EPTSeems like the reality is that vVv management had ridiculous expectations, and basically expected their team to put in a full-time effort with no promise of return. I wish all of their former players the best of luck!
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
Seems like the reality is that vVv management had ridiculous expectations, and basically expected their team to put in a full-time effort with no promise of return. I wish all of their former players the best of luck! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 30 2013 14:29 Pokebunny wrote: @Titan - sounds like shit if they threaten you at events that if you don't perform you're cut... that's the kind of shit you talk about when the player doesn't already have the stress of playing games. Seems like the reality is that vVv management had ridiculous expectations, and basically expected their team to put in a full-time effort with no promise of return. I wish all of their former players the best of luck! This is absolutely correct. They expected you to play as a full time player and only receive hotel as compensation + mlg pass. Now this could have changed but I have a feeling it did not. Not only that he specifically said that he did not believe in pro players getting a salary (this was when we first had our interview this was before sc2 really exploded as well). I don't know if he ever changed his mind on this later on but I know at the first meeting (I was the first along with murder/time/rigid/ngry and uh can't remember who else) to join vVv and this was what he said some other things I can't remember. I believe I left a few weeks - month later and am very thankful I did. I think the whole having to interact with their vvv community was bullshit as a player should be able to focus on his game more then having to interact + post on twitter + facebook every day at least once. I believe in having to do things for your team but you should also be given something in return if you demand a lot as well which vVv did (demanded a lot, gave little in return except if you paid to go to an MLG you got free hotel and they said they would pay for your pass as well wooo!). | ||
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On January 30 2013 20:35 son1dow wrote: What an elaborate lie. Seriously, this is impressive. I mean, everybody who cares about esports saw the Lord Jerith post. Everybody knows you all got together and scraped this conspiracy for a while to come up with such impressive fake stories and conversations. I'm truly amazed to see this done. *clap clap* You know, if I hadn't read your other post, I wouldn't have been sure you were being sarcastic :p | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On January 30 2013 22:43 redFF wrote: Who are all these random people giving statements. Nobody cares. What you'd rather the thread degrades down to people posting "vvv who?" and "nobody cares" rather than hear people talk about their actually relevant experiences with the team? :| They know firsthand what the organisation is like which beats speculation. | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
esports is growing, down the road (years possibly tens of years) it could become an actual professional endeavor. As tech improves, ways to watch improve, and more people grow up with competitive gaming it's entirely possible. Sports like Basketball, Football etc. didn't just get popular over night, it took years and years on the backs of people who were lucky if they got paid and had to fight for every dollar to become what they are now. For that transition to ever happen organizations such as yours have to be exposed for what they are. People who work in this industries conditions have to improve and over time become a legitimate expenditure of time. Frankly right now for anyone not in the top 1 to 2% of players, entertainers, refs, techs, etc. working in this industry as your only means of a future is a fools errand. To change that things have to change, and organizations who treat people working in the industry unfairly need to be exposed. So I'd strongly disagree that these types of disputes and failings on teams or organizations should not be made public. The more that becomes public in esports the quicker things can get to a more professional level. | ||
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