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[Interview] Code S Semi Finals 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 10

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The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
December 01 2012 16:38 GMT
#181
On December 02 2012 01:30 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:27 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:22 forsooth wrote:
On December 02 2012 00:56 jj33 wrote:
nothing wrong with what sniper said. it's truth.

You all should be on ryung for being a crybaby.

Ryung is not that good.

Code S for ages vs Zerg who wasn't shit before the patch.

Who's got more credibility as a player? You decide.


I believe sniper was more of a teamleague player iirc and quoting about a "patch" that came out over 7 months ago and increased the queen range by 2...Something tells me sniper didn't beat ryung because of queens... nice try though

7 months ago sniper was a nobody.


Sniper is extremely young and extremely good. After they nerf infestors he's still going to be around.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 16:39:04
December 01 2012 16:38 GMT
#182
I ragequited the stream way before the IMBA IMBA (and having seen the screenshot, Ryung went really too far ><).
But that made me think about how zerg has been buffed for what, 18 months. 18 months during which no zerg ever used any infestors and claimed it was a bad unit. What I'm trying to say is that if you transpose modern zerg play and maps to old patches (no, not to reaper era), zerg will probably will be well balanced. Which means that Blizzard should never have patched the game after fixing the 5 rax reaper xD
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 01 2012 16:40 GMT
#183
On December 02 2012 01:38 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:30 aviator116 wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:27 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:22 forsooth wrote:
On December 02 2012 00:56 jj33 wrote:
nothing wrong with what sniper said. it's truth.

You all should be on ryung for being a crybaby.

Ryung is not that good.

Code S for ages vs Zerg who wasn't shit before the patch.

Who's got more credibility as a player? You decide.


I believe sniper was more of a teamleague player iirc and quoting about a "patch" that came out over 7 months ago and increased the queen range by 2...Something tells me sniper didn't beat ryung because of queens... nice try though

7 months ago sniper was a nobody.


Sniper is extremely young and extremely good. After they nerf infestors he's still going to be around.


infestor nerf? and what exactly will that be?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
December 01 2012 16:40 GMT
#184
For those defending Sniper, saying he is high end code s.
Yes he is in the finals right now. But if you look at how many seasons he's been in, he never really got far at all.
Thats not high end code s to me, if you are high end you end there consistenly.
Calling out Ryung as no skill - The guy has been in Ro4 twice, Ro8 twice, and generally been around in code s for longer time consistenly.
Sure it's an achievement making it to the finals, but that doesn't make you high end code s player - consistenly ending high up does. One good run doesn't make you high end.
To many variables included, to determine if you make it all the way - So you can't judge high end from a single run. At least i can, but you can feel free to think otherwise.
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
December 01 2012 16:42 GMT
#185
. I know that a lot of people are calling Zerg imba these days but I honestly just think it's an excuse for people with no skills


This is hilarious. I can't wait to see where both of these players will end up once the metagame shifts back to normal.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
December 01 2012 16:43 GMT
#186
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 01 2012 16:44 GMT
#187
On December 02 2012 01:30 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:27 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:22 forsooth wrote:
On December 02 2012 00:56 jj33 wrote:
nothing wrong with what sniper said. it's truth.

You all should be on ryung for being a crybaby.

Ryung is not that good.

Code S for ages vs Zerg who wasn't shit before the patch.

Who's got more credibility as a player? You decide.


I believe sniper was more of a teamleague player iirc and quoting about a "patch" that came out over 7 months ago and increased the queen range by 2...Something tells me sniper didn't beat ryung because of queens... nice try though

7 months ago sniper was a nobody.


10 months ago Sniper was playing a very close series against Mvp in the last round of Code A, as a kid who just turned 17.

Compared to Ryung, who has been a mediocre player bouncing between Code A and Code S for ages, without ever winning anything, ever all killing in team leagues, nothing. Just the perfect picture of mediocrity.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 16:46:25
December 01 2012 16:44 GMT
#188
On December 02 2012 01:38 MrCon wrote:
I ragequited the stream way before the IMBA IMBA (and having seen the screenshot, Ryung went really too far ><).
But that made me think about how zerg has been buffed for what, 18 months. 18 months during which no zerg ever used any infestors and claimed it was a bad unit. What I'm trying to say is that if you transpose modern zerg play and maps to old patches (no, not to reaper era), zerg will probably will be well balanced. Which means that Blizzard should never have patched the game after fixing the 5 rax reaper xD

Well don't forget that infestor got a massive switch in the fungal department. Before it was the same damage over 8 seconds instead of 4. The DPS essentially got doubled if you have enough infestors to keep it up. Before that people simply preferred muta's since they allowed very easy harass (at the time since pro's couldn't defend right to it yet)
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
December 01 2012 16:47 GMT
#189
On December 02 2012 01:43 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:42 noddy wrote:
. I know that a lot of people are calling Zerg imba these days but I honestly just think it's an excuse for people with no skills


This is hilarious. I can't wait to see where both of these players will end up once the metagame shifts back to normal.

Ryung will be in Code A getting easy money in foreign tournaments and Sniper will be a Code S regular. I don't know if anyone noticed but he barely used any BL or Infestors..


BL and infestors aren't the only things that are ridiculous right now. Sniper is just like Jjakji, a player who won when the meta-game was ridiculously in Terran's favour and who has now fallen off. We'll see when HotS is here.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
December 01 2012 16:49 GMT
#190
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 01 2012 16:49 GMT
#191
On December 02 2012 01:44 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:38 MrCon wrote:
I ragequited the stream way before the IMBA IMBA (and having seen the screenshot, Ryung went really too far ><).
But that made me think about how zerg has been buffed for what, 18 months. 18 months during which no zerg ever used any infestors and claimed it was a bad unit. What I'm trying to say is that if you transpose modern zerg play and maps to old patches (no, not to reaper era), zerg will probably will be well balanced. Which means that Blizzard should never have patched the game after fixing the 5 rax reaper xD

Well don't forget that infestor got a massive switch in the fungal department. Before it was the same damage over 8 seconds instead of 4. The DPS essentially got doubled if you have enough infestors to keep it up.

One could argue that it was a nerf tho. I'm still not sure but I'm not sure that reverting this change in the current game and going back to a 8 seconds root would really be a nerf. Well it would be a nerf in ZvP I suppose, where the dps is more important I think ?
I also not talk about every change, for instance the hit point buffs for hatcheries/nexus was good. But in the current map pool the old medivac speed would be good (they nerfed it when xelnaga caverns was still played in every tournament).
The problem (if there is a problem), is that all these patches were fixing problems that the modern maps also fixed, which is why it possibly went too far in the changes.
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 01 2012 16:49 GMT
#192
On December 02 2012 01:43 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:42 noddy wrote:
. I know that a lot of people are calling Zerg imba these days but I honestly just think it's an excuse for people with no skills


This is hilarious. I can't wait to see where both of these players will end up once the metagame shifts back to normal.

Ryung will be in Code A getting easy money in foreign tournaments and Sniper will be a Code S regular. I don't know if anyone noticed but he barely used any BL or Infestors..



easy money in foreign tournaments?

I doubt it. I've seen ryung in foreign tournaments and he lost there, looking very mediocre.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
December 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#193
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2975 Posts
December 01 2012 16:55 GMT
#194
On December 01 2012 19:42 padfoota wrote:
After what he did to slayers I was already not a fan of Snipers, plus hes zerg.

Now he calls ryung no skill. Sure, ryung had some weird builds in there, but really?

Wheres the Sniper anti-fan club


I feel the same, I was impressed with Sniper, but his comments made him a douchebag imo. I hope Hyun crushes his ass 4-0.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
December 01 2012 16:56 GMT
#195
On December 02 2012 01:47 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:43 Emzeeshady wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:42 noddy wrote:
. I know that a lot of people are calling Zerg imba these days but I honestly just think it's an excuse for people with no skills


This is hilarious. I can't wait to see where both of these players will end up once the metagame shifts back to normal.

Ryung will be in Code A getting easy money in foreign tournaments and Sniper will be a Code S regular. I don't know if anyone noticed but he barely used any BL or Infestors..


BL and infestors aren't the only things that are ridiculous right now. Sniper is just like Jjakji, a player who won when the meta-game was ridiculously in Terran's favour and who has now fallen off. We'll see when HotS is here.


No surprise that a player whose strength is in TvZ falls off when the patch hit that hard. Just look at MMA.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 16:58:12
December 01 2012 16:57 GMT
#196
On December 02 2012 01:55 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 19:42 padfoota wrote:
After what he did to slayers I was already not a fan of Snipers, plus hes zerg.

Now he calls ryung no skill. Sure, ryung had some weird builds in there, but really?

Wheres the Sniper anti-fan club


I feel the same, I was impressed with Sniper, but his comments made him a douchebag imo. I hope Hyun crushes his ass 4-0.

While I agree with this(The bolded part only). Don't forget Sniper said this as a response to Ryung typing pretty much saying Sniper only won because of imba race which is pretty damn BM....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
December 01 2012 16:58 GMT
#197
On December 02 2012 01:55 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 19:42 padfoota wrote:
After what he did to slayers I was already not a fan of Snipers, plus hes zerg.

Now he calls ryung no skill. Sure, ryung had some weird builds in there, but really?

Wheres the Sniper anti-fan club


I feel the same, I was impressed with Sniper, but his comments made him a douchebag imo. I hope Hyun crushes his ass 4-0.



He answered the way he did, because of what Ryung did...

Sniper has worked his ass off to get to where he is and for someone to do what ryung did is just flatout annoying and disrespectful.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 01 2012 17:01 GMT
#198
On December 02 2012 01:56 Woizit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:47 noddy wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:43 Emzeeshady wrote:
On December 02 2012 01:42 noddy wrote:
. I know that a lot of people are calling Zerg imba these days but I honestly just think it's an excuse for people with no skills


This is hilarious. I can't wait to see where both of these players will end up once the metagame shifts back to normal.

Ryung will be in Code A getting easy money in foreign tournaments and Sniper will be a Code S regular. I don't know if anyone noticed but he barely used any BL or Infestors..


BL and infestors aren't the only things that are ridiculous right now. Sniper is just like Jjakji, a player who won when the meta-game was ridiculously in Terran's favour and who has now fallen off. We'll see when HotS is here.


No surprise that a player whose strength is in TvZ falls off when the patch hit that hard. Just look at MMA.

MMA was going down pre patch tough.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 01 2012 17:03 GMT
#199
On December 02 2012 01:58 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:55 yoshi245 wrote:
On December 01 2012 19:42 padfoota wrote:
After what he did to slayers I was already not a fan of Snipers, plus hes zerg.

Now he calls ryung no skill. Sure, ryung had some weird builds in there, but really?

Wheres the Sniper anti-fan club


I feel the same, I was impressed with Sniper, but his comments made him a douchebag imo. I hope Hyun crushes his ass 4-0.



He answered the way he did, because of what Ryung did...

Sniper has worked his ass off to get to where he is and for someone to do what ryung did is just flatout annoying and disrespectful.


Then he should have made his response specific to Ryung only.
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 01 2012 17:04 GMT
#200
I went from hating Sniper (only for killing Leenock) to loving him after reading this interview. I love when pro-gamers will "bite-back" when verbally attacked or mocked.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
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