Mrbitter mugged in china - Page 4
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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Melaine
United States56 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:22 ragz_gt wrote: Hey, glad you are OK and hopefully you get your money back, and then you'd just have a really kick arse story to tell! From my experience and what I heard from friends Shanghai is pretty safe (though the bars, especially where foreigners tend to go, were packed with hookers), must be shitty luck. .....Places like Shanghai and other foreigner hot spots are even more not safe and a perfect place for criminals over their to strike a foreigner target, It's China guys. | ||
MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:24 Aveng3r wrote: thats bullshit that this happens, why dont you report the place where you were at to the cops or something? if you remember where it was that is I could tell the cops where I was when I got in the cab, but I have no fucking clue where they took me. ![]() Maybe there's an address on he credit card transactions? My bank might be able to press charges. Although I have no clue how that would work in China. On November 16 2012 07:25 Solarsail wrote: Why were they so 'nice'? Just asking you to follow them instead of taking you, having a pretence of you needing to pay because you're in 'their club', and then sending you back to your hotel afterwards? Hell if I know. I wasn't really trying to cause trouble. Just wanted to get out of there, so I was pretty much doing whatever they asked. The boss got pretty pissed after my transactions started going through, but he got nice again once my card started getting declined. >.< | ||
GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:26 Melaine wrote: .....Places like Shanghai and other foreigner hot spots are even more not safe and a perfect place for criminals over their to strike a foreigner target, It's China guys. Lol okay....go back to the 1940s | ||
Melaine
United States56 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:24 Aveng3r wrote: thats bullshit that this happens, why dont you report the place where you were at to the cops or something? if you remember where it was that is Chinese cops are not the most legit and don't take to much concern when Americans/Euros/Uk get robed. Ever been to Mexico? Well China can be 10x worse in that area. | ||
Melaine
United States56 Posts
I go to China often for work, I'm, not sure if you have a clue on how it works in Asia. | ||
ragz_gt
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SkyfOu
United States81 Posts
On a more serious note, that sucks to hear. I hope he'll be alright considering $2k is a pretty big blow to most people. | ||
Dr.Sin
Canada1126 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:28 Melaine wrote: I go to China often for work, I'm, not sure if you have a clue on how it works in Asia. Good for you, I lived in China for 6 years. Never been robbed, stabbed, or any between. Mr bitter put himself in a crappy situation tbh | ||
ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:18 Melaine wrote: there is no such thing as "good" or "bad" places in south east Asia/China......It's not like in USA rich spoiled kids can avoid certain areas and feel "safe" China has massive crime all over the place, and China is not very friendly towards UK/USA folk, seems like something Mr Bitter should of been aware of, diff if he was at a "party" China is known for doing this sort of thing to traveler's who get to drunk at parties, does not matter what area u are in at China, something you always have to be a aware of. China/North Korea and other places like these in Asia can be very scary if you don't know what you are doing, not exactly the most friendly places in our world. I been to China many times for work and you always have to be aware of people as a American/UK/Euro there. But glad to see he is ok.......these thing does happen all the time and almost 100% certain to happen act stupid or get drunk @ a party and get isolated from your group. Usually gangsters try to mug travelers, and they will not mug local people that easily. And also not just to foreigners, travelers from other cities are also targets. And ofc foreigners has language barrier, it is a plus for gangsters. I would say bad luck to him, foreigners are usually treated like panda by regular chinese people. | ||
Sub40APM
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:28 Melaine wrote: I go to China often for work, I'm, not sure if you have a clue on how it works in Asia. I lived in Shanghai for 7 years, beautiful place, much modern and safer than most US cities. Clearly you don't have a clue. | ||
MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:35 GreyKnight wrote: Good for you, I lived in China for 6 years. Never been robbed, stabbed, or any between. Mr bitter put himself in a crappy situation tbh Wait how is this in any way on MrBitter. Unless he was walking through the most robbery-infested area with a sign saying "PLEASE MUG ME" I'd say he deserves our compassion at this moment and not blame. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
Won't the police just shoot you in the back of the head on the streets now? Or cart you off in a death van? | ||
MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:40 MajorityofOne wrote: Wait how is this in any way on MrBitter. Unless he was walking through the most robbery-infested area with a sign saying "PLEASE MUG ME" I'd say he deserves our compassion at this moment and not blame. Nah dude. Shitty luck, but it's still on me. Shouldn't have been by myself, shouldn't have been like "wtf who is this random Chinese guy in my cab" and definitely shouldn't have just rolled with it like I did. At the end of the day, I'm really lucky that all they wanted was money. Gladly accept the "dumbass" title. Earned it this time. | ||
PH
United States6173 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:13 Tsuki.eu wrote: Why do we care about that? You're right. We definitely shouldn't care about anything but ourselves. How stupid of us. | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:14 MrBitter wrote: Hey guys, I'm more embarrassed about this whole situation than anything else. Here's the story. I was out at a bar in a nice part of Shanghai with Rotti. Beautiful place, very nice. We were both having a good time, but as it was getting later, I started wanting to take off. Kev wanted to stay out a little longer, so I just bailed around 11 PM. Walked to the street, got into a cab (it was parked in a row of other cabs) and started handing driver my hotel card with the address of the place we're staying. As I'm doing this another guy gets in the car and says something in Chinese to the driver. This is the point where I should have just gotten out of the car, but I was so "wtf!?" that I just sorta sat there. After like 2 seconds cab driver just starts driving. We go for 5-10 minutes down some random roads on random ass Shanghai and stop in this kinda shady looking place with literally nobody around. At this point I know I'm in a shitty situation and trying to calculate what to do. Random dude that got into the cab tells me in broken English to come with him. This is the second point where I guess I could have just walked away, but I had no idea where I was, and this cab driver was the only other person in sight. If I just walk off, I'd literally be walking the streets of a pretty ghetto part of Shanghai alone and in the dark, and just about all other prospects seemed better, so I'm like "fuck it" and I walk with the guy into some little hole in the wall. I'm assuming we were in a whore house, as there were naked pictures of girls on the walls, and really nasty looking girls walking around in dirty outfits. Dude from the cab walks me into a room and tells me to wait. Few minutes later 4 guys walk in. One had really funny hair. Apparently he was the boss. He starts telling me that I'm in his club and I have to pay him. This is the point where I know I'm pretty much fucked. He has three other dudes who literally look like they came out of a bad gangster movie. One of them has a taped up hand, the other is all buff and mean looking, and there's a third old looking guy who is introduced as the head of security. (lol?) Funny hair guy tells me to empty my pockets. I can either comply or try to fight... in these situations I think its always better to just give the dudes what they want than to try and do something stupid. They weren't trying to rape me, just rob me, and it was pretty obvious. They wanted me to give them 40,000 RMB. I had about 1,000 RMB cash on me and my debit card. Funny hair guy says something in Chinese to one of the other guys. Dude leaves, and a few minutes later comes back with a credit card machine. Funny hair guy asks me what the limit on my card is. I'm like "well fuck." I tell him $300 US. Because it is. I have a $300 daily withdrawal limit on my checking account. This is very deliberate. I like to play poker, and I'm bad at stopping myself, so I had my bank limit me to $300 per day. lol. Embarrassing but true. He punches in 5,000 RMB, which is like $800 US and scans my card. Then he tells me to enter my pin. "Fuck it." I do. "Transfer Approved" Great. Now I've lied to this angry little gangster, and I'm out $800. He starts to yell at me. "WHY ARE YOU LYING TO ME" "Honestly dude, I've got a $300 withdrawal limit." He punches in 5,000 again. I enter pin. Approved. "double fuck." Now he makes me write down my pin code and my name. He's pissed that I've lied to him twice. He walks off with my card and is gone for 20 minutes. Eventually he comes back, and tells me he tried to withdraw 10,000 RMB more from my account, but thankfully it was declined. He gives me 200 RMB cash for a cab and tells me that I'm going to go with two of his "staff" to an ATM and I'm going to withdraw as much money as I can. "triple fuck" I walk out of this shitty little whore house or whatever the fuck it is and get into a cab with these two short little Chinese gangsters. I'm pretty pissed myself at this point, and seriously am considering trying to fight, but I suck it up. I had no idea if they had weapons, and I was pretty sure I didn't have any more money for them to steal. We drive for like 20 more fucking minutes away from Shanghai to an ATM. We get out, I give my card to one of the gangster dudes, punch in my pin for him, card gets declined. He tries again. Declined. Makes me try once. Declined. They walk me back to the cab, put me in and say in perfect english "where is your hotel sir?" I give the hotel card to the gangster dude, he gives it to my cab driver, and presumably tells him to take me home, and that's where we went. Once back at the hotel I called the back to see if I could stop payment on the 10,000 RMB transactions they pulled. Of course there will be a bank investigation. Haven't called the cops because I don't know wtf I would tell them. I still have no fucking idea where I was, or who stole from me. In hindsight, they were pretty polite about it. TLDR: Didn't get out of car when strange Chinese guy got in. Ended up costing me about $1600 US. Hoping for the best. What I learned: Never travel alone. China's a beautiful country, and Shanghai's an amazing city. I do think I'll be spending my evenings at the hotel from now on, though. I am successful outside of e-sports, but I did not grow up with a silver spoon in my mouth. We never had money when I was young. Both my parents are self made successes. I've worked in construction, in factories, and in sales jobs making my way. I'm not loaded. $1,600 is a lot of money. It won't kill me if I don't get it back. But your post is largely misinformation. Had been drinking. Was not drunk. Was stupid to try and go home alone. I've been around the world a couple times and this is the first time I've had something like this happen. I was completely to blame for being by myself, and for not just bailing out of that cab immediately when the random dude got in. Live and learn. bank will probably do it as part of the investigation, but if they used a portable ATM, they can track that and where the money was sent. luckily you werent able to take out any cash, which wouldnt be traceable. | ||
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