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KeSPA response to EN broadcast + PL on Twitch.TV - Page 4

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geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
December 07 2012 08:39 GMT
#61
I'm not sure what in this release contradicts what DoA said? All he said was that negotiations between Kespa and OGN were going poorly, and as a result, OGN would not be delivering an English language cast of the opening matches of proleage.

This Kespa statement doesn't conflict with that at all... OGN is still handling production for their matches and providing a feed of that to IEG, whom Kespa is using to provide their own English language broadcast that they are attempting to put together. Sounds like exactly what DoA claimed?
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
December 07 2012 08:39 GMT
#62
On December 07 2012 17:35 rasers wrote:
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On December 07 2012 17:34 munchmunch wrote:
DoA had already announced to the community that he would be casting games. So I think he was right to let us know why, from his perspective, that wouldn't be happening. But even if he was just a drama queen, I hope Kespa will learn a lesson from this. If you don't provide clear information to the community, then you are very vulnerable to rumours and misinformation being spread. A commitment to providing an english stream, and the location of the stream URL, should have been announced by Kespa a week ago.

Atleast i hope DoA will learn a lesson from his. if you don't have all the information u stfu and don't spread rumours.
Even if he had just said what he knew ("Sorry guys, I was premature, I won't be casting games, negotiations are ongoing"), the rumours and speculation would have spread anyway. In fact, that is pretty much all he said... he just included his own personal disappointment in his writeup.
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
December 07 2012 08:39 GMT
#63
On December 07 2012 17:38 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
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On December 07 2012 17:35 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:34 munchmunch wrote:
DoA had already announced to the community that he would be casting games. So I think he was right to let us know why, from his perspective, that wouldn't be happening. But even if he was just a drama queen, I hope Kespa will learn a lesson from this. If you don't provide clear information to the community, then you are very vulnerable to rumours and misinformation being spread. A commitment to providing an english stream, and the location of the stream URL, should have been announced by Kespa a week ago.

Atleast i hope DoA will learn a lesson from his. if you don't have all the information u stfu and don't spread rumours.


The fact that his post, accurate or not, was credible speaks volumes about the credibility and attitude of KeSPA with regards to foreign fans. Can you imagine Tasteless accusing GOM of dumping English casts and it getting any traction at all? Of course not, because GOM is open and reaches out to foreign fans, and thus has their trust and does well by them.

Ofcourse. cause GOM needs foreigners. or they go doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooown.
SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
December 07 2012 08:40 GMT
#64
so the only thing they are saying is that they are "planning an englisch broadcast" - not one word about when or if it will actually happen..
oh, and they insult Doa.. f****** arrogant pricks
jimbob615
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Uruguay455 Posts
December 07 2012 08:40 GMT
#65
On December 07 2012 17:29 opterown wrote:
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On December 07 2012 17:28 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:26 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:25 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:24 Ruscour wrote:
I hope they aren't hard on DoA for this, he was only doing right by the English community, something KeSPA/OGN/IEG/whoever don't have a clue how to do.

you mean he was talking bullshit and didn't know what was going on? and just made this thread cause he was mad for some reason?


He was mad because there isn't going to be an english broadcast and he wanted to let everyone know.

and tell people to boycott the league and stuff. nice guy.

your reading skills are not very good, he never said that

well... it's pretty easy to read between the lines that he did say that, albeit in a passive-aggressive way.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:41:16
December 07 2012 08:40 GMT
#66
On December 07 2012 17:35 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:34 munchmunch wrote:
DoA had already announced to the community that he would be casting games. So I think he was right to let us know why, from his perspective, that wouldn't be happening. But even if he was just a drama queen, I hope Kespa will learn a lesson from this. If you don't provide clear information to the community, then you are very vulnerable to rumours and misinformation being spread. A commitment to providing an english stream, and the location of the stream URL, should have been announced by Kespa a week ago.

Atleast i hope DoA will learn a lesson from his. if you don't have all the information u stfu and don't spread rumours.

He very well MAY have had all the information (from OGN's point of view, as of the time of that meeting). At the very least, the main gist of his post is still true. OGN will NOT be providing English commentary + stream.

Some people may have taken his thread to mean that there wouldn't be any English cast at all for Proleague, but he did not actually say that. In fact, his title clearly said "No English OGN broadcast for SK Planet Proleague", but it's understandable that many could have just assumed that meant no English broadcast, period.

But at the moment, that was all we were guaranteed, because Kespa has only NOW started to say something about English commentary + stream for Proleague.

Anyways, I'm still pretty sketched out by Kespa. Their reputation + this whole kerfuffle suggests to me that we should be wary that they're up to their "old ways". Just my gut/emotional response, anyways
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 07 2012 08:41 GMT
#67
Haha! DoA getting burned XD

Glad KESPA didn't come off to badly on this though, and are working to deliver to us what we want! EG-TL Fighting
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Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
December 07 2012 08:42 GMT
#68
On December 07 2012 17:25 Soulrivers wrote:
In light of this news, DoA was way too quick to write up that dooms-day post. He probably should have waited it out a bit more before drawing drastic conclusions.


I don't fault DoA for posting what he did. Wait? Until when? It's not like Proleague's start is in a week or something, it's tomorrow. For stuff like this to still be totally up in the air at this juncture with such little information available is horribly unprofessional. If anything, we finally got something concrete due to the controversy and outrage that topic caused.
k3n705
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada134 Posts
December 07 2012 08:43 GMT
#69
DoA vs. KeSPA turns out to be more entertaining than Proleague itself. :o
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 07 2012 08:43 GMT
#70
Who is even in Korea who doesn't work for Gom/OGN that has any idea about sc2?
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
December 07 2012 08:43 GMT
#71
On December 07 2012 17:41 Pandemona wrote:
Haha! DoA getting burned XD

Glad KESPA didn't come off to badly on this though, and are working to deliver to us what we want! EG-TL Fighting

Are you sure? From what it looks like, OGN was slated to provide the English commentary all along, and as of about 48 hours before the first match, Kespa looks to have completely altered the terms of their understanding because it wants to go with its own "IEG" broadcasting group solution.

It reminds me Darth Vader's comment to Lando Calrissian in The Empire Strikes Back: "I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it further."

(unnecessarily dramatic, but when a great Star Wars reference comes to mind, you've gotta use it!)
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andyf
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:44:16
December 07 2012 08:43 GMT
#72
Can someone link what DoA actually posted before his edit ?

e - sorry, not link, paste - seeing as he edited his original post
what up
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
December 07 2012 08:44 GMT
#73
TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet

No word on who the casters will be. Though, think about who in Korea can cast in English on short notice, and you have a pretty good ide..


At least KeSPA seems to be responding seriously to the situation. I guess.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:49:24
December 07 2012 08:44 GMT
#74
What would OGN hope to gain for forcing KeSPA to abandon their (original) english casting O_o

Does OGN suddenly hate them and want them to fail or something?

Also yeah, KeSPA's response to DoA made me laugh. Even if he was pretty stupid doing it, and unprofessional, they underestimate the community a bit on that one.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 07 2012 08:45 GMT
#75
On December 07 2012 17:40 jimbob615 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:29 opterown wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:28 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:26 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:25 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:24 Ruscour wrote:
I hope they aren't hard on DoA for this, he was only doing right by the English community, something KeSPA/OGN/IEG/whoever don't have a clue how to do.

you mean he was talking bullshit and didn't know what was going on? and just made this thread cause he was mad for some reason?


He was mad because there isn't going to be an english broadcast and he wanted to let everyone know.

and tell people to boycott the league and stuff. nice guy.

your reading skills are not very good, he never said that

well... it's pretty easy to read between the lines that he did say that, albeit in a passive-aggressive way.


Are you shitting me? You "read between the lines that he did say that"? And you don't even provide a source of these allegations?
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
December 07 2012 08:45 GMT
#76
SUCCESS
Know thyself.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
December 07 2012 08:46 GMT
#77
horay for english
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
December 07 2012 08:46 GMT
#78
OnGameNet caster DoA, who wrote a distorted, easily misunderstood post based on one-sided misinformation, has apologized for has made a correction. The association plans to immediately respond to the spread of baseless rumors rooted in distorted information.


Can anyone explain what this is referring to? Nothing they have in their release contradicts what he said as far as I can tell, they just seem to be mad that he aired dirty laundry from private negotiations. You can't blame him though, he's the one suffering from prolonged negotiations that cause him to be out of a casting gig... especially if the reason for the problems is as he says (KeSPA planted third caster and them trying to set up their own English production to simulcast separate from OGN's).
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
December 07 2012 08:47 GMT
#79
On December 07 2012 17:45 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:40 jimbob615 wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:29 opterown wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:28 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:26 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:25 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:24 Ruscour wrote:
I hope they aren't hard on DoA for this, he was only doing right by the English community, something KeSPA/OGN/IEG/whoever don't have a clue how to do.

you mean he was talking bullshit and didn't know what was going on? and just made this thread cause he was mad for some reason?


He was mad because there isn't going to be an english broadcast and he wanted to let everyone know.

and tell people to boycott the league and stuff. nice guy.

your reading skills are not very good, he never said that

well... it's pretty easy to read between the lines that he did say that, albeit in a passive-aggressive way.


Are you shitting me? You "read between the lines that he did say that"? And you don't even provide a source of these allegations?

source got edited away.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 07 2012 08:48 GMT
#80
Bring on the games.

John solo cast pls.
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