from b.net!


Whoa now...that is rather harsh. LoL.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 15:13:39
February 09 2013 15:09 GMT
#408
On February 10 2013 00:04 BronzeKnee wrote:
Well, Catz looks like a fool now.

Uhh... his whole post was sarcasm you know.
On February 10 2013 00:07 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!

I hope you step on a lego

Woah dude, I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy :o
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
February 09 2013 15:09 GMT
#409
On February 10 2013 00:02 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 23:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:55 Alpina wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


It's not that simple dude. I hope you are banned from all future tournaments.

That's a little harsh. Whether his remorse over his actions is genuine and if he stays clean will remain to be seen. But if he can more thoroughly explain himself and prove that he's changed, we have no right keeping him out of tournaments when he's already proved he is a worthy competitor.


Cheating is probably worst you can do in the world of starcraft. So if you it's not banned doing that then what is ban-worthy at all? Oh and of course he didn't cheat in offline tournaments cause it wouldn't even be possible.

Cheating + BM + Abuse + Lack of remorse IMO
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2013 15:14 GMT
#410
On February 10 2013 00:09 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:04 BronzeKnee wrote:
Well, Catz looks like a fool now.

Uhh... his whole post was sarcasm you know.
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:07 ReachTheSky wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!

I hope you step on a lego

Woah dude, I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy :o

He even wrote in his post that it was sarcasm so it couldnt be left to interpretation >.>
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
February 09 2013 15:16 GMT
#411
I love how the OP post is really extensive and thorough.

And how the following apology is a text message.
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Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
February 09 2013 15:19 GMT
#412
that stanford education is paying its dividends
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
February 09 2013 15:25 GMT
#413
On February 10 2013 00:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:09 Grobyc wrote:
On February 10 2013 00:04 BronzeKnee wrote:
Well, Catz looks like a fool now.

Uhh... his whole post was sarcasm you know.
On February 10 2013 00:07 ReachTheSky wrote:
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!

I hope you step on a lego

Woah dude, I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy :o

He even wrote in his post that it was sarcasm so it couldnt be left to interpretation >.>


Well, that makes me the fool. I didn't read the whole post.
stava88
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel31 Posts
February 09 2013 15:28 GMT
#414
On February 09 2013 23:50 NITRIXdaisuki wrote:
First off, I’d like to start off by saying that I do not deny any accusations mentioned by the OP.
And so forth...
I have never cheated in any online or offline tournament (and won’t ever.) I did not make this decision to do what I did but agreed to it because it was a worthwhile venture at the time. A venture of which only began about two weeks ago.
I apologize for that.
I’m hoping ladder is not so important as to prevent me from participating in upcoming tournaments. I know I did wrong and learned from it the hard way. I hope that I can be accepted back even though chances of me of ever winning tournaments are pretty slim due to my age. (I’m getting old, fingers, wrist, and shoulder/neck affected after WCS)
“Sigh, when I was good rank 1 GM was easy I hate my life.”
I learned from my mistake. Won't ever happen again!


Ohhhhh poor me
I was forced! They made me do it! THEY MADE ME DO IT GODDDD!!!

How the fuck did you come to the conclusion you learned from it "the hard way|", the "hard way" is for you to be banned from everything for a pretty long time, lose you personal sponsorship and have t o prove yourself from scratch.

It's so pathetic that after being caught you start being all apologetic while trying to minimize the severity of your actions "I hope some laddering isn't important, like...who cares I hacked and ruined people's practice time, and their stream viewership and all sorts of insignificant things like that hahaha"


E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 15:38:59
February 09 2013 15:35 GMT
#415
Is there a proof that Daisuki is that map hack ?? Why not just present the facts and not give the conclusion first (name of thread... yeah I know there is a "?" but come on...) I didn't read all the comments but once again we will come to a conclusion without even listening to the very guy ? ... it's just the hatred towards hackers projected on him. This is not right seriously ...

edit : kk just read that he admitted it but still ...
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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#416
On February 10 2013 00:35 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Is there a proof that Daisuki is that map hack ?? Why not just present the facts and not give the conclusion first (name of thread... yeah I know there is a "?" but come on...) I didn't read all the comments but once again we will come to a conclusion without even listening to the very guy ? ... it's just the hatred towards hackers projected on him. This is not right seriously ...


He already admitted it.

Also if you would bother to read OP's review or watch some reps, then you would see it's obvious that he map hacked.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
February 09 2013 15:41 GMT
#417
On February 10 2013 00:35 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Is there a proof that Daisuki is that map hack ?? Why not just present the facts and not give the conclusion first (name of thread... yeah I know there is a "?" but come on...) I didn't read all the comments but once again we will come to a conclusion without even listening to the very guy ? ... it's just the hatred towards hackers projected on him. This is not right seriously ...

edit : kk just read that he admitted it but still ...


One should read the OP before questioning the OP's validity.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
February 09 2013 15:42 GMT
#418
NITRIX probably paid him for having accounts in high GM or something?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
February 09 2013 15:42 GMT
#419
On February 10 2013 00:35 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Is there a proof that Daisuki is that map hack ?? Why not just present the facts and not give the conclusion first (name of thread... yeah I know there is a "?" but come on...) I didn't read all the comments but once again we will come to a conclusion without even listening to the very guy ? ... it's just the hatred towards hackers projected on him. This is not right seriously ...

edit : kk just read that he admitted it but still ...


but still?
Did you see how damn thorough the OP was?
But still? Fuck this shit, if you have 99.9% evidence but the guy says wasnt me you just forget?
dont be so naive
beep boop
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#420
On February 10 2013 00:42 Quakie wrote:
NITRIX probably paid him for having accounts in high GM or something?


Yes this is what I'm thinking, the higher the account was rated the more $.

Wish he would have explained this instead of just "They made me do it kthxbye"
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