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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:41:11
October 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#101
So J was allegedly masquerading as Jessica? I fail to understand this guy's motives or actions.

- Gets fired from Razer.
- Tells MMA about pending sponsorship(s).
- Tells MMA Jessica is forwarding it to Boxer.
- MMA gets antsy.
- Masquerades as Jessica to reject sponsorship from Razer.
- .......?

I just want to ask:

BUT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#102
On October 24 2012 14:37 geokilla wrote:
How does Razer Korea's tweet relate to Chris' tweet? Chris says he as dealing with Jessica directly...


It's possible that Jessica gave him a direct response to the wrong propsoal (ie monsieur J gave her false info about it).

sounds like we need paper trails. is all business done by twitter these days?
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:41 GMT
#103
On October 24 2012 14:40 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:33 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:30 Supamang wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:28 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:26 masterbreti wrote:
funny that now people will look at the Op now and think jessica is a liar, then in a hour, less people will look at the OP and still think jessica is a liar, but then she was actually telling the truth all along. Someone needs to make a summary thread me thinks.

She might have been telling the truth, still doesn't change the fact that she refuses to acknowledge she did something wrong and is pushing all the crap on to her former players instead of wiping some off herself.

Blah blah blah blah blah, reasons to continue fueling everyone here's hate for Jessica. I dont care about that. All we should be caring about is getting to the bottom of this whole thing. Who was right IN FACT? More importantly, who the hell is Manager J and why aren't we pushing to know more about him and his intentions?

He's been at the center of this since the beginning and even the most vocal players (namely Jessica and some ex-Slayers guys) aren't talking much about him

lol? Of course you don't. You have been shitting on Crank and MMA , doing circle jerks for Jessica since the start of this problem.

And I think you don't understand the situation, when nearly everyone above my post has noticed the answer -> No one is right, everyone is wrong the only problem is who did more wrong.

hahaha...I've been "shitting on Crank and MMA" and "doing circle jerks for Jessica"? Quote me. And while your at it, calm the fuck down. We're talking about SC2 teams across the globe that you watch on your computer screen. Why are you using language like that?

This "no one is right, its just who is less wrong" is just pointless semantics. Youre saying it to sound deep and sophisticated. No I dont understand the situation, neither do you nor "nearly everyone above your post". No one understands the situation. Get off your high horse

You are getting too emotional buddy, calm down.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 24 2012 05:41 GMT
#104
Jessica may be "right" after this is all over, but it doesn't detract from the fact she can't fucking seem to avoid drama. She's all over anything even slightly controversial. And she manages to make things so dramatic.... for example the "remember there are other things I can't mention because I'm protecting someone and it could ruin their career." Like really? FFS.

Getting bored of this drama. I think regardless of the fault here (seems like Manager J), Jessica should step out of esports until she can learn to avoid drama (aka picking fights over twitter, threatening legal action, making everything seem like a gigantic shitstorm or controversy, etc.).
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#105
On October 24 2012 14:40 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:27 playa wrote:
Will someone tell me who to be mad at, already? So much anger going to waste due to confusion. F all of you guys, until someone proves their innocence.

it's all good, just email ALL the sponsors!
make sure you keep a record of all the emails too to release at a later date, and record all angry phone calls.

Only sponsor is razor.. well that would make things easier.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
October 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#106
On October 24 2012 14:40 Diamond wrote:
OMG so much bullshit, why does someone just not interview Manager J..... everyone knows who he is.....

I think only no one confirmed who he is. The community thinks it's Mister J. But what if it's not? Then we'll be framing an innocent person, just like how Jessica is framing her (ex) players.
DiuLaSing
Profile Joined August 2011
Hong Kong225 Posts
October 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#107
Manager J works for Kespa. you want drama, there u go
"You just abuse idiocy" - bad boy
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
October 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#108
Ohh BoxeR, why must your girlfriend be such a ..... well bitch
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
October 24 2012 05:42 GMT
#109
On October 24 2012 14:37 geokilla wrote:
How does Razer Korea's tweet relate to Chris' tweet? Chris says he as dealing with Jessica directly...
Chris later stated that Manager J was acting as an intermediary/translator, or at least claiming to. The Razer Korea tweet opens the possibility that Mgr. J never told Jessica at all, although her tweets seem to imply that she was at least aware of some kind of proposed deal.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
October 24 2012 05:44 GMT
#110
On October 24 2012 14:42 DiuLaSing wrote:
Manager J works for Kespa. you want drama, there u go

Are you implying that KeSPA is part of the greater conspiracy, and will get dragged into this as well?

Honestly, given everything that happened, this is not too far-fetched.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:46:42
October 24 2012 05:45 GMT
#111
Manager J's identity: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041&currentpage=18#360

On October 17 2012 22:43 Monizka wrote:

Manager J
Hui-Chul “Garfield” Jung was born in 1985 in Germany. Since 2005, Hui-Chul has been the Head Manager of Korean gaming team Lunatic-Hai. Since joining the e-sports community in 2001, Hui-Chul has witnessed e-sports become more professional, more interesting, and more prestigious. He sees the development of e-sports as a very positive and valuable experience. By joining the Revolutionary Council and helping to develop and improve the structures in e-sport, he hopes that everyone else is able to enjoy the same great experiences he did.
From KODE5

Trust it or not.

http://www.sk-gaming.com/member/Garfield
Knows German, knows English,
Description
Part of Team SlayerS
http://www.facebook.com/teamslayers

Used to be w/ Lunatic-hai back in the days
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:45:55
October 24 2012 05:45 GMT
#112
On October 24 2012 14:42 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:40 Diamond wrote:
OMG so much bullshit, why does someone just not interview Manager J..... everyone knows who he is.....

I think only no one confirmed who he is. The community thinks it's Mister J. But what if it's not? Then we'll be framing an innocent person, just like how Jessica is framing her (ex) players.

He was pretty active with SlayerS back when they took him on as their foreign relations manager and was with them for a lot of their outings (soccer outings, etc). I'm even recalling that MMA had him as their own personal translator for a few foreign events, but I can't be sure. Either way, people who had outings with SlayerS would have known who he was considering he was not a SlayerS player but wore the uniform for their various outings.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
October 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#113
New evidence:
I should probably add that the individual sponsorship offer for Boxer was also rejected at the same time. So they might have just put the entire team above individual players. Regards Chris Mitchell


Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11zew4/mma_had_personal_sponsorship_offers_oh_jessica/c6qx5wj
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myth_au
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia39 Posts
October 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#114
On October 24 2012 14:41 FabledIntegral wrote:
Jessica may be "right" after this is all over, but it doesn't detract from the fact she can't fucking seem to avoid drama. She's all over anything even slightly controversial. And she manages to make things so dramatic.... for example the "remember there are other things I can't mention because I'm protecting someone and it could ruin their career." Like really? FFS.

Getting bored of this drama. I think regardless of the fault here (seems like Manager J), Jessica should step out of esports until she can learn to avoid drama (aka picking fights over twitter, threatening legal action, making everything seem like a gigantic shitstorm or controversy, etc.).



I am shocked by this comment. Really. If you are accused of something which you know is false you have no right to rebut it?!

Really? If i said something wrong about you, you dont think its right for you to make a deal o fit?

Man some people on this thread just want thing everythign is a push over. There are times when people have to say something and make sure it comes out correct. That is why there are suits of defamation and libel claims.

So i dont think what Jessica is doing by bring this up is wrong. If she knows she hasn't doen anythign wrong and is a victim she has the right to respond. If she is wron gfine she should just shut up but give the girl a chance.

Stop being so judgmental.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#115
On October 24 2012 14:46 Kenny_oro wrote:
New evidence:
Show nested quote +
I should probably add that the individual sponsorship offer for Boxer was also rejected at the same time. So they might have just put the entire team above individual players. Regards Chris Mitchell


Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11zew4/mma_had_personal_sponsorship_offers_oh_jessica/c6qx5wj

Doesn't this mean razor korea is lying? Wtf is going on?
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
October 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#116
How could Razer Korea possibly know that J hide the deal from Jessica? Need more info on that.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
October 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#117
On October 24 2012 14:42 Grovbolle wrote:
Ohh BoxeR, why must your girlfriend be such a ..... well bitch


Missed her drama career, so better get some drama in the new one.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#118
On October 24 2012 14:47 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:42 Grovbolle wrote:
Ohh BoxeR, why must your girlfriend be such a ..... well bitch


Missed her drama career, so better get some drama in the new one.

lol..her last drama was a flop. Queen Insoo. Good lord..
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#119
Monsieur J?!
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#120
Well it looks like new information is still coming in so its hard to form a strong opinion. But this J guy is once again involved and sounds like he is a pretty sadistic and shady person.
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