• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:51
CEST 22:51
KST 05:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down10ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League54Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.166
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? Bot on ladder [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Sagi.gg Launcher Released Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group Stage KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7524 users

[Interview] Code S Semi Finals 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 16 Next All
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
December 01 2012 17:06 GMT
#201
On December 02 2012 02:03 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:58 jj33 wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:55 yoshi245 wrote:
On December 01 2012 19:42 padfoota wrote:
After what he did to slayers I was already not a fan of Snipers, plus hes zerg.

Now he calls ryung no skill. Sure, ryung had some weird builds in there, but really?

Wheres the Sniper anti-fan club


I feel the same, I was impressed with Sniper, but his comments made him a douchebag imo. I hope Hyun crushes his ass 4-0.



He answered the way he did, because of what Ryung did...

Sniper has worked his ass off to get to where he is and for someone to do what ryung did is just flatout annoying and disrespectful.


Then he should have made his response specific to Ryung only.


Should have but he was venting in the context of the question.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 01 2012 17:08 GMT
#202
Haha Sniper, has he ever wondered why his own MVP team Terran players also haven't have any results? I guess they are just lazy bunch too.

Ollie
Profile Joined October 2011
United States144 Posts
December 01 2012 17:10 GMT
#203
You should all be ashamed of yourself. Ryung played really bad in that last game, forgetting Siege mode and making a lot of other mistakes. Sniper has worked his ass off to get where he is now, and Ryung COMPLETELY discredited his win by what he did in a live premiere tournament. Do you have any idea how that would feel? All of a sudden, all of Sniper's work means nothing, and he only won because Zerg is imbalanced. He must have felt terrible after that game. Don't act like Ryung is a hero speaking the truth while Sniper is some cocky kid that needs to be put in his place. They both made controversial comments, and they both handled it very poorly.

As a community, though, we need to stop being so judgemental over a player's actions, and instead focus on how well they play the game. Sniper is a player that has excellent mechanics and was praised by his teammates for a long time. Remember in his PvZs, when he would show excellent micro from his Roaches and Zerglings baiting forcefields in order to stop the Sentry/Immortal all-in? That has nothing to do with Infestors/Broodlords or even Queens for that matter. Get a hold of yourself and stop saying that Sniper was a no talent punk before the Queen patch. He will be around after Zerg is nerfed into the ground, because he's a GOOD player. And you know what? So will Ryung, because he's a GOOD player.
Oz | HerO | Creator | Stork | DRG | Soulkey | Jaedong | Sniper | Byun | TaeJa | Fantasy
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
December 01 2012 17:12 GMT
#204
Here are two additional interviews I did with Sniper and Hyun before tomorrow's final:

Sniper on beating Ryung, his imba comments at the end, and playing HyuN in the GSL Code S Finals: "I'm confident in my ZvZ"



HyuN on beating Innovtation, and a ZvZ final against HyuN:

Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
December 01 2012 17:12 GMT
#205
I was pretty neutral towards both Hyun and Sniper before reading this, but now want nothing more than for Hyun to absolutely crush Sniper. Not even entertaining games. Just pure carnage.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
December 01 2012 17:13 GMT
#206
On December 02 2012 01:55 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 19:42 padfoota wrote:
After what he did to slayers I was already not a fan of Snipers, plus hes zerg.

Now he calls ryung no skill. Sure, ryung had some weird builds in there, but really?

Wheres the Sniper anti-fan club


I feel the same, I was impressed with Sniper, but his comments made him a douchebag imo. I hope Hyun crushes his ass 4-0.

What? oO How would you feel when you just made it to the fucking GSL finals as a 17year old kid and in the moment of glory someone basicly tells you infront of thousands of people that you only won because the race you play has an edge right now? People always complain about Koreans being boring robots(which is ridiculously stupid) and now that this kid showed some actual emotion after being bm'ed incredibly hard, he gets all the hate in the world for it. This community really can't get any worse.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 17:18:51
December 01 2012 17:14 GMT
#207
ryung was bm, sniper counters with more bm, and that is about it, i know it is frustrating, but each and every zerg that is doing well now (and has not been before the patches / metashift) will get less aknowledgement than usual.

edit: look the later interview with slasher he is much more composed, so just relax and dont hate either player.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 01 2012 17:16 GMT
#208
People are just looking for an excuse to hate. Sniper had every right to say what he said.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
December 01 2012 17:17 GMT
#209
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
December 01 2012 17:19 GMT
#210
HAHA sniper so bold. People already hated him before this interview, now its just getting worse. If he only knew how huge his anti-fan base is lol Although im not sure how serious ryung was about this imba imba imba, might as well have been only half-serious
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 01 2012 17:22 GMT
#211
On December 02 2012 02:03 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:58 jj33 wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:55 yoshi245 wrote:
On December 01 2012 19:42 padfoota wrote:
After what he did to slayers I was already not a fan of Snipers, plus hes zerg.

Now he calls ryung no skill. Sure, ryung had some weird builds in there, but really?

Wheres the Sniper anti-fan club


I feel the same, I was impressed with Sniper, but his comments made him a douchebag imo. I hope Hyun crushes his ass 4-0.



He answered the way he did, because of what Ryung did...

Sniper has worked his ass off to get to where he is and for someone to do what ryung did is just flatout annoying and disrespectful.


Then he should have made his response specific to Ryung only.



It kind of was, since he's speaking about him obviously.

jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 01 2012 17:22 GMT
#212
On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm.



i agree, the hypocrisy is just ridiculous.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 17:33:35
December 01 2012 17:32 GMT
#213
On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm.

Between 2 BMer, the one that still state the "fact" usually has more support. Everybody knows the state of TvZ right now, you have one person whole BM the race IMBA IMBA, and you have a person who BM the race players having no skills. It's normal that people like Ryung more, it's not like TvZ is in T favor anyway.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
December 01 2012 17:33 GMT
#214
On December 02 2012 02:22 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm.



i agree, the hypocrisy is just ridiculous.


Yeah, because, as we all know, Sniper has worked really hard just as long as Ryung has and was a good, well-known player before zerg got buffed...
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
December 01 2012 17:38 GMT
#215
Really don't get how Sniper is the bad guy here... He was obviously pissed at Ryung for good reason and just said what was on his mind, instead of dodging the question like most Koreans would do. He also seems fed up with all the Terran qq nowadays detracting from his success. Also he didn't abuse the BL/Infestor/Corruptor to win either, he capitalized on the many mistakes of Ryung.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 17:41:29
December 01 2012 17:40 GMT
#216
On December 02 2012 02:33 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 02:22 jj33 wrote:
On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm.



i agree, the hypocrisy is just ridiculous.


Yeah, because, as we all know, Sniper has worked really hard just as long as Ryung has and was a good, well-known player before zerg got buffed...

Wtf is wrong with you? You want the community to never accept new zergs now because they had no success before the patch? Sorry for all the Jaedong fans - even when he finds success now he will just be a patchzerg. Oh and Life is a patchzerg too? That's interesting.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Ollie
Profile Joined October 2011
United States144 Posts
December 01 2012 17:41 GMT
#217
On December 02 2012 02:33 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 02:22 jj33 wrote:
On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm.



i agree, the hypocrisy is just ridiculous.


Yeah, because, as we all know, Sniper has worked really hard just as long as Ryung has and was a good, well-known player before zerg got buffed...


First off, Sniper has been working hard for a very long time. Second, most of the Zergs that are winning nowadays started to get popular AFTER the buff. Life, Symbol, Hyun, Sniper, and Violet pretty much all came after the buff. While Leenock is still relevant and is still very good, you hardly see DongRaeGu, NesTea, July, LosirA, Zenio, or most of the other pre-buff Zergs winning much anymore. This doesn't have anything to do with the buff, though. This has to do with the way the game works. Starcraft in a competitive sense is extremely volatile. Not only could you do the same with Terrans and protoss, but Brood War was the exact same way.
Oz | HerO | Creator | Stork | DRG | Soulkey | Jaedong | Sniper | Byun | TaeJa | Fantasy
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
December 01 2012 17:42 GMT
#218
On December 02 2012 02:33 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 02:22 jj33 wrote:
On December 02 2012 02:17 mango_destroyer wrote:
Ryung BMs and it is all okay with the majority of the community, but when Sniper calls Ryung out on his whine, he is a douchebag....hmmmm.



i agree, the hypocrisy is just ridiculous.


Yeah, because, as we all know, Sniper has worked really hard just as long as Ryung has and was a good, well-known player before zerg got buffed...


How do you know Sniper wasn't working hard last year? Breaking into Code A is hard as shit, so it took Sniper a couple tries but now he's upto to Code S and thats all that matters. Being well-known before the patch is necessary nowadays to be "legit"? The kid is only 17 give him a break.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
December 01 2012 17:46 GMT
#219
On December 02 2012 02:10 Ollie wrote:
You should all be ashamed of yourself. Ryung played really bad in that last game, forgetting Siege mode and making a lot of other mistakes. Sniper has worked his ass off to get where he is now, and Ryung COMPLETELY discredited his win by what he did in a live premiere tournament. Do you have any idea how that would feel? All of a sudden, all of Sniper's work means nothing, and he only won because Zerg is imbalanced. He must have felt terrible after that game. Don't act like Ryung is a hero speaking the truth while Sniper is some cocky kid that needs to be put in his place. They both made controversial comments, and they both handled it very poorly.

As a community, though, we need to stop being so judgemental over a player's actions, and instead focus on how well they play the game. Sniper is a player that has excellent mechanics and was praised by his teammates for a long time. Remember in his PvZs, when he would show excellent micro from his Roaches and Zerglings baiting forcefields in order to stop the Sentry/Immortal all-in? That has nothing to do with Infestors/Broodlords or even Queens for that matter. Get a hold of yourself and stop saying that Sniper was a no talent punk before the Queen patch. He will be around after Zerg is nerfed into the ground, because he's a GOOD player. And you know what? So will Ryung, because he's a GOOD player.

This a hundred times. To have your greatest achievement yet discredited in-game in front of a world audience would piss anyone off. I don't agree with Sniper's comments but I understand his anger. I also understand the frustration of the community, but to take it out on Sniper, wish for him to be crushed and hate him for one stupid comment makes me so happy that I'm not a progamer.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Shocae
Profile Joined August 2010
United States141 Posts
December 01 2012 17:47 GMT
#220
lol @ zerg defense mechanism
lolsamplesize
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 394
Liquid`TLO 169
JuggernautJason112
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17037
firebathero 329
ProTech214
910 33
Yoon 20
HiyA 14
Dota 2
syndereN414
monkeys_forever154
Counter-Strike
Fnx 801
kRYSTAL_41
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu872
Trikslyr52
Other Games
summit1g3560
Beastyqt914
FrodaN845
fl0m796
ToD291
C9.Mang0175
QueenE53
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3092
League of Legends
• Scarra628
Other Games
• imaqtpie942
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 9m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
14h 9m
Harstem vs Zoun
Harstem vs GgMaChine
GgMaChine vs Lambo
Harstem vs Lambo
GgMaChine vs Zoun
Lambo vs Zoun
OSC
17h 9m
Big Brain Bouts
19h 9m
FEL
1d 12h
Patches Events
1d 16h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 20h
FEL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-20
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.