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Regarding the Defwin against stephano at HSC VI - Page 8

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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 21 2012 23:33 GMT
#141
There is no justification for refusing the 2-0 lead in a bo5. That's better treatment than other people in the exact same tournament (MKP-Violet). Someone's taking this tournament (which is for fun, not a premier event) a little too seriously..
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Gropah
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands58 Posts
December 21 2012 23:35 GMT
#142
Not sure if real XlorD as he only has one post...
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 23:36:48
December 21 2012 23:36 GMT
#143
It is also his true breakout tournament in SC2, too bad he acted the way he did, everybody will remember him by that and not his great performance so far.
On December 22 2012 08:35 Gropah wrote:
Not sure if real XlorD as he only has one post...

Why would it not be XlorD? Not all pros post into TL at all.
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
December 21 2012 23:36 GMT
#144
On December 22 2012 08:33 zefreak wrote:
There is no justification for refusing the 2-0 lead in a bo5. That's better treatment than other people in the exact same tournament (MKP-Violet). Someone's taking this tournament (which is for fun, not a premier event) a little too seriously..


Same thoughts, couldn't believe that this was just a plain win, after beeing absent for a few minutes of the stream.
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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
December 21 2012 23:36 GMT
#145
On December 22 2012 08:27 odem wrote:
such a unsympathetic person really.

i think the rest of this thread will disagree with you
My religion is Starcraft
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
December 21 2012 23:39 GMT
#146
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?
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Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
December 21 2012 23:39 GMT
#147
On December 22 2012 08:36 snively wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:27 odem wrote:
such a unsympathetic person really.

i think the rest of this thread will disagree with you


Nope
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Zyrhon
Profile Joined May 2011
3 Posts
December 21 2012 23:39 GMT
#148
I dont think people are reacting to this because that u had or didnt have the win, It's the way you reacted to the casters peopler are reacting to.. It doesn't make you BM but geeh, 2 - 0 in a BO5 .. Why not accept that and look like a "hero"?
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 21 2012 23:40 GMT
#149
On December 22 2012 08:39 jinorazi wrote:
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?


Yes, but most other players would have acted differently, and have when put in that situation. People don't like rooting for people who throw fits in public
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 21 2012 23:40 GMT
#150
On December 22 2012 08:39 jinorazi wrote:
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?

It's not the disconnect that's causing all the ruckus, it's XlorD's behavior after it.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 21 2012 23:41 GMT
#151
On December 22 2012 08:39 Zyrhon wrote:
I dont think people are reacting to this because that u had or didnt have the win, It's the way you reacted to the casters peopler are reacting to.. It doesn't make you BM but geeh, 2 - 0 in a BO5 .. Why not accept that and look like a "hero"?


It absolutely makes it look like BM. He was on camera screaming like a child and refusing any sort of middle ground solution. We've seen comebacks in games before, why not in this one? Anything can happen.
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Antares_
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland269 Posts
December 21 2012 23:42 GMT
#152
Xlord, you were just acting like a little child, crying for a free win. We've seen many comebacks in even more "100% win situations", and you were just standing there and begging to get a defwin. Any mannered playered would have agreed on a rematch. Look at GSTL Finals between StarTale and Prime - you never can state a winner until someone gg's out. You've lost a lot of respect in my eyes in that situation. You should've prooen that you're a better player by winning in a rematch, not acting like an irritating kid just so Stephano gives you a win, because he can behave much more mature than you and he wouldn't argue with you because it would be like playing chess with a pigeon. Even if you win, the pigeon would fall the figures, shit on the board and act like he won. Someone has to teach you about honour and good behaviour, before you try to call yourself a pro-gamer, which you will never become if you keep acting like a 12 year old girl. Man up already.
If you make no mistake, yet still lose - you don't understand the game. Spiral out, keep going.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
December 21 2012 23:42 GMT
#153
On December 22 2012 08:39 jinorazi wrote:
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?


That is what is really bothering me, it is like people have forgotten that this shit really cant happen in the other big esport titles(Lan, resume from replay etc), it is just because Blizzard is hamstringing the esports scene with their DRM and piss poor UI this even happened.

I guess people gave up blaming Blizzard after the first big incidents of this happening since apparently they cant solve it in a timely manner.
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 23:44:13
December 21 2012 23:43 GMT
#154
On December 22 2012 08:42 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:39 jinorazi wrote:
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?


That is what is really bothering me, it is like people have forgotten that this shit really cant happen in the other big esport titles(Lan, resume from replay etc), it is just because Blizzard is hamstringing the esports scene with their DRM and piss poor UI this even happened.

I guess people gave up blaming Blizzard after the first big incidents of this happening since apparently they cant solve it in a timely manner.

Been said previously on this page, it's not the disconnect that is causing the majority of the drama, it's XlorD's behavior following the disconnect, disconnects has happened before so often that there is ways you deal with it now.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 23:48:22
December 21 2012 23:46 GMT
#155
On December 22 2012 08:43 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:42 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 22 2012 08:39 jinorazi wrote:
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?


That is what is really bothering me, it is like people have forgotten that this shit really cant happen in the other big esport titles(Lan, resume from replay etc), it is just because Blizzard is hamstringing the esports scene with their DRM and piss poor UI this even happened.

I guess people gave up blaming Blizzard after the first big incidents of this happening since apparently they cant solve it in a timely manner.

Been said previously on this page, it's not the disconnect that is causing the majority of the drama, it's XlorD's behavior following the disconnect, disconnects has happened before so often that there is ways you deal with it now.


Yes, and that is stupid, the focus should not be on XlorD at all, even though I think what he did was normal - Athletes in other sports constantly challange the refs calls and if the tournament is run properly the players would have no say in it. The fact that people are on XlorDs back for wanting & pushing for the best outcome for him is pretty silly.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
December 21 2012 23:46 GMT
#156
On December 22 2012 07:43 AngryMag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:39 MarkCJ wrote:
reddit doesn't seem too happy LOL


No offence to reddit users, but when was reddit ever happy? They bitch, whine and moan at every little opportunity, be it emailing sponsors for minor stuff, witchhunting players who said something stupid or denouncing the work others put up for the community.. TBH I do not think that decision makers around the esports scene should care about reddit even one bit, they will whine regardless...


To be completely honest, there's very little difference between Reddit and the TL forums. Both are kneejerk, witch-hunting, bandwagoning communities.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
December 21 2012 23:48 GMT
#157
On December 22 2012 08:43 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:42 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 22 2012 08:39 jinorazi wrote:
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?


That is what is really bothering me, it is like people have forgotten that this shit really cant happen in the other big esport titles(Lan, resume from replay etc), it is just because Blizzard is hamstringing the esports scene with their DRM and piss poor UI this even happened.

I guess people gave up blaming Blizzard after the first big incidents of this happening since apparently they cant solve it in a timely manner.

Been said previously on this page, it's not the disconnect that is causing the majority of the drama, it's XlorD's behavior following the disconnect, disconnects has happened before so often that there is ways you deal with it now.


There is actually 0 way of dealing with a disconnect. Since you can't wait it out forever and there's no resuming from a particular point. You either hand out a win or loss or you rematch. None of those three are going to play the game in the exact same way and the players will not have the exact same thoughts going through the game. Even rematching the game can play out completely differently. All blame should go to blizzard.
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
December 21 2012 23:48 GMT
#158
you may have been ahead, but there still should have been a regame.
i love you
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 21 2012 23:48 GMT
#159
On December 22 2012 08:46 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:43 Hiea wrote:
On December 22 2012 08:42 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 22 2012 08:39 jinorazi wrote:
shouldnt the disconnect blame go to.....

blizzard?


That is what is really bothering me, it is like people have forgotten that this shit really cant happen in the other big esport titles(Lan, resume from replay etc), it is just because Blizzard is hamstringing the esports scene with their DRM and piss poor UI this even happened.

I guess people gave up blaming Blizzard after the first big incidents of this happening since apparently they cant solve it in a timely manner.

Been said previously on this page, it's not the disconnect that is causing the majority of the drama, it's XlorD's behavior following the disconnect, disconnects has happened before so often that there is ways you deal with it now.


Yes, and that is stupid, the focus should not be on XlorD at all, even though I think what he did was normal - Athletes in other sports constantly challange the refs calls and if the tournament is run properly the players would have no say in it.

Athletes in other sports acting unprofessionally is not a good reason to do so as well.
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
December 21 2012 23:49 GMT
#160
The usual ruling in an SC2 tournament where a DC occurs, is that incase it is not obvious to everyone that one player would win.. its a rematch.

The default result of a disconnect is a remake, and the exception is to give the win to a player. This seems like the other way around. Everyone is discussing this from the standpoint that giving the default is giving the win to the leading player and remaking is the exception.

Very cool and muture of Stephano to stop the discussion and just going to the next game. A perfect example of a player who is confident in himself, and he just want to play the game. XlorD however seem like he is afraid of playing agianst Stephano and just wanted a win.

I dont think the lead was big enough for them to decide for a remake, anyho.. done is done. Lets move on and hope that Alexander Garfield puts his dick back in his pants before this grows out of proportions.
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