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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
October 24 2012 05:57 GMT
#141
Where is Rekrul when you need him?
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:58:31
October 24 2012 05:58 GMT
#142
On October 24 2012 14:57 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:52 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:49 Fyrewolf wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:18 babylon wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:09 Fyrewolf wrote:
Wait, isn't this irrelevant? The accusations were about actually taking a personal sponsorship for mma and changing it to a personal sponsorship for boxer. The fact that she was offered a sponsorship for mma but couldn't come to an agreement with the company doesn't relate to the matter.

No, it's not irrelevant. Look at her original statement.

In particular, I was disappointed in MMA for being swayed by "J"s claim that I had 'cut' a personal sponsorship that had been offered. I was crushed and disappointed that a player I had taken care of would believe a manager who had only been on for two months, and I don't even know how much I cried. "J" tried to take MMA and some other players to make a new team, and that he would find a sponsor. The important thing is that MMA was willing to along solely on "J"s word, and he only came clean to me once I found out what was going on.

This has now been directly contradicted, because she did in fact cut a personal sponsorship that was offered, according to Razer, and MMA did in fact have reason to be suspicious. The reasons why she rejected the sponsorship don't even matter, or if they are even talking about the same sponsorship.

The drama is not about Jessica taking a sponsorship and forwarding it to Boxer; it is really about (and this is the broader umbrella) Jessica taking a sponsorship away from a player without informing that player.

That being said, if Manager J was involved as an intermediary and a translator, it is entirely possible that he mistranslated and led Jessica to reject the offer.


The paragraph just before that in the statement is what I was talking about, where the accusations of embezzling were made.
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What I found was shocking. "J" had been telling me and the sponsors different things. While he was telling me that things were going along well in a certain way, he was actually not even in contact with the sponsors at all, or handling the negotiations so poorly that they broke down.

The more ridiculous thing was that he was telling the players that I was receiving sponsorships in their names, and embezzling those funds. For certain, SlayerS was being financially and hardware wise through Boxer's personal sponsorship. The players all knew that Boxer was running the team out of own funds, and I could not understand how they could believe what that manager had to say.

In particular, I was disappointed in MMA for being swayed by "J"s claim that I had cut off a personal sponsorship that had been offered.


Razer Korea confirmed anyway that J didn't tell Jessica about it, which we probably could have already assumed since jessica said he was telling her and the sponsors different things. J really seems to have made a giant mess of things(along with, to a slightly lesser extent, everyone else).

Chris mitchell's latest tweet denies that Jessica didn't know about it though.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11zew4/mma_had_personal_sponsorship_offers_oh_jessica/c6qx5wj
It was rejected, the only people who can reject it are Jessica or boxer being the owners. So they did know about it


Why are you linking a reddit thread that says nothing about that as evidence? It says "I should probably add that the individual sponsorship offer for Boxer was also rejected at the same time. So they might have just put the entire team above individual players. Regards Chris Mitchell". That hasn't said anything about the razor korea tweet, who rejected it, or whether J actually told jessica about it.

because he said he talked with Jessica directly and the only ones who can reject deals are the owners, AKA boxer or jessica, And razer korea tweet has been deleted. -_-
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
October 24 2012 05:58 GMT
#143
On October 24 2012 14:54 storywriter wrote:
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On October 24 2012 14:22 storywriter wrote:
Razer|MidNight ‏@Razer_MidNight
@SlayerS_Jessica Razer Korea 김준희입니다. 이 부분은 저희 본사 이스포츠팀 크리스과 슬레이어스 J매니져 사이에서 발생한 일이며, J매니저가 악의를 가지고 구단주인 김가연씨에게 저희 제안을 전달하지 않은 것으로 확인 되었습니다.

Translation: This is Kim, Joon Hee from Razer Korea. Razer headquarters have confirmed that this deal occured between Chris Mitchell and Manager J but Manager J, out of ill intent, deliberately kept it hidden from former owner of Slayers, Kim, Ja Yeon (Jessica)

Razer Korea seems to have deleted this tweet now


Surprised if they get out of this unscathed.This is a giant exercise in message discipline and it seems like some part of the marketing department is out of sync.
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dongmydrum
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States139 Posts
October 24 2012 05:58 GMT
#144
So the facts are
1. Manager J lied to all parties
2. MMA falling victim to J's lies
3. Jessica felt betrayed by MMA because he believed J's story over Jessica's and
acted without confirming J's story

It seems pretty clear to me I don't know why people say its confusing.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
October 24 2012 05:59 GMT
#145
On October 24 2012 14:55 DiuLaSing wrote:
so at the end...it's really simple...who is the winner after all this shit storm.

Federation - president resigned
Boxer - lost a team
Jessica - lost $ and team
MMA, Alicia, Crank - potential lawsuit
Manager J - who knows
Kespa - more ex-slayers player, boxer as SKT1 Coach, and people now lose faith in Federation
LoL - get puzzle and Coca

so...GO!


kespa
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
October 24 2012 05:59 GMT
#146
More drama...

you've got to be kidding me...
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 24 2012 05:59 GMT
#147
I should have stocked up on more popcorn -_-
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 06:00:13
October 24 2012 05:59 GMT
#148
On October 24 2012 14:58 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:54 storywriter wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:22 storywriter wrote:
Razer|MidNight ‏@Razer_MidNight
@SlayerS_Jessica Razer Korea 김준희입니다. 이 부분은 저희 본사 이스포츠팀 크리스과 슬레이어스 J매니져 사이에서 발생한 일이며, J매니저가 악의를 가지고 구단주인 김가연씨에게 저희 제안을 전달하지 않은 것으로 확인 되었습니다.

Translation: This is Kim, Joon Hee from Razer Korea. Razer headquarters have confirmed that this deal occured between Chris Mitchell and Manager J but Manager J, out of ill intent, deliberately kept it hidden from former owner of Slayers, Kim, Ja Yeon (Jessica)

Razer Korea seems to have deleted this tweet now


Surprised if they get out of this unscathed.This is a giant exercise in message discipline and it seems like some part of the marketing department is out of sync.

It could also be that more than 1 deal was offered, at different times by different people.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:59 GMT
#149
On October 24 2012 14:59 SeeKeR wrote:
More drama...

you've got to be kidding me...

Saviour has arrived!
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
October 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#150
On October 24 2012 14:17 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm



"To clarify: The proposal was rejected. but i dont know how it's been translated by "Manager J". Both were copied."


and there it is. so he did tell both, but chances are, jessica left it to manager J to translate, and probably could've misconstrued it, and then manipulated jessica or Mitchel into thinking there was a no deal. THEN turned it around and told MMA that jessica turned down his personal sponsor.

manager J strikes again.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#151
On October 24 2012 14:58 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:54 storywriter wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:22 storywriter wrote:
Razer|MidNight ‏@Razer_MidNight
@SlayerS_Jessica Razer Korea 김준희입니다. 이 부분은 저희 본사 이스포츠팀 크리스과 슬레이어스 J매니져 사이에서 발생한 일이며, J매니저가 악의를 가지고 구단주인 김가연씨에게 저희 제안을 전달하지 않은 것으로 확인 되었습니다.

Translation: This is Kim, Joon Hee from Razer Korea. Razer headquarters have confirmed that this deal occured between Chris Mitchell and Manager J but Manager J, out of ill intent, deliberately kept it hidden from former owner of Slayers, Kim, Ja Yeon (Jessica)

Razer Korea seems to have deleted this tweet now


Surprised if they get out of this unscathed.This is a giant exercise in message discipline and it seems like some part of the marketing department is out of sync.

Think about it, MMA or the woman of Boxer. Who would you support?
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
October 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#152
I think this just pushed me over the edge into quitting SC2 and playing a game that seems to be stupid: LoL...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#153
On October 24 2012 14:59 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:55 DiuLaSing wrote:
so at the end...it's really simple...who is the winner after all this shit storm.

Federation - president resigned
Boxer - lost a team
Jessica - lost $ and team
MMA, Alicia, Crank - potential lawsuit
Manager J - who knows
Kespa - more ex-slayers player, boxer as SKT1 Coach, and people now lose faith in Federation
LoL - get puzzle and Coca

so...GO!


kespa


manager J? More like kespa saboteur J mirite
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 06:01 GMT
#154
Can we get Rekrul to make a thread explaining how manager J worked for Kespa all along and attempted to destroy ESF so they could take over the world( of starcraft ) and get it over with?
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 24 2012 06:01 GMT
#155
what's the north korean connection? There has to be one, it's the only sensible explanation
storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
October 24 2012 06:01 GMT
#156
On October 24 2012 14:57 Waxangel wrote:
DELETED?

i swear i didn't make it up lol
Translator
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 24 2012 06:02 GMT
#157
On October 24 2012 14:58 dongmydrum wrote:
So the facts are
1. Manager J lied to all parties
2. MMA falling victim to J's lies
3. Jessica felt betrayed by MMA because he believed J's story over Jessica's and
acted without confirming J's story

It seems pretty clear to me I don't know why people say its confusing.


This is probably one of the only things people can say about this whole incident with any certainty.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#158
Im waiting for someone to actually make a game called DramaCraft.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#159
On October 24 2012 15:01 storywriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:57 Waxangel wrote:
DELETED?

i swear i didn't make it up lol


you are the storywriter afterall.....
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DiuLaSing
Profile Joined August 2011
Hong Kong225 Posts
October 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#160
On October 24 2012 15:01 Dodgin wrote:
Can we get Rekrul to make a thread explaining how manager J worked for Kespa all along and attempted to destroy ESF so they could take over the world( of starcraft ) and get it over with?


and LoL so they could get Coca and Puzzle
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