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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:33:33
October 24 2012 05:33 GMT
#81
I was thinking of summarizing this entire story for a while, but it's convoluted as fuck and something new always keeps fucking happening
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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
October 24 2012 05:33 GMT
#82
ruh roh. This is getting intense.
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 24 2012 05:33 GMT
#83
This whole thing is just a mess.

I feel bad for MMA about what happened to his personal sponsorship. Hopefully he gets on EG and he'll be set.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 24 2012 05:34 GMT
#84
Not enough pop corn for so much drama.
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Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
October 24 2012 05:34 GMT
#85
On October 24 2012 14:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:30 achan1058 wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:30 Supamang wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:28 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:26 masterbreti wrote:
funny that now people will look at the Op now and think jessica is a liar, then in a hour, less people will look at the OP and still think jessica is a liar, but then she was actually telling the truth all along. Someone needs to make a summary thread me thinks.

She might have been telling the truth, still doesn't change the fact that she refuses to acknowledge she did something wrong and is pushing all the crap on to her former players instead of wiping some off herself.

Blah blah blah blah blah, reasons to continue fueling everyone here's hate for Jessica. I dont care about that. All we should be caring about is getting to the bottom of this whole thing. Who was right IN FACT? More importantly, who the hell is Manager J and why aren't we pushing to know more about him and his intentions?

Nobody is right. I think we can all conclude that. It's just who is more wrong.


This. There is no right. Just who is less wrong. Ugh.

i don't think that's a fair call. Morality isn't based on relativity.
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
October 24 2012 05:34 GMT
#86
On October 24 2012 14:33 Whatson wrote:
Wait...so Jessica was lying all along?
Why am I not surprised at all -.-


You didn't read the rest of the thread, did you?
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
October 24 2012 05:35 GMT
#87
On October 24 2012 14:34 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:30 achan1058 wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:30 Supamang wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:28 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:26 masterbreti wrote:
funny that now people will look at the Op now and think jessica is a liar, then in a hour, less people will look at the OP and still think jessica is a liar, but then she was actually telling the truth all along. Someone needs to make a summary thread me thinks.

She might have been telling the truth, still doesn't change the fact that she refuses to acknowledge she did something wrong and is pushing all the crap on to her former players instead of wiping some off herself.

Blah blah blah blah blah, reasons to continue fueling everyone here's hate for Jessica. I dont care about that. All we should be caring about is getting to the bottom of this whole thing. Who was right IN FACT? More importantly, who the hell is Manager J and why aren't we pushing to know more about him and his intentions?

Nobody is right. I think we can all conclude that. It's just who is more wrong.


This. There is no right. Just who is less wrong. Ugh.

i don't think that's a fair call. Morality isn't based on relativity.

I think it's more than fair to say that nobody is right, at least.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:35 GMT
#88
On October 24 2012 14:34 endy wrote:
Not enough pop corn for so much drama.

Popcorn? That is so old school, I am doing candy floss now, makes things so much sweeter
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
October 24 2012 05:35 GMT
#89
On October 24 2012 14:34 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:30 achan1058 wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:30 Supamang wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:28 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:26 masterbreti wrote:
funny that now people will look at the Op now and think jessica is a liar, then in a hour, less people will look at the OP and still think jessica is a liar, but then she was actually telling the truth all along. Someone needs to make a summary thread me thinks.

She might have been telling the truth, still doesn't change the fact that she refuses to acknowledge she did something wrong and is pushing all the crap on to her former players instead of wiping some off herself.

Blah blah blah blah blah, reasons to continue fueling everyone here's hate for Jessica. I dont care about that. All we should be caring about is getting to the bottom of this whole thing. Who was right IN FACT? More importantly, who the hell is Manager J and why aren't we pushing to know more about him and his intentions?

Nobody is right. I think we can all conclude that. It's just who is more wrong.


This. There is no right. Just who is less wrong. Ugh.

i don't think that's a fair call. Morality isn't based on relativity.



to go off-topic. it totally is.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:36:21
October 24 2012 05:35 GMT
#90
On October 24 2012 14:34 VManOfMana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:33 Whatson wrote:
Wait...so Jessica was lying all along?
Why am I not surprised at all -.-


You didn't read the rest of the thread, did you?

No I didn't, just did
and now my head just hurts
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:39:09
October 24 2012 05:37 GMT
#91
So with the tweet from Razer Korea vs the Chris Mitchel Razer rep, it's kind of like foreigners taking anti-Jessica and Koreans being pro-Jessica again (except for Chris Mitchell also adding that he did deal with translation).

Some of the other stories about manager J and other sponsorships that went to Boxer make this all very confusing. Manager J could be the evil at the center of all this, or he could be a scapegoat in his own right (both possibilities based on the fact everyone is blaming him). If he really is a scapegoat, that would kind of make sense as to why no one's actually going after him, except I'm not sure there's anything you can do.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 24 2012 05:37 GMT
#92
How does Razer Korea's tweet relate to Chris' tweet? Chris says he as dealing with Jessica directly...
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 24 2012 05:37 GMT
#93
On October 24 2012 14:33 Waxangel wrote:
I was thinking of summarizing this entire story for a while, but it's convoluted as fuck and something new always keeps fucking happening

Yeah. I was actually going to request a detailed timeline of everything that happened, including when Manager J got sacked by Razer and when MMA and co signed contracts, because I never really could understand why Crank was under so much fire.

But then as you say, this is like one of the most complicated SC2 dramas we've had.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 24 2012 05:39 GMT
#94
Wait... So did Chris just lose his job? Right now, it sounds like Jessica is out to get Chris.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
October 24 2012 05:39 GMT
#95
On October 24 2012 14:37 Ansinjunger wrote:
So with the tweet from Razer Korea vs the Chris Mitchel Razer rep, it's kind of like foreigners taking anti-Jessica and Koreans being pro-Jessica again.

Some of the other stories about manager J and other sponsorships that went to Boxer make this all very confusing. Manager J could be the evil at the center of all this, or he could be a scapegoat in his own right (both possibilities based on the fact everyone is blaming him). If he really is a scapegoat, that would kind of make sense as to why no one's actually going after him, except I'm not sure there's anything you can do.

You know, I have been wondering for a while why nobody is doing a lawsuit on him now. If what was said is true, the negotiation stuff must exist in both English and Korean, and someone can compare the translation. If it does not match, there's going to be a suit.
AndyVN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States10 Posts
October 24 2012 05:39 GMT
#96
On October 24 2012 14:37 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:33 Waxangel wrote:
I was thinking of summarizing this entire story for a while, but it's convoluted as fuck and something new always keeps fucking happening

Yeah. I was actually going to request a detailed timeline of everything that happened, including when Manager J got sacked by Razer and when MMA and co signed contracts, because I never really could understand why Crank was under so much fire.

But then as you say, this is like one of the most complicated SC2 dramas we've had.


I think it should be summarized once everything is said and done so there won't be multiple topics ongoing about different scenarios of the Kdrama.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#97
On October 24 2012 14:33 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:30 Supamang wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:28 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:26 masterbreti wrote:
funny that now people will look at the Op now and think jessica is a liar, then in a hour, less people will look at the OP and still think jessica is a liar, but then she was actually telling the truth all along. Someone needs to make a summary thread me thinks.

She might have been telling the truth, still doesn't change the fact that she refuses to acknowledge she did something wrong and is pushing all the crap on to her former players instead of wiping some off herself.

Blah blah blah blah blah, reasons to continue fueling everyone here's hate for Jessica. I dont care about that. All we should be caring about is getting to the bottom of this whole thing. Who was right IN FACT? More importantly, who the hell is Manager J and why aren't we pushing to know more about him and his intentions?

He's been at the center of this since the beginning and even the most vocal players (namely Jessica and some ex-Slayers guys) aren't talking much about him

lol? Of course you don't. You have been shitting on Crank and MMA , doing circle jerks for Jessica since the start of this problem.

And I think you don't understand the situation, when nearly everyone above my post has noticed the answer -> No one is right, everyone is wrong the only problem is who did more wrong.

hahaha...I've been "shitting on Crank and MMA" and "doing circle jerks for Jessica"? Quote me. And while your at it, calm the fuck down. We're talking about SC2 teams across the globe that you watch on your computer screen. Why are you using language like that?

This "no one is right, its just who is less wrong" is just pointless semantics. Youre saying it to sound deep and sophisticated. No I dont understand the situation, neither do you nor "nearly everyone above your post". No one understands the situation. Get off your high horse
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:40:27
October 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#98
OMG so much bullshit, why does someone just not interview Manager J..... everyone knows who he is.....
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#99
On October 24 2012 14:27 playa wrote:
Will someone tell me who to be mad at, already? So much anger going to waste due to confusion. F all of you guys, until someone proves their innocence.

it's all good, just email ALL the sponsors!
make sure you keep a record of all the emails too to release at a later date, and record all angry phone calls.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#100
On October 24 2012 14:39 geokilla wrote:
Wait... So did Chris just lose his job? Right now, it sounds like Jessica is out to get Chris.

I think Chris works at the main office, Razor korea is just a sub office, or am I mistaken? Please correct me if I am wrong
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