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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 18 2012 19:06 GMT
#21
On December 19 2012 04:02 Cuce wrote:
thor gets +6 dmg per upg and higher than dark templar,


This is incorrect, but you are within the right thinking. When thors get +1 they get an additional 3 damage added to their attacks. They attack in a 2 part series which means in the course of both attacks (which happen very quickly) it is an additional 6 damage.

Check out more info on the Thor
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 19:10:41
December 18 2012 19:07 GMT
#22
On December 19 2012 04:00 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!



Please don't accuse them of being wrong so fast without doing some research.

The Mothership has 350 health and 350 shields. I asked which unit had the most health and the mothership has only 350 health, not 700.


Meh, technically you're wrong. According to Liquipedia, it's called "hitpoints" and plasma shields, not "health" and plasma shields.

You're making a trick question and it kind of backfired.

Mothership: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mothership_(Wings_of_Liberty)

Hitpoints (not "health", per se): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Icon_Hitpoints.png&filetimestamp=20100213175646

Furthermore, if you look here: "Terran SCVs have 5 more health than the other workers" ~http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SCV then this implies that plasma shields are included in the overall health sum of a unit. Hitpoints + plasma shields = health for a unit.

So fix #5 please. Motherships have 700 health: 350 hitpoints + 350 plasma shields.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
December 18 2012 19:09 GMT
#23
21/22

I got 20 wrong as I thought best speed increase would be as a percentage of original movement speed ):

On December 19 2012 04:00 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!



Please don't accuse them of being wrong so fast without doing some research.

The Mothership has 350 health and 350 shields. I asked which unit had the most health and the mothership has only 350 health, not 700.


Question 3 is correct.
Battlecruisers start with 50 energy and can be upgraded by 25 through the Behemoth Reactor upgrade.
Infestors start with 50 energy and can be upgraded by 25 through the Pathogen Glans upgrade.
Ravens start with 50 energy and can be upgraded by 25 through the Corvid Reactor upgrade.
High Templars start with 50 energy and cannot have their starting energy upgraded.


I think he meant as he got 3 wrong answers haha.
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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 18 2012 19:09 GMT
#24
On December 19 2012 04:06 [F_]aths wrote:
The hydra speed multiplier is 1.5, so the queen and broodling are not the only units which have a multiplier different than 1.3.


The Broodling actually gets zero additional speed from being on creep. :D
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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 18 2012 19:11 GMT
#25
On December 19 2012 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:00 Butterednuts wrote:
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!



Please don't accuse them of being wrong so fast without doing some research.

The Mothership has 350 health and 350 shields. I asked which unit had the most health and the mothership has only 350 health, not 700.


Meh, technically you're wrong. According to Liquipedia, it's called "hitpoints" and plasma shields, not "health" and plasma shields.

You're making a trick question and it kind of backfired.

Mothership: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mothership_(Wings_of_Liberty)

Hitpoints (not "health", per se): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Icon_Hitpoints.png&filetimestamp=20100213175646

Furthermore, if you look here: "Terran SCVs have 5 more health than the other workers" ~http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SCV then this implies that plasma shields are included in the overall health sum of a unit. Hitpoints + plasma shields = health for a unit.

So fix #5 please. Motherships have 700 health: 350 hitpoints + 350 plasma shields.



This is exactly what I said about some questions being misinterpreted wrong. I have updated the OP. Thanks for this clarification. <3
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Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
December 18 2012 19:11 GMT
#26
I thought this would be stupid at first, but it ended up being lots of fun, especially because I'm SC2 stupid and didn't know half of them haha
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
December 18 2012 19:12 GMT
#27
On December 19 2012 04:11 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:00 Butterednuts wrote:
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!



Please don't accuse them of being wrong so fast without doing some research.

The Mothership has 350 health and 350 shields. I asked which unit had the most health and the mothership has only 350 health, not 700.


Meh, technically you're wrong. According to Liquipedia, it's called "hitpoints" and plasma shields, not "health" and plasma shields.

You're making a trick question and it kind of backfired.

Mothership: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mothership_(Wings_of_Liberty)

Hitpoints (not "health", per se): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Icon_Hitpoints.png&filetimestamp=20100213175646

Furthermore, if you look here: "Terran SCVs have 5 more health than the other workers" ~http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SCV then this implies that plasma shields are included in the overall health sum of a unit. Hitpoints + plasma shields = health for a unit.

So fix #5 please. Motherships have 700 health: 350 hitpoints + 350 plasma shields.



This is exactly what I said about some questions being misinterpreted wrong. I have updated the OP. Thanks for this clarification. <3


Sure Awesome quiz overall
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
December 18 2012 19:13 GMT
#28
On December 19 2012 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:00 Butterednuts wrote:
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!



Please don't accuse them of being wrong so fast without doing some research.

The Mothership has 350 health and 350 shields. I asked which unit had the most health and the mothership has only 350 health, not 700.


Meh, technically you're wrong. According to Liquipedia, it's called "hitpoints" and plasma shields, not "health" and plasma shields.

You're making a trick question and it kind of backfired.

Mothership: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mothership_(Wings_of_Liberty)

Hitpoints (not "health", per se): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Icon_Hitpoints.png&filetimestamp=20100213175646

Furthermore, if you look here: "Terran SCVs have 5 more health than the other workers" ~http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SCV then this implies that plasma shields are included in the overall health sum of a unit. Hitpoints + plasma shields = health for a unit.

So fix #5 please. Motherships have 700 health: 350 hitpoints + 350 plasma shields.


I think that's stupid. It's his quiz, he doesn't have to fix it, so please stop being so demanding. Also I agree with him, mothership has 350hp just as archon has 10hp. Every caster says archon's have 10hp and 350shield. hp = health points = health.

Anyways, enjoy the quiz, and don't argue stupid shit. -.-


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MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
December 18 2012 19:13 GMT
#29
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!


5 is correct and 3 is correct.

If his question were worded combined health and shields then you would be correct.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 19:16:11
December 18 2012 19:14 GMT
#30
On December 19 2012 03:32 Butterednuts wrote:

Question 2
+ Show Spoiler +
In StarCraft II, what range, in which all but one unit attacks, is melee range?
A) 1
B) .5
C) .1
D) 0


Answer 2
+ Show Spoiler +
C. The exception is the Baneling which explodes at .25 but is still considered a melee fighter.




I read somewhere that the Ultralisk range is actually 1... where does this leave the question?

Edit: I like nitpicking .... Cool quiz though, awoke my competitive spirit
lSasquatchl
Profile Joined February 2011
United States309 Posts
December 18 2012 19:16 GMT
#31
Pretty sure the Infested Terran doesn't move faster on creep.
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 18 2012 19:19 GMT
#32
On December 19 2012 04:16 lSasquatchl wrote:
Pretty sure the Infested Terran doesn't move faster on creep.


I'm pretty sure they do

(Wiki)Infested Terran
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
December 18 2012 19:19 GMT
#33
For the last question I only count 6 for Protoss. Are we counting Interceptor as a unit separate from the Carrier?
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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 18 2012 19:22 GMT
#34
On December 19 2012 04:19 Hier wrote:
For the last question I only count 6 for Protoss. Are we counting Interceptor as a unit separate from the Carrier?


The Team Liquid wiki has the Intercepter as a unit and I agree.

(Wiki)Units
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
December 18 2012 19:23 GMT
#35
On December 19 2012 04:13 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:00 Butterednuts wrote:
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!



Please don't accuse them of being wrong so fast without doing some research.

The Mothership has 350 health and 350 shields. I asked which unit had the most health and the mothership has only 350 health, not 700.


Meh, technically you're wrong. According to Liquipedia, it's called "hitpoints" and plasma shields, not "health" and plasma shields.

You're making a trick question and it kind of backfired.

Mothership: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mothership_(Wings_of_Liberty)

Hitpoints (not "health", per se): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/index.php?title=File:Icon_Hitpoints.png&filetimestamp=20100213175646

Furthermore, if you look here: "Terran SCVs have 5 more health than the other workers" ~http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SCV then this implies that plasma shields are included in the overall health sum of a unit. Hitpoints + plasma shields = health for a unit.

So fix #5 please. Motherships have 700 health: 350 hitpoints + 350 plasma shields.


I think that's stupid. It's his quiz, he doesn't have to fix it, so please stop being so demanding. Also I agree with him, mothership has 350hp just as archon has 10hp. Every caster says archon's have 10hp and 350shield. hp = health points = health.

Anyways, enjoy the quiz, and don't argue stupid shit. -.-


I think you misunderstand hit points (not health points... what?) and plasma shields. And that's fine, you can call them whatever you want colloquially, but when the title of the quiz is "You Don't Know SC2 Units", it's important he doesn't mess them up either. His wording was actually explicitly wrong. It wasn't really up for discussion. Health is hit points + shields. Total life of a unit. Him not changing it would mean that the question would remain incorrect, as I showed via Liquipedia. There's a difference between making a tricky question, and making a question that actually uses the wrong terminology. And he happily fixed the question, so there's not really any point in whining about people correcting questions (which is justified and happens every time someone comes up with a quiz like this).
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
December 18 2012 19:25 GMT
#36
On December 19 2012 04:03 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
Ideas:
Which unit has the most dps/cost (gas=x2 minerals)
a)zergling
b)marine
c)baneling
d)reaper
answer:+ Show Spoiler +
baneling,0 cooldown+27 average damage means that it has infinite dps.


Technically, you could give them a cooldown of the delay of your monitor, so something like 2-30ms, since they don't blow up in the instant that they hit the unit, but rather in the frame after.

And actually, it would have undefined DPS, not infinite. ^.^

Unless you wanted to take the limit of the DPS, THEN it would be infiinty.
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Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
December 18 2012 19:25 GMT
#37
On December 19 2012 04:06 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:02 Cuce wrote:
thor gets +6 dmg per upg and higher than dark templar,


This is incorrect, but you are within the right thinking. When thors get +1 they get an additional 3 damage added to their attacks. They attack in a 2 part series which means in the course of both attacks (which happen very quickly) it is an additional 6 damage.

Check out more info on the Thor


If I'm not mistaken doesn't an immortal get +5 per attack upgrade as well?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
December 18 2012 19:26 GMT
#38
On December 19 2012 04:13 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 03:56 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
5 is wrong MS has 700.
3 wrong, make some harder ones!


5 is correct and 3 is correct.

If his question were worded combined health and shields then you would be correct.


What he was saying was that health generally refers to eHP in sc2, not HP, they worked it out though so it's irrelevant.

Also he's saying he got 3 questions wrong, not that number three was wrong.


That was fun OP, most the questions I got right were either ones you could reason your way to our gut feelings when I knew it was one of two answers. Surprisingly I missed the most zerg ones despite playing Zerg. Thanks.
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 18 2012 19:27 GMT
#39
On December 19 2012 04:25 Tao367 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:06 Butterednuts wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:02 Cuce wrote:
thor gets +6 dmg per upg and higher than dark templar,


This is incorrect, but you are within the right thinking. When thors get +1 they get an additional 3 damage added to their attacks. They attack in a 2 part series which means in the course of both attacks (which happen very quickly) it is an additional 6 damage.

Check out more info on the Thor


If I'm not mistaken doesn't an immortal get +5 per attack upgrade as well?


The (Wiki)Immortal gets +2 to it's ground attack when upgrade with +1 Weapons upgrade. If it is dealing damage to Armored units, then it is +3.
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Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
December 18 2012 19:29 GMT
#40
On December 19 2012 04:27 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:25 Tao367 wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:06 Butterednuts wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:02 Cuce wrote:
thor gets +6 dmg per upg and higher than dark templar,


This is incorrect, but you are within the right thinking. When thors get +1 they get an additional 3 damage added to their attacks. They attack in a 2 part series which means in the course of both attacks (which happen very quickly) it is an additional 6 damage.

Check out more info on the Thor


If I'm not mistaken doesn't an immortal get +5 per attack upgrade as well?


The (Wiki)Immortal gets +2 to it's ground attack when upgrade with +1 Weapons upgrade. If it is dealing damage to Armored units, then it is +3.


But damage vs armoured goes up from 50-55 for upgrade 1. So it increases in damage by 5.
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