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On October 23 2012 15:06 Kingsky wrote:
oh come on seriously? i pretty much believe theres a reason why jessica and boxer's team have so much trust from the koreans. jessica might be a drama queen but she already made like 2 people who challenged her apologize so im pretty much still on her side
Oh, forcing apologies is winning is it? From the moment she began blaming, most everyone became losers.
Q: Is there anything else you wish to say?
A: I am really tired now. The essence is that this is who I am. Even if one is a sworn enemy, I do not abandon him or her if one accepts his or her mistake. I would even forgive him or her. But not like this interview. It only reveals deeper truth. There are still more to be revealed than what was already revealed. I didn't reveal everything and showed only this much because I was afraid that remaining fans will leave the scene when more is revealed. If you have no evidence to back your claims, accept your mistakes and apologize. Then I will forget everything and forgive you.
Her final thoughts go out to "sworn enemies" and MMA's were to show gratitude. Yes, MMA did follow that with a final note of clearing up distortions. Her final note was yet another, "I still have aces up my sleeve if you try and relatiate." It's the essence of Jessica alright.
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On October 23 2012 15:04 Xxavi wrote:Again, reading her. I feel like vomiting. I just know that type... We can see that MMA always felt much more comfortable talking to Crank, J, Boxer, Cella whoever just not the drama queen. Reading the whole story, I am not even sure if MMA should apologiza or Jessica. I'd say the latter, but again, she wants to sit on a high horse, being right, as usual, surrounded by enemies and bastards.
Yeah it's obnoxious, but only because her enemies actually were being bastards. If she has no actual ammo and she's actually wrong, there wouldn't be an issue. No matter how obnoxious she is, she's right and she go for where the enemy's the weakest. People who deal with Jessica should just make sure they don't do dumb shit in the first place, and apologize before things go out of control.
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On October 23 2012 15:06 Kingsky wrote:
oh come on seriously? i pretty much believe theres a reason why jessica and boxer's team have so much trust from the koreans. jessica might be a drama queen but she already made like 2 people who challenged her apologize so im pretty much still on her side
What do you mean she made 2 people apologize? Is that a feat? As a man, I hate women who go on looking for people. I have seen women who make men apologize for nothing, in fact, at times, even if they are at fault.
I don't know if you are a fan of getting into a shouting match with a lady. I say "whatever, yours is true" or say nothing.
Ridiculous reasoning you have there. I am 100% sure that this is one of the reasons why players didn't like talking to her, it's because she was always looking for getting an upper hand and proving herself right, rather than fecking listen to the players.
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On October 23 2012 15:10 Xxavi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 15:06 Kingsky wrote:
oh come on seriously? i pretty much believe theres a reason why jessica and boxer's team have so much trust from the koreans. jessica might be a drama queen but she already made like 2 people who challenged her apologize so im pretty much still on her side What do you mean she made 2 people apologize? Is that a feat? As a man, I hate women who go on looking for people. I have seen women who make men apologize for nothing, in fact, at times, even if they are at fault. I don't know if you are a fan of getting into a shouting match with a lady. I say "whatever, yours is true" or say nothing. Ridiculous reasoning you have there. I am 100% sure that this is one of the reasons why players didn't like talking to her, it's because she was always looking for getting an upper hand and proving herself right, rather than fecking listen to the players.
Probably true, but even if she's acting very vindictively here that doesn't mean she's wrong about what happened. She's probably not going to win over any foreign fans simply because they will always hate her regardless of how right or wrong she is.
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On October 23 2012 14:11 banzaiib wrote:
but honestly - f***, everybody would survive if MMA played another game wit a pimple, why trying to instruct boxer on the strategies, Yoko Ono?[/QUOTE]
WTF did I just read?
Also, sounds like a bunch of pointless drama that could have been dealt with by effectively communicating... one good successful team meeting... bam... get it all out there, deal with the issues, and get back to focusing on the games at hand... but no... maybe it's cultural differences, maybe it's the fact that they're young, I dunno, but little if any of that giant wall of text in the OP seemed professional.[/QUOTE]
Everybody is clever - afterwards! Anyway - God Bless You Captain Hindsight!! ))
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On October 23 2012 15:10 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 15:04 Xxavi wrote:Again, reading her. I feel like vomiting. I just know that type... We can see that MMA always felt much more comfortable talking to Crank, J, Boxer, Cella whoever just not the drama queen. Reading the whole story, I am not even sure if MMA should apologiza or Jessica. I'd say the latter, but again, she wants to sit on a high horse, being right, as usual, surrounded by enemies and bastards. Yeah it's obnoxious, but only because her enemies actually were being bastards. If she has no actual ammo and she's actually wrong, there wouldn't be an issue. No matter how obnoxious she is, she's right and she go for where the enemy's the weakest. People who deal with Jessica should just make sure they don't do dumb shit in the first place, and apologize before things go out of control.
Sorry, this post is a bit incoherent. Why are players becoming bastards? Do you think all Slayers team was full of bastards? Is there a fecking gray area in life or is it white and black? Obviously the only white person being Jessica, as she sees herself?
What do you mean people should apologize to her? They don't have to do that, but I totally understand why they do it. Nobody wants to get into a shit throwing competition with a drama queen.
Jessica's attitude, and the way players feel about actually tells more than whatever shit she wrote anywhere. If you are demanding respect and apology from your own team, it means you have done a lot of shit wrong.
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Wax I have a suggestion. Include the "SlayerS disbands" thread in the op and rename the thread "Slayers situation" or something.
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re: Jessica's interview....
Every time something gets raised about an issue with management, she doesn't answer the question itself directly but goes off on a tangent about how generous she is. Any problem has to do with someone else. Absolute classic inability to accept responsibility.
It's about a balance of probabilities to me. What is a more likely source of problems, a single manager who has been shown to have issues with blame, accepting responsibility, and dealing with people (i.e. extreme self-image issues impacting an ability to think rationally about issues since said person cannot, in their own self-image be 'wrong' about anything), or, several different players all spontaneously lying and spreading problems for their own greedy, nefarious, but unexplained purposes in such a way so as to implicate a manager and make it look like issues with said manager being unable to accept responsibility/have emotional outbursts/be generally unsuited to managing people in a way that fits with said managers past?
I'm sure there are a range of factors that led into this, but I know where I think a large portion of the responsibility sits. The picture is absolutely crystal clear to me.
It's just so sad, tragic, and disgusting all at the same time too. I feel so bad for BoxeR and the rest of the team. I even feel sorry for her. She shouldn't be allowed anywhere near any kind of management responsibilities for her own, and everyone else's good.
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This just gets worse and worse doesnt it
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On October 23 2012 15:14 Supamang wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 15:10 Xxavi wrote:On October 23 2012 15:06 Kingsky wrote:
oh come on seriously? i pretty much believe theres a reason why jessica and boxer's team have so much trust from the koreans. jessica might be a drama queen but she already made like 2 people who challenged her apologize so im pretty much still on her side What do you mean she made 2 people apologize? Is that a feat? As a man, I hate women who go on looking for people. I have seen women who make men apologize for nothing, in fact, at times, even if they are at fault. I don't know if you are a fan of getting into a shouting match with a lady. I say "whatever, yours is true" or say nothing. Ridiculous reasoning you have there. I am 100% sure that this is one of the reasons why players didn't like talking to her, it's because she was always looking for getting an upper hand and proving herself right, rather than fecking listen to the players. Probably true, but even if she's acting very vindictively here that doesn't mean she's wrong about what happened. She's probably not going to win over any foreign fans simply because they will always hate her regardless of how right or wrong she is.
What do you mean by specifying foreign fans? Look, MMA is Korean too, nationality here means nothing to me. In fact, I was looking for movies with her, preferably with sensual scenes in it, I must admit. Couldn't find anything.
But I tell you what, the stuff that I kept reading from her interviews made me just not see her anything but a drama queen. She may have some truth in her claims and demands, but being a drama queen implies its a very small fraction.
Look, Boxer is an example to her. He is also the founder and owner of the team, and I am yet to see anything like what Jessica has been doing. All along. She was even having arguments with Korean netizens, that's how she is into this shit,.
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and we haven't heard anything from Boxer.
imo, Boxer is the final truth. Probably too much was stuff was influence in the SlayerS house by Jessica which eventually is the downfall of the team
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In the end, everyone loses. 
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I feel for all the slayers players but also for Boxer. Its just a bad situation that I don't think we have seen the last off.
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Yes, for the love of god, we need more of this bullshit.
I think some drama every now and then is honestly fun and healthy for the community (it stirs up controversy, brings some more eyes on the community, just is something outside of pure games) but this is fucking ridiculous. SlayerS is done, which makes me very depressed, but it ended because it just didnt work between players and management, let it fucking end.
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On October 23 2012 15:24 Azurues wrote:
imo, Boxer is the final truth.
he can't talk negatively about Jessica in public. I would guess he won't say anything at all. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for him if she were to push him to make some kind of public statement.
On October 23 2012 15:25 Balgrog wrote:
Yes, for the love of god, we need more of this bullshit.
I think some drama every now and then is honestly fun and healthy for the community (it stirs up controversy, brings some more eyes on the community, just is something outside of pure games) but this is fucking ridiculous. SlayerS is done, which makes me very depressed, but it ended because it just didnt work between players and management, let it fucking end.
give it a couple/few days.
As a general rule, we need to de-stigmatize drama (and it'll happen eventually because there's very little that can stop it). The public discussion forum is here to stay. People are commiserating. It's just a bigger circle.
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Q: MMA said BoxeR's reason for halting his gaming career was because of Jessica's internal/external interferences.
A: Back then BoxeR tended to get angry very easily whenever he lost a game in the practice. I contacted him about matters unrelated to gaming, and he took it out on me and said I was preventing him from practicing. Then BoxeR said he was exhausted and perhaps in need of a break [from gaming]. MMA basically falsely incriminated me. BoxeR gave up on his career because of other players.
BoxeR is not a type of person to side with me because I am his girlfriend. Although I do feel sad about it but he's always fair. He always listens to both sides before deciding. He even once said that 'I feel like people are attacking [me] because I play StarCraft 2.'
Also I cannot say anything about his games. All I could say in GSTL was something like, 'The opponent seems to be all-ining so let's attack him first.' I sometimes commented on things for fun, but I do not even ask him how things are going with the practice. Even if I ask, his mouth is too heavy to spare any words, even with me.
So looks like MMA might actually be right on this point about Boxer. Of course Boxer will never admit it even if true, since Jessica is her fiance obviously.
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On October 23 2012 15:26 caradoc wrote:he can't talk negatively about Jessica in public. I would guess he won't say anything at all. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for him if she were to push him to make some kind of public statement.
It's probably smarter for Boxer to stay out of this. He has a good career now. If he sides with Jessica openly about this, people will just call him biased. If he doesn't side with Jessica, he's gonna lose his personal life. If Jessica is not forcing Boxer to make a public statement, there's no reason for him to do so.
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Okay, MMA already apologized profusely, so ... he should just not respond to Jessica. There's literally no point to him doing so. She'll just keep insisting on stuff, and MMA will just keep insisting on stuff, and whatever, he said, she said. Take the MC route. Just shut up and go practice and finalize your contract with your new team, lol.
Crank should just .... not talk either. Stand by your statement, but don't make any new ones, and don't give Jessica any more reason to rail on you. I hope TB advises Crank on this.
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