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On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP. They dont.. The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise. EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up
Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP.
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On December 13 2012 17:31 iKill wrote: Okay, I'll weigh in a bit on Arkanoid and Zerg... Having never seen a zerg play on arkanoid, I have no idea how it's going to play out, but I'm inclined to believe that Zerg will opt for a fast 3hatch (for obvious reasons). From here it gets kinda weird - I suppose Z would favor mutalingbling due to the possibility of air harass (from both players - I can see ThorZaiN going for a fast 3CC with banshee), but the terran will likely opt for mech because of the map layout, which mutalingbling is horrible against. That might push Z towards roach infestor with drops, which is also very viable here if SonGDuri is inclined to harass.
However, ThorZaiN will undoubtedly be prepared for drops because of the map layout, so he might invest a bit more heavily into vikings + turrets + sensor towers. Copious sensor tower usage will likely dissuade SonGDuri from harassing too heavily, so he might try to lay back and turtle to infestor BL with roaches for support.
ThorZaiN will know that because of scouting, so he'll be inclined to do a pre-max push with tanks and thors. The question is, will SonGDuri be prepared? There's only 3 chokes to attack through. He'll be turtling.
Another option for ThorZaiN would be to go heavy bio and just abuse the shit out of drops, but that'll be hard because bio will push SonGDuri towards mutas, and there's not a terribly big base area to defend when you really look at the map. There has been one TvZ played on Arkanoid, though outside the regular Proleague season. KT and SKT had a pre-season series, and one of the matches happened to be Fantasy vs Crazy-Hydra on Arkanoid.
Here's the vod of the full event, with the Arkanoid match at approximately 123 minutes. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDgzNTMwNTAw.html
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On December 13 2012 17:52 Exigaet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP. They dont.. The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise. EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP. Not to mention HerO's performance as of late. My predictions; Bbyong > JaedongBong[S.G] < TaeJaherO[jOin] < HuKSonGDuri < ThorZaINHydra < HerOCJ Entus 1 < EG-TL 4 Woahh, and I hoped people learnt from last week's results. I mean, all the threads were full with EGTL 4-1ing KT and you see how that went.
I think only HerO will win for them, and it's 4-1for CJ.
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On December 13 2012 18:06 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 17:52 Exigaet wrote:On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP. They dont.. The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise. EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP. Not to mention HerO's performance as of late. My predictions; Bbyong > JaedongBong[S.G] < TaeJaherO[jOin] < HuKSonGDuri < ThorZaINHydra < HerOCJ Entus 1 < EG-TL 4 Woahh, and I hoped people learnt from last week's results. I mean, all the threads were full with EGTL 4-1ing KT and you see how that went. I think only HerO will win for them, and it's 4-1for CJ. If only Liquid`Hero will win it can't possibly be a 4-1. How would it get to the fifth game?
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On December 13 2012 18:06 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 17:52 Exigaet wrote:On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP. They dont.. The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise. EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP. Not to mention HerO's performance as of late. My predictions; Bbyong > JaedongBong[S.G] < TaeJaherO[jOin] < HuKSonGDuri < ThorZaINHydra < HerOCJ Entus 1 < EG-TL 4 Woahh, and I hoped people learnt from last week's results. I mean, all the threads were full with EGTL 4-1ing KT and you see how that went. I think only HerO will win for them, and it's 4-1for CJ.
Last week we had Zenio vs Flash (lol), Jaedong ZvP on Ohana (what?), JYP's megafuckup and a jetlagged ThorZaiN. This week we have Jaedong ZvT (slightly less lol), TaeJa TvP (gtfo kid), HuK PvP (meh I guess), ThorZaiN in form and in TvZ (hell yeah) and HerO (LOL GTFO CJ). Honestly I can see a 4-1 or 4-2 happening here.
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Even if it goes to a game 7 I don't think CJ Entus has someone that can take out either TaeJa or HerO in the ace match.
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Cool beans! Wish I wasn't as lazy so I could make this kind of thing for STX.
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On December 14 2012 05:10 Exigaet wrote: Even if it goes to a game 7 I don't think CJ Entus has someone that can take out either TaeJa or HerO in the ace match. Hero can take Hero (ya). I'm not saying he's favoured but he does have a very real chance. Taeja hasn't been super hot lately so I think CJ has plenty of opportunity to beat him. But yeah, I agree that EG-TL looks pretty darn good in an ace match here.
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well no more excuses after this one, hope for some epic games.
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On December 13 2012 18:06 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 17:52 Exigaet wrote:On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP. They dont.. The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise. EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP. Not to mention HerO's performance as of late. My predictions; Bbyong > JaedongBong[S.G] < TaeJaherO[jOin] < HuKSonGDuri < ThorZaINHydra < HerOCJ Entus 1 < EG-TL 4 Woahh, and I hoped people learnt from last week's results. I mean, all the threads were full with EGTL 4-1ing KT and you see how that went. I think only HerO will win for them, and it's 4-1for CJ. The thread was only full of 4-1, 4-2 until the people playing and the match-ups where announced. You could not have picked a weaker team and worst match-ups than the series against KT. Only JYP and Puma weren't placed in their worst match-up and Puma didn't even get to play. It's better this week even without Puma and Revival playing.
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Oh wow!! Tiger Toss retired D:... Not surprised though..he just never caught onto sc2 and hasnt looked great Like Movie, we'll likely see him in the Sonic Proleague very very soon.
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On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better chances in TvT or TvP. meh, tvz is hard for everyone - thorzain is sick at tvz. EDIT: sorry i diden't mean to whine about balance, i just think that tvz is hard in the current metagame - and alot of other people agrees with that.
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On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better chances in TvT or TvP.
They don't know that he'll be playing a Z ahead of time... they just assign him a map...
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Effort vs Zerg again... Well, at least it gives me some hope that JYP could win :D
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I kinda wish every team had that sort of thing. Dedicated team writers who wrote a weekly or fortnightly update for their team's results and news.
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On December 14 2012 05:22 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 05:10 Exigaet wrote: Even if it goes to a game 7 I don't think CJ Entus has someone that can take out either TaeJa or HerO in the ace match. Hero can take Hero (ya). I'm not saying he's favoured but he does have a very real chance. Taeja hasn't been super hot lately so I think CJ has plenty of opportunity to beat him. But yeah, I agree that EG-TL looks pretty darn good in an ace match here.
Ah yes, good point. HerO's PvP is much weaker than herO's PvP so far.
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On December 13 2012 17:40 iKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 17:37 LeLfe wrote:On December 13 2012 17:12 Brett wrote:On December 13 2012 16:51 ne0lith wrote: I don't know why they keep making Thorzain play what seems to be his worst matchup, I'm his biggest fan but I think he has better changes in TvT or TvP. They dont.. The picks for each map are 'blind'; that is, they don't know who their opponent will send out on that particular map until they themselves have chosen and submitted their player. Then all matchups are released to both teams at the same time and they have time to prepare for the matches, and to consider who they will employ as their ace should the need arise. EG has been pretty unlucky with picks so far, nearly all the players get their worst match-up Eh I don't know, ThorZaiN is pretty good at TvZ, HuK is pretty good at PvP and TaeJa is still frightening in TvP.
TvZ is ThorZaIN's self proclaimed worst matchup.
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