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KeSPA response to EN broadcast + PL on Twitch.TV - Page 3

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TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:31:01
December 07 2012 08:30 GMT
#41
On December 07 2012 17:28 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:26 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:25 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:24 Ruscour wrote:
I hope they aren't hard on DoA for this, he was only doing right by the English community, something KeSPA/OGN/IEG/whoever don't have a clue how to do.

you mean he was talking bullshit and didn't know what was going on? and just made this thread cause he was mad for some reason?


He was mad because there isn't going to be an english broadcast and he wanted to let everyone know.

and tell people to boycott the league and stuff. nice guy.



Proove that he said that. Now.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 07 2012 08:31 GMT
#42
Who/what is IEG?
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
December 07 2012 08:31 GMT
#43
On December 07 2012 17:30 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:28 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:26 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:25 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:24 Ruscour wrote:
I hope they aren't hard on DoA for this, he was only doing right by the English community, something KeSPA/OGN/IEG/whoever don't have a clue how to do.

you mean he was talking bullshit and didn't know what was going on? and just made this thread cause he was mad for some reason?


He was mad because there isn't going to be an english broadcast and he wanted to let everyone know.

and tell people to boycott the league and stuff. nice guy.



Proove that he said that. Now.

build a time machine and i will
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
December 07 2012 08:32 GMT
#44
So will there be VODs on Twitch for now? Or no VODs at all until they get the Youtube channel going?
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Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
December 07 2012 08:32 GMT
#45
On December 07 2012 17:31 red4ce wrote:
Who/what is IEG?


The company that owns SPOTV, which will split the broadcasting duties with OGN (weekdays only for SPOTV iirc).
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
December 07 2012 08:32 GMT
#46
On December 07 2012 17:31 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:30 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:28 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:26 TiTanIum_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:25 rasers wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:24 Ruscour wrote:
I hope they aren't hard on DoA for this, he was only doing right by the English community, something KeSPA/OGN/IEG/whoever don't have a clue how to do.

you mean he was talking bullshit and didn't know what was going on? and just made this thread cause he was mad for some reason?


He was mad because there isn't going to be an english broadcast and he wanted to let everyone know.

and tell people to boycott the league and stuff. nice guy.



Proove that he said that. Now.

build a time machine and i will

He never told anyone to boycott. If anything, he told everyone NOT to boycott it. Doa is not that stupid.
Jaedong plz
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
December 07 2012 08:33 GMT
#47
Ugh, Kespa sounds like that Iraqi minister of information that made these crazy propaganda broadcasts during the US invasion 10 years ago.

In the end, for all their talking and bitching at DoA, they never once said that there will be an English stream for the opening round of the PL. Nor any timeline as to when they may get their English stream up.
Such flammable little insects!
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
December 07 2012 08:34 GMT
#48
This is just incredibly awesome, i cant help it but feel a little overwhelmed with so many GREAT news this week. THIS IS GREAT NEWS GUYS. Such an awesome Xmas gift. THANK YOU e-SPORTS.
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munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
December 07 2012 08:34 GMT
#49
DoA had already announced to the community that he would be casting games. So I think he was right to let us know why, from his perspective, that wouldn't be happening. But even if he was just a drama queen, I hope Kespa will learn a lesson from this. If you don't provide clear information to the community, then you are very vulnerable to rumours and misinformation being spread. A commitment to providing an english stream, and the location of the stream URL, should have been announced by Kespa a week ago.
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
December 07 2012 08:35 GMT
#50
On December 07 2012 17:34 munchmunch wrote:
DoA had already announced to the community that he would be casting games. So I think he was right to let us know why, from his perspective, that wouldn't be happening. But even if he was just a drama queen, I hope Kespa will learn a lesson from this. If you don't provide clear information to the community, then you are very vulnerable to rumours and misinformation being spread. A commitment to providing an english stream, and the location of the stream URL, should have been announced by Kespa a week ago.

Atleast i hope DoA will learn a lesson from his. if you don't have all the information u stfu and don't spread rumours.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
December 07 2012 08:36 GMT
#51
Let's be realistic, guys. The people that would boycott Proleague because of this represent a very very small percentage of the viewing population, so that really shouldn't be an issue. However, there will be people that will certainly not watch the games without an English commentary, but I don't see that as boycotting, simply prioritizing their viewing by watching other events.
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:37:22
December 07 2012 08:36 GMT
#52
On December 07 2012 17:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Update: KeSPA source confirms there WILL be English commentary for opening day matches.

Source: KeSPA

<snip>
KeSPA's official response to misinformation posted on TeamLiquid

Until a final agreement has been reached, OnGameNet's stance is that it will not broadcast in English during the weekend games of Proleague, and will only provide a clean feed of Proleague to IEG, the delivery agency.
<snip>


So basically, OGN wont be doing english production, but will feed IEG with video (without korean commentary) so IEG can do live English commentary on top of it. The english casters just wont be physically in the TV studio with the crowd and players.

Am i understanding this correctly?
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
December 07 2012 08:36 GMT
#53
poor DOA oh well at least we got there view on this and hope that they get this fixed so we have english to listen to
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
December 07 2012 08:36 GMT
#54
What about VODs?
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
December 07 2012 08:37 GMT
#55
People, don't suddenly start attacking DoA just because KeSPA says he's wrong. The real truth is almost certainly somewhere between the two statements, and it seems pretty obvious at this point that there's some tension between KeSPA and OGN.
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Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 07 2012 08:37 GMT
#56
On December 07 2012 17:25 Soulrivers wrote:
In light of this news, DoA was way too quick to write up that dooms-day post. He probably should have waited it out a bit more before drawing drastic conclusions.


I wouldn't say it was a doomsday post.

Destiny wrote a doomsday post.

Doa didn't write a doomsday post.
WhatsInAName
Profile Joined November 2012
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:40:10
December 07 2012 08:37 GMT
#57
I'm sure I could benefit from more information, as we all could, but here is the thing. People want to see this more than any other thing in SC2. It's huge. EG-TL in proleague? It's begging an english commentary. They're shooting their own feet and losing a big audience.

Reminds of the Los Angeles international airport (LAX) workers union protesting on thanksgiving holidays. Who is really going to sympathize with that, when it causes delays and cancellations, only for some employee benefits that can be worked out at a later time.

Or the musician's union of Los Angeles who stubbornly tossing away studio gigs for every video game produced in this town because of an absolute refusal to reconsider back-end deals with video game companies (union doesn't compromise and thus starves and chokes itself).

It's just stubbornness. We don't care about care about perfect contracts and agreements. We just want to see a damn English stream with high level casting. And if we as an audience matter, then go out of the way to make a USEABLE agreement FOR NOW and fix it in the future.

PRACTICALITY is most important. If you stall things out forever, you will simply never accomplish anything and just waste a lot of money, like the U.S. government. I hope someone steps up to the plate and accommodates what will be a substantial audience.

EDIT: Because of the update, it appears someone stepped up to the plate. Hopefully it is more than just opening day.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
December 07 2012 08:38 GMT
#58
On December 07 2012 17:36 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Update: KeSPA source confirms there WILL be English commentary for opening day matches.

Source: KeSPA


<snip>
KeSPA's official response to misinformation posted on TeamLiquid

Until a final agreement has been reached, OnGameNet's stance is that it will not broadcast in English during the weekend games of Proleague, and will only provide a clean feed of Proleague to IEG, the delivery agency.
<snip>


So basically, OGN wont be doing english production, but will feed IEG with video (without korean commentary) so IEG can do live English commentary on top of it. The english casters just wont be physically in the TV studio with the crowd and players.

Am i understanding this correctly?


It seems that is an option, but certainly nothing is guaranteed as of now. This response by KeSPA basically seems like a rebuke of Doa's previous announcement.
Boiler Bandsman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States391 Posts
December 07 2012 08:38 GMT
#59
On December 07 2012 17:35 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:34 munchmunch wrote:
DoA had already announced to the community that he would be casting games. So I think he was right to let us know why, from his perspective, that wouldn't be happening. But even if he was just a drama queen, I hope Kespa will learn a lesson from this. If you don't provide clear information to the community, then you are very vulnerable to rumours and misinformation being spread. A commitment to providing an english stream, and the location of the stream URL, should have been announced by Kespa a week ago.

Atleast i hope DoA will learn a lesson from his. if you don't have all the information u stfu and don't spread rumours.


The fact that his post, accurate or not, was credible speaks volumes about the credibility and attitude of KeSPA with regards to foreign fans. Can you imagine Tasteless accusing GOM of dumping English casts and it getting any traction at all? Of course not, because GOM is open and reaches out to foreign fans, and thus has their trust and does well by them.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:39:47
December 07 2012 08:39 GMT
#60
On December 07 2012 17:36 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Update: KeSPA source confirms there WILL be English commentary for opening day matches.

Source: KeSPA


KeSPA's official response to misinformation posted on TeamLiquid

Until a final agreement has been reached, OnGameNet's stance is that it will not broadcast in English during the weekend games of Proleague, and will only provide a clean feed of Proleague to IEG, the delivery agency.



So basically, OGN wont be doing english production, but will feed IEG with video (without korean commentary) so IEG can do live English commentary on top of it. The english casters just wont be physically in the TV studio with the crowd and players.

Am i understanding this correctly?


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