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CJ Entus Update #1 [Dec. 14, 2012] - Page 3

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Exigaet
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada355 Posts
December 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#41
On December 14 2012 06:49 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:
On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote:
I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP.

They dont..

The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise.

EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up


Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP.


TvZ is ThorZaIN's self proclaimed worst matchup.


It may be his worst matchup, but I don't think he could have got a better map to play a TvZ on.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 13 2012 23:43 GMT
#42
On December 14 2012 08:02 Exigaet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 06:49 Whitewing wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:
On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote:
I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP.

They dont..

The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise.

EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up


Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP.


TvZ is ThorZaIN's self proclaimed worst matchup.


It may be his worst matchup, but I don't think he could have got a better map to play a TvZ on.

The thing is that the coaches are fully aware of what the maps look like. Songduri was also scheduled to play Arkanoid last week but the match didn't get to that game. So I have to imagine they've got something worked out and figure it's fine for ZvT, especially considering they could have played Skyhigh on that map if they really thought it was too good for Terran.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
December 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#43
On December 14 2012 08:43 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 08:02 Exigaet wrote:
On December 14 2012 06:49 Whitewing wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:
On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote:
I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP.

They dont..

The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise.

EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up


Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP.


TvZ is ThorZaIN's self proclaimed worst matchup.


It may be his worst matchup, but I don't think he could have got a better map to play a TvZ on.

The thing is that the coaches are fully aware of what the maps look like. Songduri was also scheduled to play Arkanoid last week but the match didn't get to that game. So I have to imagine they've got something worked out and figure it's fine for ZvT, especially considering they could have played Skyhigh on that map if they really thought it was too good for Terran.


Thing is, Kespa players seem to play completely differently from the other SC2 players, so they might both be right.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#44
On December 14 2012 08:48 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 08:43 Bibbit wrote:
On December 14 2012 08:02 Exigaet wrote:
On December 14 2012 06:49 Whitewing wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:
On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote:
I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP.

They dont..

The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise.

EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up


Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP.


TvZ is ThorZaIN's self proclaimed worst matchup.


It may be his worst matchup, but I don't think he could have got a better map to play a TvZ on.

The thing is that the coaches are fully aware of what the maps look like. Songduri was also scheduled to play Arkanoid last week but the match didn't get to that game. So I have to imagine they've got something worked out and figure it's fine for ZvT, especially considering they could have played Skyhigh on that map if they really thought it was too good for Terran.


Thing is, Kespa players seem to play completely differently from the other SC2 players, so they might both be right.

Fair point, we'll have to wait and see! Get hyped!
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
December 14 2012 00:05 GMT
#45
Didn't follow the BW scene, but my fantasy team consists almost only out of CJ Entus players and they seem to be doing good in SC2. I'm excited to see Songduri and Bong play this week.
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