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Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
January 22 2013 20:18 GMT
#141
Is mlg still related to kespa? Probably some Kespa-only-open-bracket that leads directly to quarterfinals
murkk
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada154 Posts
January 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#142
Open brackets don't have any place in competition IMHO. There should be a way to make the "team" maybe once a year. The constantly changing players makes the whole scene convoluted and really takes away from the anticipation and analysis of the match-ups.
kolofome
Profile Joined December 2010
United States96 Posts
January 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#143
as an amateur competitor, why should i bother going to this event? only thing that kept me from watching this on my computer was the open bracket... and im sure i can't be the only one
battlefield 3 is pretty damn fun
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 20:23:46
January 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#144
It is most likely be a seperate tournament for up-and-coming players aka
the people that cant deal with the pros
*caughtidontknowanything* caugh*
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 20:24:35
January 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#145
While MLG has every right to do whatever they want with their organization I feel like this is slowly moving the actual competition for exclusive foreigner leagues even further and further away from becoming a reality. In fact, even if the next event has an open bracket, which I'm quite sure it does, this move has a direct impact on people who are constantly trying to make a name for themselves, or people who have already booked tickets etc. Honestly, I can't see the foreigner fan base getting too behind an event that is going to be structured the way this one will be.

To be more clear, I think that MLG is actually going to see a hard dip in their numbers this event because people will not be interested in the games played. Especially when the invites+ Show Spoiler +
(invites are already sent as confirmed by HuK's post)
they sent to people are going out to those who are not doing as well as others in the scene at the moment, but got invites almost purely based on just being "recognizable"(for some of them, not all obviously); which literally just makes no sense. It's exactly like snuffing out rising, high level, competing talent in the foreigner scene which is what MLG was supposed to be about.

I really wish I could support MLG as I've been following since 2004 but I may skip watching this tournament because of this :/
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#146
On January 23 2013 05:14 dubRa wrote:
No open bracket for the whole year? whaaat? This is a huge dissapointment for me.

Edit.
Tweet says only in Dallas. Topic name is misleading I think.
Edit.
Title changed

The title wasn't changed, you just didn't read the whole thing.
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jdsowa
Profile Joined March 2011
405 Posts
January 22 2013 20:25 GMT
#147
If I found out that I wasn't going to be given the opportunity to take home 85th place in the open bracket I would get upset and leak the news probably too.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
January 22 2013 20:25 GMT
#148
On January 23 2013 05:11 ReachTheSky wrote:
I hope they aren't trying to make things seem more "exclusive". I've seen enough invitationals with the same sack of players I don't want to see another.


It's funny when you look at it, a lot of players who win the MLG actually come from the open bracket. I personally dislike these invite only tournaments.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 20:27:37
January 22 2013 20:26 GMT
#149
On January 23 2013 05:17 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 05:05 blade55555 wrote:
On January 23 2013 05:02 Butterednuts wrote:
On January 23 2013 04:46 KiF1rE wrote:
On January 23 2013 04:35 Akio00 wrote:
On January 23 2013 04:31 Butterednuts wrote:
Leave it to Team Liquid to already hate an idea that isn't announced yet.


Well said. Before you start complaining too hard, wait until you see what the replacement is. Maybe you'll like it. What a hard concept to grasp.


well the issue with this is, they made an announcement that the community wont like guaranteed. Without offering what is replacing it... And if its online qualifiers or anything of the sort, I wont like it regardless.



How is it guaranteed that the community won't like it? Again, you're still just assuming it's bad.


Well I don't see what else they could possibly do that would give new comers a chance to get their name out there. If it's online qualifiers it's better then nothing but still dumb. I was not a fan of IPL getting rid of their open brackets either :/.


You're still doing it. You're still arguing that there's nothing that can be done that can improve upon the open bracket format. Just calm down and take the news for what it is: an announcement of more news to come.


I'm not angry. I think it's dumb but this won't affect me personally because I wouldn't be going next time anyway. I don't see any way they could improve the bracket and still give new players a chance to come up. I think you need to calm down though as you seem to be getting a little worked up over everyone who doesn't like this
When I think of something else, something will go here
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 22 2013 20:26 GMT
#150
crossing my fingers for open pool play
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Sleet
Profile Joined January 2011
United States139 Posts
January 22 2013 20:27 GMT
#151
This makes me sad because up and coming players don't really have as good of a chance now :\
@SLeetscgames
Endall
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 20:29:01
January 22 2013 20:28 GMT
#152
On January 23 2013 05:18 Jarree wrote:
Is mlg still related to kespa? Probably some Kespa-only-open-bracket that leads directly to quarterfinals


Pretty close to my thinking as well. Not sure what else it could be and this is a reasonable deduction, even though it alienates most of the non-Kespa teams players who didn't qualify. I thought it was too large of a pool play anyway and didn't really produce many stories, other than "so-so-Korean" won his way through the open bracket to make top 4 or so. I would like to see qualifiers instead of the bracket play. More Starcraft to watch between events, as there is also the arenas.

Edit: Fixed spelling mistake
No reply.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
January 22 2013 20:28 GMT
#153
Where is Slasher when you need him ?
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
January 22 2013 20:31 GMT
#154
Waiting for the "50% of seeds will go to random Kespa players, 20% other Koreans, 5% NA, 10% EU ect ect ect" lol
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Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
January 22 2013 20:31 GMT
#155
Its funny to see the scream, people already with the "Wont buy. wont go".
I am very curious if we have some open brackets in US open or Wimbledon.
If not, we for sure must ask for it.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 22 2013 20:31 GMT
#156
I don't know what will replace it but it's still dumb as always by MLG to announce something like that and then not follow it up with the announcement of the alternative they chose.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 22 2013 20:33 GMT
#157
Waiting for the new format to be a weekend of hype commercials and then MLG just announces the champion. Why are we even playing the game when clearly it's the hype that makes all the money?
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
January 22 2013 20:33 GMT
#158
On January 23 2013 05:31 StarVe wrote:
I don't know what will replace it but it's still dumb as always by MLG to announce something like that and then not follow it up with the announcement of the alternative they chose.


As i know by the previous posts, it was not suposed to be this way.
They announced it because some fat guy leaked it on twitter
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
January 22 2013 20:34 GMT
#159
TLDR version will be another arena just with more people in it

Stupid move either way not to follow it up, effective way how to un-hype a tournament.
LuNa.
Profile Joined January 2013
United States20 Posts
January 22 2013 20:35 GMT
#160
Although I agree that not having an open bracket even for this one event is a bad thing, many people are reading too much into this. The tweet was clear in that this was just for Dallas, not every event. Yes from a competitor's standpoint this sucks (I agree because I myself was planning on attending) but this is just 1 event. I think we still have many great things to look forward to this year with MLG, even if some of us won't be able to compete in just 1 event
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