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On October 21 2012 23:28 Salazarz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:24 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:22 sashkata wrote:On October 21 2012 23:19 Salazarz wrote:On October 21 2012 23:14 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:05 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:03 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:02 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:00 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 22:56 Shival wrote:
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Such an ignorant statement. Some highlights from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SlayerS:....SlayerS (Korean: 슬레이어스, known officially in English as "SlayerS Clan") is a professional StarCraft 2 team created by BoxeR. ...
...August 16th, BoxeR, the original founder of both teams, leaves SlayerS to rejoin SK Telecom T1 as a coach...[21] she is the co founder who funded the team and managed the team from the get go Nope, she owned the team but Boxer was the founder, you said that Jessica founded the team which is not true. Boxer was the founder of the team. is it so hard to grasp the concept of two people founding something? Again, Jessica was not the founder of Slayers: She was, alongside with Boxer. Stop talking out of your ass. Watch out! He might quote liquipedia again! On Axiom's statement: I do think TB did the right thing. I think the team should almost always stand behind their players. It's unfortunate that they will get a lot of hate from the Korean scene even though that is who they are trying to help the most. I was about to quote again actually, but I guess its no use. And ya, I wonder how the Korean scene has reacted, it must be 100 times worse over there. You do realize that not every fact is included in liquipedia, nor all of it is 100% accurate, right? I don't even understand why are you trying to argue this point further seeing as you obviously don't have first-hand knowledge of whether Jessica was involved in Slayers' creation or not, and your only source is liquipedia which, while useful, is obviously not the be-all end-all of SC facts.
at least I included something that could be considered as fact.
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On October 21 2012 23:31 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:28 Salazarz wrote:On October 21 2012 23:24 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:22 sashkata wrote:On October 21 2012 23:19 Salazarz wrote:On October 21 2012 23:14 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:05 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:03 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:02 farnham wrote:she is the co founder who funded the team and managed the team from the get go Nope, she owned the team but Boxer was the founder, you said that Jessica founded the team which is not true. Boxer was the founder of the team. is it so hard to grasp the concept of two people founding something? Again, Jessica was not the founder of Slayers: She was, alongside with Boxer. Stop talking out of your ass. Watch out! He might quote liquipedia again! On Axiom's statement: I do think TB did the right thing. I think the team should almost always stand behind their players. It's unfortunate that they will get a lot of hate from the Korean scene even though that is who they are trying to help the most. I was about to quote again actually, but I guess its no use. And ya, I wonder how the Korean scene has reacted, it must be 100 times worse over there. You do realize that not every fact is included in liquipedia, nor all of it is 100% accurate, right? I don't even understand why are you trying to argue this point further seeing as you obviously don't have first-hand knowledge of whether Jessica was involved in Slayers' creation or not, and your only source is liquipedia which, while useful, is obviously not the be-all end-all of SC facts. at least I included something that could be considered as fact.
No it's exactly something that cannot be considered as fact. If you were to look up the source for it, it's a tweet from BoxeR that he is starting a Slayers team. Never did he say who the founder(s) are. Liquipedia assumes it's solely BoxeR because he tweeted it, but that's of course ridiculous. In Boxer Wings you can see that Jessica has been involved from the very start, thus a co-founder.
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So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely.
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On October 21 2012 23:35 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:31 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:28 Salazarz wrote:On October 21 2012 23:24 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:22 sashkata wrote:On October 21 2012 23:19 Salazarz wrote:On October 21 2012 23:14 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:05 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:03 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:02 farnham wrote:
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she is the co founder who funded the team and managed the team from the get go Nope, she owned the team but Boxer was the founder, you said that Jessica founded the team which is not true. Boxer was the founder of the team. is it so hard to grasp the concept of two people founding something? Again, Jessica was not the founder of Slayers: She was, alongside with Boxer. Stop talking out of your ass. Watch out! He might quote liquipedia again! On Axiom's statement: I do think TB did the right thing. I think the team should almost always stand behind their players. It's unfortunate that they will get a lot of hate from the Korean scene even though that is who they are trying to help the most. I was about to quote again actually, but I guess its no use. And ya, I wonder how the Korean scene has reacted, it must be 100 times worse over there. You do realize that not every fact is included in liquipedia, nor all of it is 100% accurate, right? I don't even understand why are you trying to argue this point further seeing as you obviously don't have first-hand knowledge of whether Jessica was involved in Slayers' creation or not, and your only source is liquipedia which, while useful, is obviously not the be-all end-all of SC facts. at least I included something that could be considered as fact. No it's exactly something that cannot be considered as fact. If you were to look up the source for it, it's a tweet from BoxeR that he is starting a Slayers team. Never did he say who the founder(s) are. Liquipedia assumes it's solely BoxeR because he tweeted it, but that's of course ridiculous. In Boxer Wings you can see that Jessica has been involved from the very start, thus a co-founder.
Sure the fact I gave as weight to my argument could very well be flawed, That's entirely possible. I highly doubt it though since Liquipedia usually is a pretty accurate source and that it would say something about that Jessica was the co-founder of the slayers if she was some sort of founder. I also cannot recall the video saying explicitly that Jessica was the co-founder of slayers.
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On October 21 2012 23:05 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:03 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:02 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:00 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 22:56 Shival wrote:On October 21 2012 22:55 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 22:52 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 22:45 obsidia wrote:
I always thought Jessica was absolutely insane, sad to see it ruin my favorite Korean team though. Oh well you do realize she founded your favorite team Boxer did, not Jessica. Such an ignorant statement. Some highlights from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SlayerS:....SlayerS (Korean: 슬레이어스, known officially in English as "SlayerS Clan") is a professional StarCraft 2 team created by BoxeR. ...
...August 16th, BoxeR, the original founder of both teams, leaves SlayerS to rejoin SK Telecom T1 as a coach...[21] she is the co founder who funded the team and managed the team from the get go Nope, she owned the team but Boxer was the founder, you said that Jessica founded the team which is not true. Boxer was the founder of the team. is it so hard to grasp the concept of two people founding something?
Dont feed the troll
he has been trying to say that jessica is simply a nutcase and others didnt do anything wrong.
Also i dont think his brain is big enough to comprehend the term
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On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely.
the crank statement only says that the atmosphere was bad, he tried to fix it but couldnt.
it doesnt say what he saw as the problem and what he suggested
if he suggested a payrise of 1000 percent that might have been good for morale but would have been hard for jessica and boxer to fund
he blames that boxer was in the team house but didnt help them... help them with what?
he needs to be specific
also that short statement took them days to produce... looks like they edited out everything
that could be countered by jessicas evidences
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On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely.
It is a weak statement. When Jessica came out with her statement everyone was asking for proof to back everything she said up, but when Crank puts out his statement we're suppose to just take his word for it? That's quite the double standard you have there. So far everything she has say has been proven to be true, are we suppose to believe she just so happen to lie about MMA and Crank?
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On October 21 2012 23:46 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely. the crank statement only says that the atmosphere was bad, he tried to fix it but couldnt. it doesnt say what he saw as the problem and what he suggested if he suggested a payrise of 1000 percent that might have been good for morale but would have been hard for jessica and boxer to fund he blames that boxer was in the team house but didnt help them... help them with what? he needs to be specific also that short statement took them days to produce... looks like they edited out everything that could be countered by jessicas evidences
The statement of Crank is already a mess and can be pulled apart by itself. Little wonder they don't release more details, or evidence which TotalBisquit aluded to earlier.
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On October 21 2012 23:52 gamerfan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely. It is a weak statement. When Jessica came out with her statement everyone was asking for proof to back everything she said up, but when Crank puts out his statement we're suppose to just take his word for it? That's quite the double standard you have there. So far everything she has say has been proven to be true, are we suppose to believe she just so happen to lie about MMA and Crank?
ansinjunger i believe is someone who believes that slayers achievements are solely attributable to boxer and the failings are all because of jessica
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Crank statement has no real evidence.
All i read in that statement is things we already know about.
There a lot of self-pity in Crank statement.
Btw,Jessica has replied to the Crank statement
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4202897
The gist of her statement is that she will revealed her recording(supposed evidence) that revolves around Crank,Boxer and herself that goes around 1 hour(57 minutes and 48 seconds).
Seems like Crank is done for.
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On October 21 2012 23:45 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:05 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:03 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:02 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:00 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 22:56 Shival wrote:On October 21 2012 22:55 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 22:52 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 22:45 obsidia wrote:
I always thought Jessica was absolutely insane, sad to see it ruin my favorite Korean team though. Oh well you do realize she founded your favorite team Boxer did, not Jessica. Such an ignorant statement. Some highlights from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SlayerS:....SlayerS (Korean: 슬레이어스, known officially in English as "SlayerS Clan") is a professional StarCraft 2 team created by BoxeR. ...
...August 16th, BoxeR, the original founder of both teams, leaves SlayerS to rejoin SK Telecom T1 as a coach...[21] she is the co founder who funded the team and managed the team from the get go Nope, she owned the team but Boxer was the founder, you said that Jessica founded the team which is not true. Boxer was the founder of the team. is it so hard to grasp the concept of two people founding something? Dont feed the troll he has been trying to say that jessica is simply a nutcase and others didnt do anything wrong. Also i dont think his brain is big enough to comprehend the term
I never once said that Jessica was a nutcaste, or that the other didn't do any wrong or in some way did not contribute. What I have been saying is that the management of the team could had done a better job regarding prevention and control of the unfortunate situation caused by a series of events which no one on the team really wanted or seemed to have had any control over.
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On October 21 2012 23:52 gamerfan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely. It is a weak statement. When Jessica came out with her statement everyone was asking for proof to back everything she said up, but when Crank puts out his statement we're suppose to just take his word for it? That's quite the double standard you have there. So far everything she has say has been proven to be true, are we suppose to believe she just so happen to lie about MMA and Crank?
The only thing Jessica has said proven true is in regards to eSF, plus the parts of the story that both she and Crank said in their separate statements. Her evidence on Crank--the phone call--he's supposedly fine with revealing. My take is there was an emotional conversation, and she interpreted it as yelling at Boxer, since she's hypersensitive about that sort of thing and about defending her own.
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On October 21 2012 23:58 FakeDeath wrote:Crank statement has no real evidence. Btw,Jessica has replied to the Crank statement http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4202897The gist of her statement is that she will revealed her recording(supposed evidence) that revolves around Crank,Boxer and herself that goes around 1 hour(57 minutes and 48 seconds). Seems like Crank is done for.
Crank doesn't mind if it's released. What evidence do you want? Why would he record his own conversations? lol.
Let the "recordings" be released and the truth will be revealed.
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On October 21 2012 23:58 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:45 mongmong wrote:On October 21 2012 23:05 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:03 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 23:02 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 23:00 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 22:56 Shival wrote:On October 21 2012 22:55 Integra wrote:On October 21 2012 22:52 farnham wrote:On October 21 2012 22:45 obsidia wrote:
I always thought Jessica was absolutely insane, sad to see it ruin my favorite Korean team though. Oh well you do realize she founded your favorite team Boxer did, not Jessica. Such an ignorant statement. Some highlights from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SlayerS:....SlayerS (Korean: 슬레이어스, known officially in English as "SlayerS Clan") is a professional StarCraft 2 team created by BoxeR. ...
...August 16th, BoxeR, the original founder of both teams, leaves SlayerS to rejoin SK Telecom T1 as a coach...[21] she is the co founder who funded the team and managed the team from the get go Nope, she owned the team but Boxer was the founder, you said that Jessica founded the team which is not true. Boxer was the founder of the team. is it so hard to grasp the concept of two people founding something? Dont feed the troll he has been trying to say that jessica is simply a nutcase and others didnt do anything wrong. Also i dont think his brain is big enough to comprehend the term I never once said that Jessica was a nutcaste, or that the other didn't do any wrong or in some way did not contribute. What I have been saying is that the management of the team could had done a better job regarding prevention and control of the unfortunate situation caused by a series of events which no one on the team really wanted or seemed to have had any control over.
the real reason for the practice ban was slayers refusing to join esf... she dis talk to coach won amd the other coaches to lift the ban but the ban was prolonged inofficially.
she tried to publish the story month ago through TIG but they refused...
so yeah she tried but it seems she just is fed up with it and focusing on acting (sje is in thailand now for a shooting)
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On October 21 2012 23:58 FakeDeath wrote:Crank statement has no real evidence. All i read in that statement is things we already know about. There a lot of self-pity in Crank statement. Btw,Jessica has replied to the Crank statement http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4202897The gist of her statement is that she will revealed her recording(supposed evidence) that revolves around Crank,Boxer and herself that goes around 1 hour(57 minutes and 48 seconds). Seems like Crank is done for.
damn real shit is about to go down, phone recordings ?:D
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Yeah and lets make sure we do this as publicly as humanly possible right?
Should I start reserving billboard space?
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On October 22 2012 00:02 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:52 gamerfan wrote:On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely. It is a weak statement. When Jessica came out with her statement everyone was asking for proof to back everything she said up, but when Crank puts out his statement we're suppose to just take his word for it? That's quite the double standard you have there. So far everything she has say has been proven to be true, are we suppose to believe she just so happen to lie about MMA and Crank? The only thing Jessica has said proven true is in regards to eSF, plus the parts of the story that both she and Crank said in their separate statements. Her evidence on Crank--the phone call--he's supposedly fine with revealing. My take is there was an emotional conversation, and she interpreted it as yelling at Boxer, since she's hypersensitive about that sort of thing and about defending her own.
if crank really said 형이 해준게 뭔데 he is banned from the korean scene forever
i can say that much
but looks like he will be fine since the foreign scene will feed him
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On October 22 2012 00:09 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:02 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 21 2012 23:52 gamerfan wrote:On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely. It is a weak statement. When Jessica came out with her statement everyone was asking for proof to back everything she said up, but when Crank puts out his statement we're suppose to just take his word for it? That's quite the double standard you have there. So far everything she has say has been proven to be true, are we suppose to believe she just so happen to lie about MMA and Crank? The only thing Jessica has said proven true is in regards to eSF, plus the parts of the story that both she and Crank said in their separate statements. Her evidence on Crank--the phone call--he's supposedly fine with revealing. My take is there was an emotional conversation, and she interpreted it as yelling at Boxer, since she's hypersensitive about that sort of thing and about defending her own. if crank really said 형이 해준게 뭔데 he is banned from the korean scene forever i can say that much but looks like he will be fine since the foreign scene will feed him
If Crank did say that(형이 해준게 뭔데 ).
Yup hes done.
Korean community will be grabbing their pitchforks.
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On October 22 2012 00:07 Medrea wrote:
Yeah and lets make sure we do this as publicly as humanly possible right?
Should I start reserving billboard space?
this kind of behavioris not inly unhonorable
its the very reason why esf was founded
they were fed up with kespa bullshit
now that esf has proven that they are the same they lost their reason dêtre
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On October 22 2012 00:11 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:09 farnham wrote:On October 22 2012 00:02 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 21 2012 23:52 gamerfan wrote:On October 21 2012 23:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
So Crank's statement doesn't have any "hard facts" like receipts, recordings, or replays, and people consider it a weak statement? As someone pointed out, the two statements largely coincide, except for Crank's talks with Boxer.
In any case, none of these boys had any reason to be covering their tracks and all that bs that Jessica does. If you can't see how she is acting out of spite while they just want to be free from this hateful situation, I don't know what will convince you short of Boxer selling her out, which is very unlikely. It is a weak statement. When Jessica came out with her statement everyone was asking for proof to back everything she said up, but when Crank puts out his statement we're suppose to just take his word for it? That's quite the double standard you have there. So far everything she has say has been proven to be true, are we suppose to believe she just so happen to lie about MMA and Crank? The only thing Jessica has said proven true is in regards to eSF, plus the parts of the story that both she and Crank said in their separate statements. Her evidence on Crank--the phone call--he's supposedly fine with revealing. My take is there was an emotional conversation, and she interpreted it as yelling at Boxer, since she's hypersensitive about that sort of thing and about defending her own. if crank really said 형이 해준게 뭔데 he is banned from the korean scene forever i can say that much but looks like he will be fine since the foreign scene will feed him If Crank did say that(형이 해준게 뭔데 ). Yup hes done. Korean community will be grabbing their pitchforks.
Which means what, ' F u Boxer' ?
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