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On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was.
China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried.
Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary.
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On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary.
My country might be shit , but at least I walk safe at night :>
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On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary.
The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe.
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On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe.
You don't have to say that. You really, really don't.
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I was in Japan (this happened in Osaka) a year ago and remember a couple from my hotel complaining that while they were out walking some people in police uniforms (off the top of my head I think they said police vests, not the full uniform) had started harassing them for identification and then money.
Don't think anything ever came of it though
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On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe.
Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse.
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On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse.
Yes sure, he won't have anything stolen, but his life will most likely be taken, since gangsters will have better equipment, like machine guns against his pathetic pistols.
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On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse.
What happens if they both had guns? Does someone always end up getting shot over money. I would tend to think that if you ever have a gun and a real gangster is messing with you, then he has one too, and he probably has less reservations about using it. At the end of the day, your best bet is probably just trying to recoup your losses.
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On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary.
Kind of not fair to compare the suburbs to one of the largest cities in the world.
Edit: I just learned that Paris is not even in the list of 60 largest cities, but the point remains.
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On November 20 2012 13:37 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse. What happens if they both had guns? Does someone always end up getting shot over money. I would tend to think that if you ever have a gun and a real gangster is messing with you, then he has one too, and he probably has less reservations about using it. At the end of the day, your best bet is probably just trying to recoup your losses.
Um, whip out the gun and fire it. You aren't going to be pointing it at them for a minute like in movies. And yes, somebody is going to get shot. They tried to rob you , doesn't meant they are going to die. Not that this is the best scenario for it but, yes its safer if everybody has a firearm. People tend to not mess with each other when they both know about it.
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On November 20 2012 15:20 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 13:37 playa wrote:On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse. What happens if they both had guns? Does someone always end up getting shot over money. I would tend to think that if you ever have a gun and a real gangster is messing with you, then he has one too, and he probably has less reservations about using it. At the end of the day, your best bet is probably just trying to recoup your losses. Um, whip out the gun and fire it. You aren't going to be pointing it at them for a minute like in movies. And yes, somebody is going to get shot. They tried to rob you , doesn't meant they are going to die. Not that this is the best scenario for it but, yes its safer if everybody has a firearm. People tend to not mess with each other when they both know about it.
This is an absolutely absurd stance to take on this situation. So, instead of Mr. Bitter walking away short a thousand dollars or more, he gets into an armed confrontation with a Chinese gangster on his home turf with nobody to help him. And entangles himself in a situation that could possibly cost him thousands of dollars more and years of legal trouble.
You're delusional for saying "it's safer if everybody has a firearm" as well, that is an INCREDIBLY dangerous and irresponsible attitude to take. Seriously, this kind of attitude is just a gun-nut fantasy.
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On November 20 2012 15:20 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 13:37 playa wrote:On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse. What happens if they both had guns? Does someone always end up getting shot over money. I would tend to think that if you ever have a gun and a real gangster is messing with you, then he has one too, and he probably has less reservations about using it. At the end of the day, your best bet is probably just trying to recoup your losses. Um, whip out the gun and fire it. You aren't going to be pointing it at them for a minute like in movies. And yes, somebody is going to get shot. They tried to rob you , doesn't meant they are going to die. Not that this is the best scenario for it but, yes its safer if everybody has a firearm. People tend to not mess with each other when they both know about it.
Yeah tell that to the plethora of evidence illustrating the considerably higher level of gun crimes and injuries in the US compared to other first world countries...
Bit sad you value life so little as to think you would rather gamble on who has a quicker draw than give up $1600 that you would probably get back from the bank anyway...
And lol try shooting and killing chinese citizen as a foreigner, see how far that gets you in their legal system
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On November 20 2012 15:36 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 15:20 skatblast wrote:On November 20 2012 13:37 playa wrote:On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse. What happens if they both had guns? Does someone always end up getting shot over money. I would tend to think that if you ever have a gun and a real gangster is messing with you, then he has one too, and he probably has less reservations about using it. At the end of the day, your best bet is probably just trying to recoup your losses. Um, whip out the gun and fire it. You aren't going to be pointing it at them for a minute like in movies. And yes, somebody is going to get shot. They tried to rob you , doesn't meant they are going to die. Not that this is the best scenario for it but, yes its safer if everybody has a firearm. People tend to not mess with each other when they both know about it. Yeah tell that to the plethora of evidence illustrating the considerably higher level of gun crimes and injuries in the US compared to other first world countries... Bit sad you value life so little as to think you would rather gamble on who has a quicker draw than give up $1600 that you would probably get back from the bank anyway... And lol try shooting and killing chinese citizen as a foreigner, see how far that gets you in their legal system
Im not saying he would have done this in china.... obviously you cant carry around concealed weapons there. In america, yes you can get away with shooting somebody if they are trying to rob you and you feel threatened (for your life) if you want to say that to your lawyer.
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I'm more embarrassed about this whole situation than anything else. Here's the story.
there's nothing to be embarrassed about, fucking scumbags straight up stole your money. none of it is your fault.
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On November 20 2012 15:20 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 13:37 playa wrote:On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse. What happens if they both had guns? Does someone always end up getting shot over money. I would tend to think that if you ever have a gun and a real gangster is messing with you, then he has one too, and he probably has less reservations about using it. At the end of the day, your best bet is probably just trying to recoup your losses. Um, whip out the gun and fire it. You aren't going to be pointing it at them for a minute like in movies. And yes, somebody is going to get shot. They tried to rob you , doesn't meant they are going to die. Not that this is the best scenario for it but, yes its safer if everybody has a firearm. People tend to not mess with each other when they both know about it.
You're insane. What do you think is going to happen when you whip out a gun and shoot one of 4 armed thugs? Gee, I wonder if the other 3 will retaliate. Everyone should carry guns? Jesus, what hole did you crawl out of? Most people don't have the proper judgment to know what kind of coffee they want in the morning, let alone make life or death decisions in the heat of the moment.
Anyway...glad MrBitter is safe, I think you're lucky in the method they robbed you, because credit/debit transactions are easy to trace and almost always revokable. If they had sent you to the ATM to begin with, the money would become liquid and you'd be screwed. I've disputed fraudulent transactions of $5k before just by filling out a simple form, so this amount shouldn't be any trouble.
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On November 20 2012 12:52 TheDraken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 12:40 aintz wrote:On November 18 2012 04:40 Enders116 wrote:On November 17 2012 22:41 ReachTheSky wrote:On November 16 2012 06:09 eltese wrote:On November 16 2012 06:07 Warlock40 wrote:Is there any chance at all of him being able to get his money back? They might never catch the robbers, but can he go to the bank and say he was coerced? On November 16 2012 06:05 larse wrote:
I'm surprised that none of those casters, players, and media people bought a VPN before they went there. A what? He says on reddit that he has called the bank and that they are launching an investigation. So hopefully! He will call the bank but not the police. Interesting. Calling the police in China does JACK SHIT. I've said this numerous times before. Police will even steal a foreigner's passport in China and hold it hostage while the foreigner coughs up 5000 RMB for it. I know guys that have been in that situation before. proof or bullshit. take a trip to china like the rest of us have. then accuse us of bullshit.
I still accuse you of bullshit.
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On November 20 2012 13:27 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe. Its true, if mr bitter had a concealed firearm then he wouldn't have had anything stolen from him. Thats why its a good thing to let everybody carry, except felons ofcourse.
in which case he would have been shot and killed for being a threat and then robbed on top of it. think before u speak. having a concealed weapon endangers ur life more than not having one, especially when ur being OUTNUMBERED by a bunch of thugs. bitter got real lucky if he got away with just money being stolen. having concealed weapons when the ppl that are robbing u might also have concealed weapons will turn a petty robbery into a gunfight.
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On November 20 2012 13:11 aka_star wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 12:59 endy wrote:On November 19 2012 17:18 Kaz_Coaching wrote:
This should be reported to the US embassy as well as Blizzard so they know where they are hosting tournaments. While it's true China government can't be responsible for every citizen, China officials have a tendency to look the other way when it comes to corruption. When pressured with the threat of losing US business, city officials are quick to crack down. The Embassy could also help report it to police, as I'm fairly sure Mr.Bitter doesn't speak Mandarin.
Shame it happened, I don't think I would have gotten out of the car without knowing where I was either. It's hard to say what the right move was. China is a much safer country than you think. You can actually walk in the suburbs, alone at night without being worried. Try cities like Paris, just taking the subway after 10pm is scary. The americans have it right, if everyone has a gun then we're all safe.
Yea, till the point where you get shot by someone in a bad mood cause he thinks you look funny at him.
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On November 20 2012 17:34 yandere991 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 12:52 TheDraken wrote:On November 19 2012 12:40 aintz wrote:On November 18 2012 04:40 Enders116 wrote:On November 17 2012 22:41 ReachTheSky wrote:On November 16 2012 06:09 eltese wrote:On November 16 2012 06:07 Warlock40 wrote:Is there any chance at all of him being able to get his money back? They might never catch the robbers, but can he go to the bank and say he was coerced? On November 16 2012 06:05 larse wrote:
I'm surprised that none of those casters, players, and media people bought a VPN before they went there. A what? He says on reddit that he has called the bank and that they are launching an investigation. So hopefully! He will call the bank but not the police. Interesting. Calling the police in China does JACK SHIT. I've said this numerous times before. Police will even steal a foreigner's passport in China and hold it hostage while the foreigner coughs up 5000 RMB for it. I know guys that have been in that situation before. proof or bullshit. take a trip to china like the rest of us have. then accuse us of bullshit. I still accuse you of bullshit.
Are you kidding me the police will never steal your passport because that is property of your government and if you go to your embassy and tell them that the chinese police took your passport and refused to give it back without a bribe that would be an international incident, there is just no way that a police officer would even consider doing that.
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glad that bitter is ok. glad to hear that even though you lied to them..they let you off alright. something like that would've scared me shitless and I would have not know what to do.
I just arrived in China myself and glad to be well informed and will definitely step out of the car when a stranger steps in it with me. Thanks a million Bitter.
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