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Lings of Liberty: The Rise of the Patchzergs - Page 3

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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
December 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#41
Fun read. Now onto the balance flamewar.
11 years and counting- TL #680
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
December 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#42
looks good, save for read later
PackAttack
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
December 03 2012 19:21 GMT
#43
Thankfully Blizzard actually is planning on nerfing infestors heavily while buffing other zerg units. I am really hopeful for HoTS.

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5966979955
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#44
On December 04 2012 04:15 foxj wrote:
best thread ever


+ Show Spoiler +
Who is the girl next to Stephano in that picture? D:


soe penski-gschwind, does a lot of e-sports content in germany. american roots i believe
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
December 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#45
Seems to me DK read this, and immediatly posted on the battle.net forums: Saying chill out guy's i got this.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 19:36:53
December 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#46
well i havent played for a long while, but it does seem like the patch-zerg phenomena is real enough. Not sure what's the answer for it though, if they nerf the infestor Zerg would have no chance against Protoss deathballs. IIRC that was the very reason they buffed it in the first place.

Also, addressing the last part, what u write is ridiculous, but the facts u base it on are clear. Fans want to see storylines and heroes.
EDIT: i might have been trolled, or failed to catch the sarcasm of the whole blizzard-rigged-the-game. I'm still unsure.
On a second read, yeah, failed to catch the joke.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
December 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#47
I already told Ver that probably only a very small fraction of people reading it will actually get it.
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
December 03 2012 19:23 GMT
#48
Biased, but overall interesting and well written.

Connecting "fungal is good" with decreasing viewership is really funny though :D. You would probably see no difference in numbers of viewers if ZvT were perfectly balanced around muta/ling/bling. Just people not watching game when it gets older and people switching to moba.

Saying fungal is boring in ZvZ is your just opinion. Inf/brood vs Inf/brood looks fine to me too.
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 19:25:19
December 03 2012 19:23 GMT
#49
The first part of this post is pretty good. But making statements like:
Blizzard purposefully rigged the game to ensure the maximum number of white victories over Koreans

is absolutely ridiculous, and honestly, pretty dumb, if you can't provide any actual evidence for it. I assume you weren't completely serious, but that doesn't change it a single bit.

I do fully agree however, that the game was a lot more enjoyable as a spectator in the second half of 2011. May HotS save us all.
Random master race
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
December 03 2012 19:24 GMT
#50
i say we just remove the zerg race from the game. simple as that. at least then i'll stop seeing "omg Z is..." threads.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
December 03 2012 19:24 GMT
#51
at first I thought this was a rage thread, then realized there were actually statistics and logic. I really don't think Blizzard is conspiring about white man winning.
Lil' Joey, Master of the A-Move Stalker Strike Force
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 03 2012 19:25 GMT
#52
Hahaha i dont agree with everything here but telling everyone the cold hard truth like this is refreshing. It explains the ghost nerf perfectly
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
December 03 2012 19:25 GMT
#53
hmmm... Ver seems kinda mad about something. i can't tell what though.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 03 2012 19:26 GMT
#54
my brain hurts from the amount of people that don't get it /o\
@KawaiiRiceLighT
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
December 03 2012 19:26 GMT
#55
I really can't tell if Ver is being serious -.-
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 03 2012 19:26 GMT
#56
I read the whole thing. It all makes sense now, how could we have been so blind.

Those graphs are great by the way.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 19:27:44
December 03 2012 19:26 GMT
#57
On December 04 2012 04:22 monk. wrote:
I already told Ver that probably only a very small fraction of people reading it will actually get it.


Exactly my thoughts when I was reading, but I'm pretty sure he knew that from the start. Also makes the comments so much sweeter. *putsontinfoilhatandsitsbesidesver*

edit: how is that report for racism coming along?
11 years and counting- TL #680
lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
December 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#58
Very well written article ^_^ I can't wait to see what the future holds for balance. I remember in BW when Disruption Web lasted like 2 minutes hahaha.
SlayerS_BoxeR <3
snexwang
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia224 Posts
December 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#59
On December 04 2012 04:22 monk. wrote:
I already told Ver that probably only a very small fraction of people reading it will actually get it.
That's a good thing. While the OP itself is gold, the replies will make this thread diamonds.

Mother. Fucking. DIAMONDS.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 19:27:47
December 03 2012 19:27 GMT
#60
This has taken the place of my favourite thread on Team Liquid.

I enjoyed reading that OP immensely.

How to make epic threads legendary:
On December 04 2012 04:22 monk. wrote:
I already told Ver that probably only a very small fraction of people reading it will actually get it.

SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
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