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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
Sure, funding for tournaments and financial support for players would not be possible without sponsors, and management can certainly help to facilitate a players needs... but it all starts with the willpower, dedication, and passion of the players. Best of luck to MMA and Crank. | ||
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shockaslim
United States1105 Posts
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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:36 tMomiji wrote: Curses!! XD Well I'm off to sleep now, and I hope this does cool down. ...I just realized this is my 666th post. So I guess I'll do something. -ahem- Let us all follow in Shival's example and remain level-headed and reasonable in this discussion. Let us not flame one another, because every time you flame someone, Liquid`HerO cries. ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5reK3eCQAA3aid.jpg) Please think of Liquid`HerO. ...Or something. (Gosh I hope he doesn't mind me reposting this, but he already posted it on his twitter so...) Have a good night! | ||
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lambac0re
United States77 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:36 QTIP. wrote: Even in muddled situations like this where both parties have made mistakes and are jointly responsible for a degrading relationship, I still sympathize with the players more than team management/sponsors. It's the people that are practicing the game 10 hours a day and chasing their dreams against an unfathomable amount of competition that get my vote. Sure, funding for tournaments and financial support for players would not be possible without sponsors, and management can certainly help to facilitate a players needs... but it all starts with the willpower, dedication, and passion of the players. Best of luck to MMA and Crank. Boxer is the epitome of chasing one's dream. MMA and Crank, especially Crank, all I can say is that they were chasing money. | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On October 23 2012 05:34 Waxangel wrote: There's no new 'facts' in the phone call, it's pretty much just an issue of whether you think Crank was excessively rude or justified. And how can anyone decide this from an isolated call, not knowing any context of their private history. Added onto that, a history of players not getting along well with Jessica at all, for all of SlayerS' career it seems. Why do we never hear about anything like from ST, IM, EG, mouz, etc.? Why is 90% of Korean drama Jessica-centric and the other 10% from TSL/Coach Lee? It CANNOT be coincidence, with such consistency over the YEARS, literal years, that this has been going on. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
Okay. Assuming i did get something wrong, which may be - just clear it up then. Whats your view on what i said? No, it was about the psychological benefits of "living extravagantly" (or to be more general, about the players' level of comfort). Which I said I'd take into account only if it matches what actually happens in the world of Starcraft. Meh, this thread is slowly losing its entertainment value. Actually, here youre right. I mixed up enviroment (as in nice house) and enviroment. I saw living extravagant = good enviroment. My bad. Edit: meh, im too bad at multiquoting -.- | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
What I got from it is that Jessica is evil. | ||
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norjoncal
89 Posts
Jessica releases phone conversion TB hijacks WOW Insiders feed on WOW Radio and goes off on Turpster and WOW Insider. | ||
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Herry
England681 Posts
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:33 Golbat wrote: I knew Jessica was just twisting the truth. I'm glad that it's all come out, but i'm sad that it had to end this way. I hope that this isn't the end of Boxer's playing career though. That would be the worst of all. Jessica twisting the thruth? ESF admitted the boycott. Head coach stepped down. Alicia is a known liar now. MMA believed Manager J, even after he had a clearing talk with Boxer who explained the situation to him. MMA also didnt pay his own personal coach (Coach Ryu) the agreed upon share. Keep in mind that he (MMA) also introduced Coach Ryu as his own personal coach (so it's not that SlayerS hired Coach Ryu and assigned him to MMA). Crank lied to get out of SlayerS (see Cella's statement for reinforcement). He also acted immature, disrespectful and rude towards Jessica (like she said). Crank complained (multiple times) to Jessica & Boxer that the atmosphere in the team was bad. They promised to change it but nothing happened. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:33 Golbat wrote: I knew Jessica was just twisting the truth. I'm glad that it's all come out, but i'm sad that it had to end this way. I hope that this isn't the end of Boxer's playing career though. That would be the worst of all. I don't get why everything Jessica said now is wrong just because these 2 say something different BUT ok. | ||
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Goshdarnit
United States540 Posts
On October 23 2012 05:26 tubs wrote: It's sad for me to say this, but in the past few weeks, the only interesting things to me in SC2 were the rise of a new star in SKT Rain, and this Slayers drama. Really interested in the translation of the phone call, whenever it arrives. Man was that whole Life thing boring. GSL royal roaders an championships are always a snorefest, right guys? | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:44 Goshdarnit wrote: Man was that whole Life thing boring. GSL royal roaders an championships are always a snorefest, right guys? That was the first GSL championships I actually stayed up all night to watch!! And the main thing that kept me awake was + Show Spoiler + wanting to see if MVP was actually going to mech EVERY game! lol | ||
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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:41 m4inbrain wrote: Okay. Assuming i did get something wrong, which may be - just clear it up then. Whats your view on what i said? Actually, here youre right. I mixed up enviroment (as in nice house) and enviroment. I saw living extravagant = good enviroment. My bad. Edit: meh, im too bad at multiquoting -.- If I may weigh in on the situation, as they are my words. "Living extravagantly" means both actually, both a good environment and the players comfort. Why I wrote extravagantly is because they were living extravagantly compared to the other SC2 korean teams out there. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:44 Goshdarnit wrote: Man was that whole Life thing boring. GSL royal roaders an championships are always a snorefest, right guys? Who? Trolololololol | ||
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gLFu_Ayr
United States23 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:43 rasers wrote: I don't get why everything Jessica said now is wrong just because these 2 say something different BUT ok. GOLBAT used CONFUSE RAY! But it failed! | ||
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lambac0re
United States77 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:41 Disengaged wrote: Well, after reading. What I got from it is that Jessica is evil. Alright, comments like this are really starting to irk me. Let's take a look at Slayers history. Boxer founded the team with Jessica's support. There are multiple documented sources that suggest that if it weren't for Jessica, Boxer wouldn't even have switched into SC2. Let's also not forget all the success that Slayers has achieved - including TWO GSTL championships, a feat that no team has yet been able to duplicate. Who was the manager of the team during all this time? That's right Jessica. Even when times got tough and and shit started hitting the fan, when Boxer wanted to quit completely, who was it that suggested he transfer to SK Telecom T1 to recover his passion? That's right Jessica again. From Cella's tweets, when the team started to go downhill and players were leaving en masse, Boxer and Jessica made it a point to take care of him, asking him if he would like their help in finding a new job - he refused because Cella felt it was his responsibility to look after the players. In short for all you Jessica haters out there, Slayers wouldn't even have been possible without her, and here you all her blaming her exclusively for it's downfall. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:46 Shival wrote: If I may weigh in on the situation, as they are my words. "Living extravagantly" means both actually, both a good environment and the players comfort. Why I wrote extravagantly is because they were living extravagantly compared to the other SC2 korean teams out there. You again. ^^ Im getting lost now, i dont even know if i got something wrong now. Maybe i should just let it rest and watch the rest of the Day9daily, then go to sleep. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On October 23 2012 11:43 Zocat wrote: Jessica twisting the thruth? ESF admitted the boycott. Head coach stepped down. Alicia is a known liar now. MMA believed Manager J, even after he had a clearing talk with Boxer who explained the situation to him. MMA also didnt pay his own personal coach (Coach Ryu) the agreed upon share. Keep in mind that he (MMA) also introduced Coach Ryu as his own personal coach (so it's not that SlayerS hired Coach Ryu and assigned him to MMA). Crank lied to get out of SlayerS (see Cella's statement for reinforcement). He also acted immature, disrespectful and rude towards Jessica (like she said). Crank complained (multiple times) to Jessica & Boxer that the atmosphere in the team was bad. They promised to change it but nothing happened. It's interesting that Jessica didn't mention the thing with Coach Ryu Won before. I wonder what the actual truth is, not as told by her. | ||
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