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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 04 2013 04:08 GMT
#421
I see a lot of people with Speed on their main team, can anyone explain? I have him on my anti. He's a pure TvZ sniper with mediocre play, and T8 is probably set up the worst of any team for an all-kill format. I don't think he's going to do well at all.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:15:16
January 04 2013 04:10 GMT
#422
On January 04 2013 12:56 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 12:52 Wunder wrote:
So many Jangbang haters ITT ;;


I was last round and he was the sole reason i didn't break top 50 TT

But selecting your anti team is fucking awful this time, you can only lose and there's no 7-point easy way out called Stephano.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
January 04 2013 04:11 GMT
#423
I have no idea what I'm doing.
Team Mint Berry Crunch

Main Team
6 (Z)Action
2 (Z)Alone
2 (Z)HoeJJa
4 (P)Jaehoon
3 (T)Light
9 (T)TaeJa (captain)
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]

Anti Team
5 (T)hOn_sin
4 (T)Speed
4 (P)Trap
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:16:26
January 04 2013 04:14 GMT
#424
On January 04 2013 13:08 Cel.erity wrote:
I see a lot of people with Speed on their main team, can anyone explain? I have him on my anti. He's a pure TvZ sniper with mediocre play, and T8 is probably set up the worst of any team for an all-kill format. I don't think he's going to do well at all.

Just because he mainly played Zergs doesn't mean he will only beat Zergs. He's 1-0 against Terran and 0-1 against Protoss, that's a sample size you can extrapolate nothing from.

And Team 8 isn't as bad as they're made out to be.

Baby is good overall, Speed looks solid to me (maybe not to you), Jaehoon wins some and loses some but is at least somewhat decent, Terminator is a good PvZ sniper, I think, and there are worse Zergs than Ryul2.

I actually thought about picking them and gambling on them beating Khan and doing decently well against CJ.
Clerseri
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia150 Posts
January 04 2013 04:15 GMT
#425
Buffer into gg

Main Team
2 (T)Classic
9 (T)Fantasy
3 (Z)Hydra
3 (T)Light
1 (P)Mini (captain)
8 (P)Shy
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]

Anti Team
2 (Z)IdrA
6 (P)JangBi
5 (P)JYP

One thing that irks me about the captain system is there's no upside - for my team, I'd prefer to have fantasy or shy as my captain, but I might actually want to trade those players, whereas mini will never be good enough to trade for anyone decent, so I can have him captained safely.

I feel like if captains scored double or something (as they do in other fantasy games I've played) then there would be a bit of risk/reward.

Overall principles - get guys who are going to be sent out. No longer are teams sending out 6 players (7 counting ace). Now it's just 4 players each match who will be up there.

My team:
Classic - solid pedigree, bad record last round, but I think he might be able to pull it out, plus cheap.

Fantasy is a confirmed starter against JYP, and he's an excellent player. I'd back him for that match and could well go on for a big result. Might get traded for Taeja after round 1 (EGTL have SKT1 and KT in R1, so not keen on their chances)

Hydra had a solid season and gets sent out a LOT. He's up against terminator first round, which is winnable, and then T8's soft underbelly could be exposed.

Light - If he gets sent out, he's my hot pick for most undervalued player. 2-0 last round, their captain, great pedigree - could be this round's Wooki. Plus, he's sent out first round, so that's a good sign (and if he beats stork, soft underbelly of Khan beckons)

Mini - a bit trash, but he had a not terrible record last round (1-2), which means he's sent out a bit and knows what it's like to win on TV. Pretty solid for 1 point.

sOs - was a bit of a boss last round, and stars are playing Khan and CJ. Can also possibly trade for some of those juicy 6-7 pointers.

Anti-team
Idra won't play
Jangbi is a bit of a risk.. but he isn't first up in the first round, and didn't have a stellar record.
JYP is a) not that good, b) going to struggle to be sent out ahead of EGTL's top heavy lineup and c) up against Fantasy and the other match is against KT Rolster. I can trade him out after R1 if needed.
Fantasy will be the next big thing in SC2.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
January 04 2013 04:15 GMT
#426
On January 04 2013 13:06 Darkaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 12:55 slowbacontron wrote:
On January 04 2013 12:51 Darkaros wrote:
I didn't post my last round team, but since I actually did decently (Eh, #1079 for first time) here's this round's:

TaeJa Take The Wheel

Main Team
3 (T)Bbyong
4 (P)Jaehoon
3 (T)Light
3 (Z)Revival
4 (T)Speed
9 (T)TaeJa (captain)
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]

Anti Team
4 (Z)hyvaa
6 (P)JangBi
3 (T)Reality

lotsa text

High five for same antiteams!

Haha, we even have similar thinking for our main teams. I wanted a more rounded team and opted for Speed/Bbyong/Jaehoon instead of trying to add in another high value player like Flash though. GL!

GLGL. I hold an unbreakable rule to get Flash as my captain. It was actually Taeja who I decided to throw in for the occasion! I do like your well-rounded team though.
jjakji fan
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 04 2013 04:16 GMT
#427
On January 04 2013 13:11 LambtrOn wrote:
I have no idea what I'm doing.
Team Mint Berry Crunch

Main Team
6 (Z)Action
2 (Z)Alone
2 (Z)HoeJJa
4 (P)Jaehoon
3 (T)Light
9 (T)TaeJa (captain)
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]

Anti Team
5 (T)hOn_sin
4 (T)Speed
4 (P)Trap


Looks good to me, though personally I think a 1 and a 3 is better than a 2 and a 2 in this format, since low-cost players will rarely play at all. You could pick a 1 from your favorite team and a 3 that you think will perform well.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Scynite
Profile Joined December 2012
United States3 Posts
January 04 2013 04:17 GMT
#428
Exalted Templars

Main Team
3 (T)Bbyong
3 (P)Bisu
10 (T)Flash (captain)
3 (Z)Hydra
3 (T)Light
2 (T)ThorZain
6 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd]

Anti Team
4 (Z)hyvaa
4 (P)Jaehoon
5 (P)Stork

Bit worried about this team here.. Surprisingly I did much better in Round 1, but that's probably because I had majority KT players and KT as my team reeling in the points for me.
I still wanted Flash as my team captain because I feel like he will always produce some good results and get maybe a multi-kill here and there.
Bbyong is a solid Terran so he shouldn't be too bad right?
Bisu.. It was a choice between him or Best and I wasn't too sure so I just went ahead with Bisu.
Hydra seems like a solid Zerg, but I don't know if I should go with him or Revival.
Light, you guys all say is going to be a boss so follow the crowd right? Haha. It was either him or Last, which I may reconsider for Last instead.
Thorzain cause you know I needed a 2 pointer and he could potentially grab some multi-kills.
And ya know KT I hope can rock this Round and get me all the juicy points.

My anti-team was just who didn't do as well in Round 1 so it's a total shot in the dark there.
LGMegazoR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:33:48
January 04 2013 04:17 GMT
#429
TheOOD

Main Team
3 (P)Bisu
2 (P)Flying
7 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
3 (T)Last
3 (Z)Revival
6 (Z)RorO
6 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd]

Anti Team
5 (P)JYP
3 (T)Light
5 (Z)ZerO

Im being very risky with the use of so many kespa players on my main team but i think they have the potential to do very well.
Im in the rear with the Gear
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:20:20
January 04 2013 04:20 GMT
#430
I need some help guys. All DAY I've been debating Stork vs JYP on anti team (along with Hyvaa and Trap).

What do you think?

Poll: Stork or JYP anti team?

Stork (13)
 
87%

JYP (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Stork or JYP anti team?

(Vote): Stork
(Vote): JYP



On the one hand, my gut says JYP.

Both JYP and Stork are starting in one game in the first week. JYP is up against Fantasy where he'll probably lose, and Stork is against Light which could go either way. BUT, I expect EGTL to do better than Khan this time FOR SURE, and I expect JYP will be played as a PvP or PvZ sniper depending on the matchup, and his best matchups seem to be better than Stork's best matchups. So in the long run, I think Stork on the Anti team will work better than JYP unless Stork just goes ape shit on Woojin Stars, despite the fact that in week one, JYP will most likely lose to Fantasy so he'd be a pretty good bet for Anti team... Maybe I should start with JYP then trade to Stork... But I'm not sure if I'll be able to do that.

I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 04 2013 04:20 GMT
#431
On January 04 2013 13:14 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:08 Cel.erity wrote:
I see a lot of people with Speed on their main team, can anyone explain? I have him on my anti. He's a pure TvZ sniper with mediocre play, and T8 is probably set up the worst of any team for an all-kill format. I don't think he's going to do well at all.

Just because he mainly played Zergs doesn't mean he will only beat Zergs. He's 1-0 against Terran and 0-1 against Protoss, that's a sample size you can extrapolate nothing from.


He was sent out on Zerg maps, he's a Zerg sniper. That indicates TvZ is his best matchup. And having seen his games, his TvZ was not very impressive, therefore, I assume his other two matchups are also not impressive. Not extrapolating anything.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 04 2013 04:24 GMT
#432
On January 04 2013 13:20 TheDougler wrote:
I need some help guys. All DAY I've been debating Stork vs JYP on anti team (along with Hyvaa and Trap).

What do you think?

Poll: Stork or JYP anti team?

Stork (13)
 
87%

JYP (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Stork or JYP anti team?

(Vote): Stork
(Vote): JYP



On the one hand, my gut says JYP.

Both JYP and Stork are starting in one game in the first week. JYP is up against Fantasy where he'll probably lose, and Stork is against Light which could go either way. BUT, I expect EGTL to do better than Khan this time FOR SURE, and I expect JYP will be played as a PvP or PvZ sniper depending on the matchup, and his best matchups seem to be better than Stork's best matchups. So in the long run, I think Stork on the Anti team will work better than JYP unless Stork just goes ape shit on Woojin Stars, despite the fact that in week one, JYP will most likely lose to Fantasy so he'd be a pretty good bet for Anti team... Maybe I should start with JYP then trade to Stork... But I'm not sure if I'll be able to do that.




They're both in tough match-ups. That's why I went with Speed and BeSt to pick up the pace early so I can trade up if need be before next week. JYP is playing where I saw him playing at. Just above 50%. Any player who is capable of playing at that rate is a vet and you should tread carefully. That's why I think Stork on your anti-team might be more advisable. JYP and Stork will be sent out a lot though and you know how January loves her Protoss line so it's playing with fire and you really have to hope Stork doesn't get hot. Compared to Jangbi I'd say Stork is a safer bet on your anti.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 04 2013 04:25 GMT
#433
first of all i was lazy to make a fantasy league for the round 1 but i had time to waste and it's pretty funny so why not ^^

here my team :

Broncos de Denver

Main Team
3 (Z)Hydra
11 (P)Rain (captain)
3 (T)Reality
3 (Z)Revival
5 (Z)soO
2 (T)ThorZain
3 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]CJ Entus[/tlpd]

Anti Team
3 (P)Bisu
7 (Z)Jaedong
3 (Z)Zenio
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:29:42
January 04 2013 04:27 GMT
#434
On January 04 2013 13:20 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:14 StarVe wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:08 Cel.erity wrote:
I see a lot of people with Speed on their main team, can anyone explain? I have him on my anti. He's a pure TvZ sniper with mediocre play, and T8 is probably set up the worst of any team for an all-kill format. I don't think he's going to do well at all.

Just because he mainly played Zergs doesn't mean he will only beat Zergs. He's 1-0 against Terran and 0-1 against Protoss, that's a sample size you can extrapolate nothing from.


He was sent out on Zerg maps, he's a Zerg sniper. That indicates TvZ is his best matchup. And having seen his games, his TvZ was not very impressive, therefore, I assume his other two matchups are also not impressive. Not extrapolating anything.

Since when is Antiga solely a Zerg map? That's news to me.

Tal'darim, okay. I get that. Antiga? Not sure if they always assumed a Zerg would be sent out there.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 04 2013 04:29 GMT
#435
Haruhi is seriously like the most under-rated choice, he's KR GM but suffers from nervousness (from Baby's interview, I believe).

Only matter of time, betting on this season!
Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
January 04 2013 04:30 GMT
#436
Ry2D2

Main Team
6 (Z)Action (captain)
5 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
5 (P)Dear
2 (T)Major
6 (P)Wooki
2 (T)yeOngJae
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
January 04 2013 04:30 GMT
#437
On January 04 2013 13:24 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:20 TheDougler wrote:
I need some help guys. All DAY I've been debating Stork vs JYP on anti team (along with Hyvaa and Trap).

What do you think?

Poll: Stork or JYP anti team?

Stork (13)
 
87%

JYP (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Stork or JYP anti team?

(Vote): Stork
(Vote): JYP



On the one hand, my gut says JYP.

Both JYP and Stork are starting in one game in the first week. JYP is up against Fantasy where he'll probably lose, and Stork is against Light which could go either way. BUT, I expect EGTL to do better than Khan this time FOR SURE, and I expect JYP will be played as a PvP or PvZ sniper depending on the matchup, and his best matchups seem to be better than Stork's best matchups. So in the long run, I think Stork on the Anti team will work better than JYP unless Stork just goes ape shit on Woojin Stars, despite the fact that in week one, JYP will most likely lose to Fantasy so he'd be a pretty good bet for Anti team... Maybe I should start with JYP then trade to Stork... But I'm not sure if I'll be able to do that.




They're both in tough match-ups. That's why I went with Speed and BeSt to pick up the pace early so I can trade up if need be before next week. JYP is playing where I saw him playing at. Just above 50%. Any player who is capable of playing at that rate is a vet and you should tread carefully. That's why I think Stork on your anti-team might be more advisable. JYP and Stork will be sent out a lot though and you know how January loves her Protoss line so it's playing with fire and you really have to hope Stork doesn't get hot. Compared to Jangbi I'd say Stork is a safer bet on your anti.


Thanks StarStruck, that helps a lot and I agree with your assessment completely. Like I said, JYP failing is only a gut instinct, but everything else in me says that if I have to pick a five pointer to not do well, it's Stork.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:33:37
January 04 2013 04:31 GMT
#438
KT V Chef

Main Team
6 (Z)Action
5 (T)hOn_sin
3 (T)Light
2 (T)Major
4 (T)Speed
6 (P)Wooki (captain)
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]

Anti Team
6 (P)JangBi
5 (P)Stork
2 (T)Turn

I made my team based on players with good cost/points ratio in R1.

* wooki, Action and h0n_sin did great for cost 3 players, and I think they'll do well.
* Speed and Light give some trade flexibility if they don't do as well as expected.
* I picked Major as a fellow Mexican.
* I expect T1 to do well with Rain, Fantasy and Soo. Yeah, I sold out

Anti-team: Samsung will continue to struggle.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
January 04 2013 04:32 GMT
#439
On January 04 2013 13:29 Pandain wrote:
Haruhi is seriously like the most under-rated choice, he's KR GM but suffers from nervousness (from Baby's interview, I believe).

Only matter of time, betting on this season!

Didn't even have a TLPD so I know nothing about him TT It'd be cool if I could find the interview.

On January 04 2013 13:30 Ry2D2 wrote:
Ry2D2

Main Team
6 (Z)Action (captain)
5 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
5 (P)Dear
2 (T)Major
6 (P)Wooki
2 (T)yeOngJae
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]

Having an anti team is overrated.
jjakji fan
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:39:11
January 04 2013 04:37 GMT
#440
ploppers

Main Team
3 (P)Bisu
2 (T)Classic
9 (T)TaeJa (captain)
3 (P)Terminator
4 (P)Trap
5 (Z)ZerO
4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]

Anti Team
5 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
7 (P)HerO
2 (T)Puma

hero and puma might be pretty controversial in my anti team, but i don't feel like either of them is playing particularly well in the matchups that they are likely to play in...
Watch out for Bisu about to hit form (maybe wishful thinking )
RIP Meatloaf <3
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