EPTOn November 29 2012 21:34 krutopatkin wrote:
huh? it doesnt only cover starcraft 2, but esports in general.
huh? it doesnt only cover starcraft 2, but esports in general.
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NY Times Runs a Day[9] and eSports Article - Page 3
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On November 29 2012 10:12 Gamegene wrote: Wish the article was more focused on a particular interesting element in our scene rather than trying to cover it's entirety. If I was someone who didn't know about the scene at all, none of this would make me particularly intrigued and hungry to read and learn more about eSports. For once there is no mention that people die 'cause they play too much I think we should be thankful  | ||
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Technique
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Gets boring already, same thing over and over again... ? | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On November 29 2012 23:11 IAttackYou wrote: This is quite sad that the first picture you see is League of Legends, not Starcraft. I would personally liked the journalist to do more research with the picture :/ The article isnt about sc2 exclusively ^^ | ||
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bbm
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Ambre
France416 Posts
Thank you for sharing this ! | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On November 29 2012 10:23 jmbthirteen wrote: The $25,000 is referring to MLG. And their number isn't about just sc2. Sundance says about 40 people can make a living off playing video games, not just sc2. As long as the community feels entitled to free-everything and complains about PPV and such, it will remain this way. The reason mainstream sports are so rich is because of the immense amount of money invested by fans, and the fact that the NFL is tax-exempt. I move for the MLG and IPL to push for tax-exempt status, instantly boosting profitability by 25-35%. Here's what the IRS says about tax-exempt leagues: "A business league is an association of persons having some common business interest, the purpose of which is to promote such common interest and not to engage in a regular business of a kind ordinarily carried on for profit. Trade associations and professional associations are business leagues. To be exempt, a business league's activities must be devoted to improving business conditions of one or more lines of business as distinguished from performing particular services for individual persons. No part of a business league's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual and it may not be organized for profit to engage in an activity ordinarily carried on for profit (even if the business is operated on a cooperative basis or produces only enough income to be self-sustaining). The term line of business generally refers either to an entire industry or to all components of an industry within a geographic area. It does not include a group composed of businesses that market a particular brand within an industry." (Huffingtonpost.com, "Why does the National Football League Deserve Tax-Exempt Status") Thus, classifying eSports leagues as promoting common interest and improving business conditions for one or more lines of business within the industry would make them tax-exempt. This also couldn't be closer to the truth. I have absolutely no problem supporting the industry that has given me so much entertainment- I buy every MLG, I have MLG, IPL and GSL premium subscriptions, and I'm typing this on my Razer mechanical keyboard and clicking my Razer mechanical mouse on my Team Liquid mousepad. Instead of a community outcry when MLG is ten *whole* dollars, perhaps we should just buy tickets like normal people and come together as an industry. Otherwise, we may eventually have to watch it fade away. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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Latringuden
Sweden79 Posts
On November 29 2012 23:39 Crownlol wrote: As long as the community feels entitled to free-everything and complains about PPV and such, it will remain this way. The reason mainstream sports are so rich is because of the immense amount of money invested by fans, and the fact that the NFL is tax-exempt. I move for the MLG and IPL to push for tax-exempt status, instantly boosting profitability by 25-35%. Here's what the IRS says about tax-exempt leagues: "A business league is an association of persons having some common business interest, the purpose of which is to promote such common interest and not to engage in a regular business of a kind ordinarily carried on for profit. Trade associations and professional associations are business leagues. To be exempt, a business league's activities must be devoted to improving business conditions of one or more lines of business as distinguished from performing particular services for individual persons. No part of a business league's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual and it may not be organized for profit to engage in an activity ordinarily carried on for profit (even if the business is operated on a cooperative basis or produces only enough income to be self-sustaining). The term line of business generally refers either to an entire industry or to all components of an industry within a geographic area. It does not include a group composed of businesses that market a particular brand within an industry." (Huffingtonpost.com, "Why does the National Football League Deserve Tax-Exempt Status") Thus, classifying eSports leagues as promoting common interest and improving business conditions for one or more lines of business within the industry would make them tax-exempt. This also couldn't be closer to the truth. I have absolutely no problem supporting the industry that has given me so much entertainment- I buy every MLG, I have MLG, IPL and GSL premium subscriptions, and I'm typing this on my Razer mechanical keyboard and clicking my Razer mechanical mouse on my Team Liquid mousepad. Instead of a community outcry when MLG is ten *whole* dollars, perhaps we should just buy tickets like normal people and come together as an industry. Otherwise, we may eventually have to watch it fade away. This. And we need to figure out how to keep the good players good for a long period of time. Of course there will always be some new prodigy comming in doing an upset or establish themselves as the top. But this shouldn't be something that happens every six months. Ofcourse all players won't be able to play into their late 30's but the really good consistent ones should still hold up. Might be a motivational problem, might be something else. But for esports to keep growing we can't have 25 as the year you retire... | ||
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BBoyXELAnt
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Alryk
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On November 29 2012 23:39 Crownlol wrote: As long as the community feels entitled to free-everything and complains about PPV and such, it will remain this way. The reason mainstream sports are so rich is because of the immense amount of money invested by fans, and the fact that the NFL is tax-exempt. I move for the MLG and IPL to push for tax-exempt status, instantly boosting profitability by 25-35%. Here's what the IRS says about tax-exempt leagues: "A business league is an association of persons having some common business interest, the purpose of which is to promote such common interest and not to engage in a regular business of a kind ordinarily carried on for profit. Trade associations and professional associations are business leagues. To be exempt, a business league's activities must be devoted to improving business conditions of one or more lines of business as distinguished from performing particular services for individual persons. No part of a business league's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual and it may not be organized for profit to engage in an activity ordinarily carried on for profit (even if the business is operated on a cooperative basis or produces only enough income to be self-sustaining). The term line of business generally refers either to an entire industry or to all components of an industry within a geographic area. It does not include a group composed of businesses that market a particular brand within an industry." (Huffingtonpost.com, "Why does the National Football League Deserve Tax-Exempt Status") Thus, classifying eSports leagues as promoting common interest and improving business conditions for one or more lines of business within the industry would make them tax-exempt. This also couldn't be closer to the truth. I have absolutely no problem supporting the industry that has given me so much entertainment- I buy every MLG, I have MLG, IPL and GSL premium subscriptions, and I'm typing this on my Razer mechanical keyboard and clicking my Razer mechanical mouse on my Team Liquid mousepad. Instead of a community outcry when MLG is ten *whole* dollars, perhaps we should just buy tickets like normal people and come together as an industry. Otherwise, we may eventually have to watch it fade away. Biggest sport in the world, football, can actually be enjoyed for free as well. Of course you also got the option to pay for it, so it's pretty similar to esports right now. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On November 30 2012 01:04 Technique wrote: Biggest sport in the world, football, can actually be enjoyed for free as well. Of course you also got the option to pay for it, so it's pretty similar to esports right now. I don't see the parallel. Football (EU) is huge because of the vast sums of money being spent on it by its global fans. It has reached a maturity where it has become such a massive industry, that yes, sometimes you can watch it for free. However, most sports bars and home users spend extra money for the premium channels. If football stadiums weren't playing to huge crowds, with massive money in merchandising and advertising, you couldn't watch it for free. | ||
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neptunusfisk
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On November 29 2012 23:20 Technique wrote: Why is it again about some guy making videos for noobies instead of actual pro gamers? What? Day9 and Tasteless were great players before they even considered commentating. (But you perhaps don't consider brood war an esport..?) Day9 placed top 16 (he lost to XellOs) in the WCG back in 2004, and he has made it to three WCG USA finals, of which he won one. He also won the Pan-american Championship in 2007. His daily show (which by the way is awesome) began only a few years ago. + Show Spoiler + He also made a charming episode of the very same daily about himself, his brother and their careers. It's absolutely fascinating. | ||
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