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Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:30:40
October 24 2012 05:06 GMT
#21
oh my.... MMA should sue Jessica Manager J for every benefit, guaranteed and potential, from the rejected sponsorship. That is just not cool.

Even worse though.... another drama llama thread T.T;;; I wish all this would just go away.

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contradicted myself, I know
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 24 2012 05:07 GMT
#22
On October 24 2012 14:01 Fionn wrote:
So is this going to end up like Fight Club? Manager J and Jessica were the same person all along?

Haha.
Moderatorlickypiddy
epicanthic
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong295 Posts
October 24 2012 05:07 GMT
#23
Might as well make Starcraft into a TV series, what with all the ridiculous plot twists and daily doses of drama.
LOcDowN
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1015 Posts
October 24 2012 05:07 GMT
#24
MMA's personal sponsorship was rejected by Jessica. A very unfortunate situation for MMA and a terrible mistake by Jessica. I don't see how she can explain herself on any grounds. MMA was a person she managed, so when he was offered the personal sponsorship she should have been caring/loving enough to accept it without a doubt.

A terrible person she is. A terrible manager.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 24 2012 05:09 GMT
#25
Wait, isn't this irrelevant? The accusations were about actually taking a personal sponsorship for mma and changing it to a personal sponsorship for boxer. The fact that she was offered a sponsorship for mma but couldn't come to an agreement with the company doesn't relate to the matter.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 24 2012 05:09 GMT
#26
Dramacraft! Where the drama surrounding esport actually has more action than your average sc2 game!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 24 2012 05:10 GMT
#27
Anyone wanna translate Jessica's 3 latest tweets? I think they have something to do with this.

https://twitter.com/SlayerS_Jessica
Moderatorlickypiddy
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
October 24 2012 05:10 GMT
#28
Before everyone jumps to conclusions I'm just going to repeat my post from the other thread...

Why did... indeed, why would Jessica refuse the sponsorship? Did she think it was too little, did it conflict with one of Slayers' sponsors, was it a miscommunication of some kind, or what? Although I agree that she has not proven herself to be a good manager, she doesn't seem like she would just reject this sponsorship out of spite or whatever. Yet again, everyone should wait for the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions and rushing to attack the "other side"...

Also. the later tweets by the Razer guy indicate that manager J was acting as an intermediary/translator. So if he was really as shady as Jessica claims, then...?
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
October 24 2012 05:11 GMT
#29
to everyone saying this is drama, is this actually drama? its a pretty big issue with serious accusations . i feel like drama is more liek "i tink dis guy is maphacking plz evereyon check" and it gets blown into a huge 100 page topic
Maruprime.
AndyVN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:14:02
October 24 2012 05:12 GMT
#30
xiaopewpew:
Of course it matters. Because we know nothing about this very sponsorship. And Jessica might have reached an agreement with MMA to turn it down and did it on his behalf. Im saying MIGHT here. Really there is no information and you guys are drawing to a conclusion too quick. What Christ says might mean a lot, and it might also mean nothing. If only there are information like when this sponsorship was given, it is going to help the situation a lot. But nothing!

Also, there is actually a part in Jessica's first account on the matter how Slayers lost all the sponsors. I believe she said manager J was meddling with the negotiation giving sponsors ridiculous terms and stuff. Obviously when you delegate such negotiation to a questionable character ( YES YES YES J might be a good guy but just follow the logic here), this guy might have told Jessica that the sponsors are asking for ridiculous stuff too ! Maybe thats why the sponsorship was turned down?

Lastly, Razor announced withdrawal of sponsorship to slayers 19 June. If the personal offer was made after that, Jessica has perfect reason to reject it as most likely the offer will now allow any competitor to sponsor MMA( team sponsorship should be included, MMA cannot wear competitor's logo and stuff right?). As a manager, I believe the smart thing to do is to turn it down, so that it is possible to find interested competitor of Razor to sponsor the whole team ! And MMA as a member of the team, has to make certain necessary sacrifice.

Im not trying to defend Jessica and Boxer, just saying, do not jump to conclusion too fast. The mud may be much deeper than you thought.


---
I got this from Xiaopewpew from page 99 on Crank and MMA's accounts topic. Just want point things out that you all should not jump to conclusions because Razor only tweeted a few words. We don't have an actual statement from Razor or of a direct explanation of this separate case.

The waters are still murky at this point.
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
October 24 2012 05:13 GMT
#31
On October 24 2012 14:11 Corrosive wrote:
to everyone saying this is drama, is this actually drama? its a pretty big issue with serious accusations . i feel like drama is more liek "i tink dis guy is maphacking plz evereyon check" and it gets blown into a huge 100 page topic


If we can reach 200 pages discussing who is more "spoiled," "entitled," or "bitchy," then yeah that's some pretty good drama.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
October 24 2012 05:13 GMT
#32
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE
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Haze.884
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand192 Posts
October 24 2012 05:13 GMT
#33
Jessica just tweeted that she has proof & statement for countering this statement.. so... more drama shitstorm incoming!
a
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:19:44
October 24 2012 05:13 GMT
#34
On October 24 2012 14:10 bduddy wrote:
Before everyone jumps to conclusions I'm just going to repeat my post from the other thread...

Why did... indeed, why would Jessica refuse the sponsorship? Did she think it was too little, did it conflict with one of Slayers' sponsors, was it a miscommunication of some kind, or what? Although I agree that she has not proven herself to be a good manager, she doesn't seem like she would just reject this sponsorship out of spite or whatever. Yet again, everyone should wait for the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions and rushing to attack the "other side"...

Also. the later tweets by the Razer guy indicate that manager J was acting as an intermediary/translator. So if he was really as shady as Jessica claims, then...?


it appears he did in fact mention Mr 'J', interesting...
did you read the script?
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
October 24 2012 05:14 GMT
#35
On October 24 2012 14:12 AndyVN wrote:
xiaopewpew:
Show nested quote +
Of course it matters. Because we know nothing about this very sponsorship. And Jessica might have reached an agreement with MMA to turn it down and did it on his behalf. Im saying MIGHT here. Really there is no information and you guys are drawing to a conclusion too quick. What Christ says might mean a lot, and it might also mean nothing. If only there are information like when this sponsorship was given, it is going to help the situation a lot. But nothing!

Also, there is actually a part in Jessica's first account on the matter how Slayers lost all the sponsors. I believe she said manager J was meddling with the negotiation giving sponsors ridiculous terms and stuff. Obviously when you delegate such negotiation to a questionable character ( YES YES YES J might be a good guy but just follow the logic here), this guy might have told Jessica that the sponsors are asking for ridiculous stuff too ! Maybe thats why the sponsorship was turned down?

Lastly, Razor announced withdrawal of sponsorship to slayers 19 June. If the personal offer was made after that, Jessica has perfect reason to reject it as most likely the offer will now allow any competitor to sponsor MMA( team sponsorship should be included, MMA cannot wear competitor's logo and stuff right?). As a manager, I believe the smart thing to do is to turn it down, so that it is possible to find interested competitor of Razor to sponsor the whole team ! And MMA as a member of the team, has to make certain necessary sacrifice.

Im not trying to defend Jessica and Boxer, just saying, do not jump to conclusion too fast. The mud may be much deeper than you thought.


---
I got this from Xiaopewpew from page 99 on Crank and MMA's accounts topic. Just want point things out that you all should not jump to conclusions because Razor only tweeted a few words. We don't have an actual statement from Razor or of a direct explanation of this separate case.


Thing is, a lot of that post is no more than speculation like 90% of that thread is.

What we have here is actual fact. MMA was indeed offered a sponsorship and Jessica indeed turn it down. She was caught in a lie based on what she has said.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 05:15 GMT
#36
On October 24 2012 14:13 Haze.884 wrote:
Jessica just tweeted that she has proof & statement for countering this statement.. so... more drama shitstorm incoming!

wow, she is really fast to reply
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:17:11
October 24 2012 05:16 GMT
#37
On October 24 2012 14:13 Haze.884 wrote:
Jessica just tweeted that she has proof & statement for countering this statement.. so... more drama shitstorm incoming!

I don't think it matters anymore, at least not for me. The whole thing shifted from "everyone has a good share of blame, but Jessica perhaps a bit more" to "Jessica is evil" already, and I don't think many things will change that. (Well, it happened when Crank's call was recorded, but this cements it for me.)
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 24 2012 05:17 GMT
#38
I was getting pretty tired of the drama but this is a pretty big deal ;o
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:17:34
October 24 2012 05:17 GMT
#39
Hmmm



"To clarify: The proposal was rejected. but i dont know how it's been translated by "Manager J". Both were copied."
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 24 2012 05:18 GMT
#40
Did you really have to make a new thread...?
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