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On November 17 2012 22:41 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:09 eltese wrote:On November 16 2012 06:07 Warlock40 wrote:Is there any chance at all of him being able to get his money back? They might never catch the robbers, but can he go to the bank and say he was coerced? On November 16 2012 06:05 larse wrote: I'm surprised that none of those casters, players, and media people bought a VPN before they went there. A what? He says on reddit that he has called the bank and that they are launching an investigation. So hopefully! He will call the bank but not the police. Interesting. Calling the police in China does JACK SHIT. I've said this numerous times before. Police will even steal a foreigner's passport in China and hold it hostage while the foreigner coughs up 5000 RMB for it. I know guys that have been in that situation before.
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why would you blame yourself for anything, those guys are just shit ^^
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Yeah, at the end of the day, the sentiment that we should be suspicious of absolutely everyone everywhere is beyond depressing because it's actually the most efficient outlook to have Depressing!
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On November 18 2012 04:40 Enders116 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:41 ReachTheSky wrote:On November 16 2012 06:09 eltese wrote:On November 16 2012 06:07 Warlock40 wrote:Is there any chance at all of him being able to get his money back? They might never catch the robbers, but can he go to the bank and say he was coerced? On November 16 2012 06:05 larse wrote: I'm surprised that none of those casters, players, and media people bought a VPN before they went there. A what? He says on reddit that he has called the bank and that they are launching an investigation. So hopefully! He will call the bank but not the police. Interesting. Calling the police in China does JACK SHIT. I've said this numerous times before. Police will even steal a foreigner's passport in China and hold it hostage while the foreigner coughs up 5000 RMB for it. I know guys that have been in that situation before.
proof or bullshit.
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On November 18 2012 04:40 Enders116 wrote: Calling the police in China does JACK SHIT. I've said this numerous times before. Police will even steal a foreigner's passport in China and hold it hostage while the foreigner coughs up 5000 RMB for it. I know guys that have been in that situation before.
Actually Enders, it depends on which city in China and your nationality. In Shanghai, if you are a foreigner and you report this to the police, they may take is seriously because the government wants to protect Shanghai's reputation. Something like this showing up in the foreign media would look really bad for Shanghai.
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did mrbitter at least report to the cops eventually?
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On November 18 2012 04:40 Enders116 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 22:41 ReachTheSky wrote:On November 16 2012 06:09 eltese wrote:On November 16 2012 06:07 Warlock40 wrote:Is there any chance at all of him being able to get his money back? They might never catch the robbers, but can he go to the bank and say he was coerced? On November 16 2012 06:05 larse wrote: I'm surprised that none of those casters, players, and media people bought a VPN before they went there. A what? He says on reddit that he has called the bank and that they are launching an investigation. So hopefully! He will call the bank but not the police. Interesting. Calling the police in China does JACK SHIT. I've said this numerous times before. Police will even steal a foreigner's passport in China and hold it hostage while the foreigner coughs up 5000 RMB for it. I know guys that have been in that situation before.
Cops have gotten alot better in regards to domestic and civil policing, sure they still pick sides and are corrupt to a degree, but that's pretty much true for any country. I've never heard of this happening because for one, foreigners - especially Caucasian / white - are regarded quite highly by the general populace because of the amount of admiration they place on them, I would say even higher than the general regard is for Chinese domestic tourists going to another part of their own country and speaking with a different dialect. And the police really don't want to cause any international incidents because of how much negative attention that would attract to them, not simply from the media or western critique, but from their own government for the amount of shit that it would spawn. It was one of the tipping points that got Bo Xilai stripped of his power since a British person was killed in some convoluted plot, keep in mind Bo Xilai was able to command essential the entire city's cop force to surround an American Embassy but he still can't dodge the bullet on this one because it became an international incident.
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Mighty intriguing, sounds like a metropolitan legend. Not that I'm accused of it not being true, but it is really interesting to get some insights of how the back alleys of China is like, from a foreigners's perspective, based on his own experience. Sorry for the financial loss but on the bright side, it was wise not to defy them. Also, I would suggest you calling the police as they do take foreigners seriously more than their own citizens(more like residents, not ciztizens), which is both sarcastic and hilarious. Dont't you if you ever heard of the news before. The police in Wuhai did moblize local residents to find a lost bike for a Japanese guy, whose stolen bike was retrieved in no more than 2 days. Here's another story. Some police in Beijing actually went a long and treacherous way in a hill area where there is no basic infrastructure whatsoever but winding paths, to retrieve a lost horse for an US guy. So I'd say there is a pretty good chance they would really put some efforts for your case, especially at this critical momment of transition.
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On November 16 2012 21:30 Inzan1ty wrote: China (the majority) is still very poor
you should expect the unexpected, aka better treat it like a 3rd world countty (it isnt, but it might be in terms of criminal activities)
However you are rather safe in Japan and South Korea.
This is just retarded. It's the same for all countries, I don't feel safe walking through Osaka, Sydney, or Auckland at dead night especially alone.
Wonder if people here actually travel or they get everything from news channels.
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On November 19 2012 16:17 yandere991 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 21:30 Inzan1ty wrote: China (the majority) is still very poor
you should expect the unexpected, aka better treat it like a 3rd world countty (it isnt, but it might be in terms of criminal activities)
However you are rather safe in Japan and South Korea. This is just retarded. It's the same for all countries, I don't feel safe walking through Osaka, Sydney, or Auckland at dead night especially alone. Wonder if people here actually travel or they get everything from new channels. Exactly what I was thinking. Every city in this world has its "dark alleys", only a matter of more or less of them. Regardless, walking alone in a shady street/alley is like asking for trouble.
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On November 17 2012 15:09 Chaves wrote: Hope you ar well bro, next time contact slivko to be your personal security guy.
I do really feel for Bitter, but this comment cracked me up...
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This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was.
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On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote: This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. Hard to say what the right move is there.
If for whatever reasons you dont like china or dont want blizzard to host tournaments there, that's ok, but you cant be serious, that blizzard or the embassy could put pressure on anyone with something like this.
I've heard at least 10 similar stories about ppl getting robbed. These things happen all over the world. I'm not saying it's good or anything, but there's nothing unique about it. MrBitter probably had not heard such stories before, that's why he didnt get out of the taxi and followed the guy, i'm sure many of you would have done the same.
It was a hard learned lesson, I hope he can get something done with the bank to at least reduce the losses. If nothing else, none reading this will fall to the same trick.
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I came across him last night at the hotel, and asked him about how did he feel about BWC and China(on purpose), and he was like "it's fantastic and China is a good country", but from his voice I know he is not happy lol.
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Feel sorry for Mr Bitter, feel ashamed as a Chinese
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Yea its a pretty shitty situation.
I've had something similar happen to me. I went to Austria a few years back and was drinking in a park with a girl from my school that I randomly ran into in a museum in Vienna. These 16 year old Kids came up to us, and started asking us questions, they didn't speak English very well but the girl I was with knew some German. So after some questions we asked what nationality they where because they where darker skinned and some where speaking another language besides German. The mistake I made was picking one out of the group and guessing that he was from Kazakhstan (which he was) and somehow that offended him all his friends where laughing that i guessed right. So we leave and as where walking down the street the kid from Kazakhstan shows up with a new group of friends about 6 of them, they start to literally just reach in my pocket and they take my cell phone before I even realize whats going on. They take the girls purse and take her camera and take a bit of money off of both of us.
Their wasn't any violence, and the weird part was that their was a few other people on the street and we where asking them to help but they just ignored us. I guess I should probably disclaim that I had a Cast on as I had broken my wrist in 2 places from a car accident shortly before the trip so i was in no condition to fight back. They ended up taking what they could and running away. Even if I had been able bodied i probably wouldn't have fought back i was using a pretty shitty cell phone over there, and I didn't have much money (100 euro's or so) on me anyways, it wasn't a very big deal. I thought it was pretty screwed up that no one would help us out though, like the few businessmen we saw walking down the street just kept on walking.
Either way it was a shitty situation so i can understand where mr bitter is coming from, although his story is like 1000x more fucked up lol.
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On November 19 2012 18:31 WeAgree wrote: Feel sorry for Mr Bitter, feel ashamed as a Chinese
If everyone would feel ashamed when a tourist is robbed in their country, we'd all die of depression pretty soon.
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woa, really sorry for bitter man
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Wow... Why would he even go around anywhere in Asia without a translator or other friends... That's such a bad idea. Although I do agree, Hong Kong is much safer than anywhere else in China lol.
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On November 19 2012 12:40 aintz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 04:40 Enders116 wrote:On November 17 2012 22:41 ReachTheSky wrote:On November 16 2012 06:09 eltese wrote:On November 16 2012 06:07 Warlock40 wrote:Is there any chance at all of him being able to get his money back? They might never catch the robbers, but can he go to the bank and say he was coerced? On November 16 2012 06:05 larse wrote: I'm surprised that none of those casters, players, and media people bought a VPN before they went there. A what? He says on reddit that he has called the bank and that they are launching an investigation. So hopefully! He will call the bank but not the police. Interesting. Calling the police in China does JACK SHIT. I've said this numerous times before. Police will even steal a foreigner's passport in China and hold it hostage while the foreigner coughs up 5000 RMB for it. I know guys that have been in that situation before. proof or bullshit.
take a trip to china like the rest of us have. then accuse us of bullshit.
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