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R.I.P. SlayerS
you were my fav team 
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On October 17 2012 22:16 frequency wrote:Part 3: Show nested quote +- Mr Won promised us that both GomTV and the federation will claim their rights. However we heard nothing about this incident after. We asked Mr Won if there had been conversations between two parties, such as e-mails, but Mr Won said there wasn't anything like that/
- We understood NASL's position about needing deposits as many players who already disqualfied for the main stage avoid or ditch remaining matches. NASL season 3 started and because there were no attempts communicate from the federation and NASL. We entered season 3.
- Total 8 players made through the qualifiers, and that's when Mr Choi (MVP coach) contacted us. He expressed his regrets about us playing in NASL and mentioned that FXO entered for the qualifiers but dropped the thoughts immediately. He asked me to drop the 8 players from participating. I explained to Mr Choi that I only agreed to boycott season 2 as Mr Won promised me to show results or at least attempts to communicate to reach an agreement with NASL but have heard nothing from him. I explained the whole surrounding situations and asked him to tell other team coaches of the federation who do not know the situation but weirdly enough nothing was communicated between them.
- Even Mr Won who could have told other teams about how we thought, and when I asked him why he didn't communicate that to the federation. He claimed that he doesn't remember the conversation clearly that he didn't want to communicate something uncertain. I thought the federation was an absurd group.
- We have heard from other players from different teams, that they were told not to practise with SlayerS players and not even chat on ladder. Players who were good friends with each other had to use a different account to secretly help our players to practise. When I heard about this, I asked Mr Won and argued however he said confidently "it's petty but this is how far we will go to put restrictions on SlayerS'
- When I answered, that is ridiculous as we had not done anything wrong and this is destroying players personal friendship. And Mr Won simply replied 'this happens because you refused to join the federation and go on separate ways'. I made several claims to the federation but nobody answered me and players couldn't find practise partners.
- As I couldn't take this any longer, I phoned Mr Won and told "I don't want our players to have unfair disadvantages because of their team. I will disband the team so take our players to your team. However we will formally request you (the federation) to be liable for damages you caused to the team and our sponsors." And that is when we have finally gotten an e-mail saying that they will lift up the restriction. (Have shown it to the reporter who wrote this) Other 2 parts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156
Woah...so the eSF basically blacklisted SlayerS?
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Wow, so SlayerS players apparently couldn't find partners because they didn't join the eSF? Explains a lot. The dip in results, the large number of players changing games, etc.
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On October 17 2012 22:19 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 22:16 frequency wrote:Part 3: - Mr Won promised us that both GomTV and the federation will claim their rights. However we heard nothing about this incident after. We asked Mr Won if there had been conversations between two parties, such as e-mails, but Mr Won said there wasn't anything like that/
- We understood NASL's position about needing deposits as many players who already disqualfied for the main stage avoid or ditch remaining matches. NASL season 3 started and because there were no attempts communicate from the federation and NASL. We entered season 3.
- Total 8 players made through the qualifiers, and that's when Mr Choi (MVP coach) contacted us. He expressed his regrets about us playing in NASL and mentioned that FXO entered for the qualifiers but dropped the thoughts immediately. He asked me to drop the 8 players from participating. I explained to Mr Choi that I only agreed to boycott season 2 as Mr Won promised me to show results or at least attempts to communicate to reach an agreement with NASL but have heard nothing from him. I explained the whole surrounding situations and asked him to tell other team coaches of the federation who do not know the situation but weirdly enough nothing was communicated between them.
- Even Mr Won who could have told other teams about how we thought, and when I asked him why he didn't communicate that to the federation. He claimed that he doesn't remember the conversation clearly that he didn't want to communicate something uncertain. I thought the federation was an absurd group.
- We have heard from other players from different teams, that they were told not to practise with SlayerS players and not even chat on ladder. Players who were good friends with each other had to use a different account to secretly help our players to practise. When I heard about this, I asked Mr Won and argued however he said confidently "it's petty but this is how far we will go to put restrictions on SlayerS'
- When I answered, that is ridiculous as we had not done anything wrong and this is destroying players personal friendship. And Mr Won simply replied 'this happens because you refused to join the federation and go on separate ways'. I made several claims to the federation but nobody answered me and players couldn't find practise partners.
- As I couldn't take this any longer, I phoned Mr Won and told "I don't want our players to have unfair disadvantages because of their team. I will disband the team so take our players to your team. However we will formally request you (the federation) to be liable for damages you caused to the team and our sponsors." And that is when we have finally gotten an e-mail saying that they will lift up the restriction. (Have shown it to the reporter who wrote this) Other 2 parts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156 Woah...so the eSF basically blacklisted SlayerS?
I'd take what she says with a grain of salt. Knowing her past in dealing with other people, she's probably exaggerating everything.
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- We have heard from other players from different teams, that they were told not to practise with SlayerS players and not even chat on ladder. Players who were good friends with each other had to use a different account to secretly help our players to practise. When I heard about this, I asked Mr Won and argued however he said confidently "it's petty but this is how far we will go to put restrictions on SlayerS'
ok taking it with grain of salt, definitely very heavy hitter...
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Wow.. just wow.. After reading the Korean source, I'm very disappointed with Crank, Alicia, Ryoung, and MMA.
Poor Boxer... I would also have disband the team if I was in the situation.
I will not support any of these players ever again.. maybe except MMA since he was blinded by other players.
tsk tsk.. Blind by the fame and money.
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The reason why Slayers disbanded is because they betrayed the power of their jackets and got new uniforms.
Seriously: a very sad thing. I'd be glad to see a new (non-Kespa) team making it in Korea (during the last few months, oGs disbanded, Zenex was absorbed by Startale, NSHS looks like it's fighting for dear life, now Slayers are out...).
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On October 17 2012 22:20 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 22:19 Kommander wrote:On October 17 2012 22:16 frequency wrote:Part 3: - Mr Won promised us that both GomTV and the federation will claim their rights. However we heard nothing about this incident after. We asked Mr Won if there had been conversations between two parties, such as e-mails, but Mr Won said there wasn't anything like that/
- We understood NASL's position about needing deposits as many players who already disqualfied for the main stage avoid or ditch remaining matches. NASL season 3 started and because there were no attempts communicate from the federation and NASL. We entered season 3.
- Total 8 players made through the qualifiers, and that's when Mr Choi (MVP coach) contacted us. He expressed his regrets about us playing in NASL and mentioned that FXO entered for the qualifiers but dropped the thoughts immediately. He asked me to drop the 8 players from participating. I explained to Mr Choi that I only agreed to boycott season 2 as Mr Won promised me to show results or at least attempts to communicate to reach an agreement with NASL but have heard nothing from him. I explained the whole surrounding situations and asked him to tell other team coaches of the federation who do not know the situation but weirdly enough nothing was communicated between them.
- Even Mr Won who could have told other teams about how we thought, and when I asked him why he didn't communicate that to the federation. He claimed that he doesn't remember the conversation clearly that he didn't want to communicate something uncertain. I thought the federation was an absurd group.
- We have heard from other players from different teams, that they were told not to practise with SlayerS players and not even chat on ladder. Players who were good friends with each other had to use a different account to secretly help our players to practise. When I heard about this, I asked Mr Won and argued however he said confidently "it's petty but this is how far we will go to put restrictions on SlayerS'
- When I answered, that is ridiculous as we had not done anything wrong and this is destroying players personal friendship. And Mr Won simply replied 'this happens because you refused to join the federation and go on separate ways'. I made several claims to the federation but nobody answered me and players couldn't find practise partners.
- As I couldn't take this any longer, I phoned Mr Won and told "I don't want our players to have unfair disadvantages because of their team. I will disband the team so take our players to your team. However we will formally request you (the federation) to be liable for damages you caused to the team and our sponsors." And that is when we have finally gotten an e-mail saying that they will lift up the restriction. (Have shown it to the reporter who wrote this) Other 2 parts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156 Woah...so the eSF basically blacklisted SlayerS? I'd take what she says with a grain of salt. Knowing her past in dealing with other people, she's probably exaggerating everything.
Yes. I think anyone taking what Jessica says as the whole story is pretty naive lol
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Sad for the team. And for boxer.
Hey Llewellys time to work bro, and brought some ex-slauers at Marseille with ForGG !!! :D
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On October 17 2012 22:21 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 22:20 GTR wrote:On October 17 2012 22:19 Kommander wrote:On October 17 2012 22:16 frequency wrote:Part 3: - Mr Won promised us that both GomTV and the federation will claim their rights. However we heard nothing about this incident after. We asked Mr Won if there had been conversations between two parties, such as e-mails, but Mr Won said there wasn't anything like that/
- We understood NASL's position about needing deposits as many players who already disqualfied for the main stage avoid or ditch remaining matches. NASL season 3 started and because there were no attempts communicate from the federation and NASL. We entered season 3.
- Total 8 players made through the qualifiers, and that's when Mr Choi (MVP coach) contacted us. He expressed his regrets about us playing in NASL and mentioned that FXO entered for the qualifiers but dropped the thoughts immediately. He asked me to drop the 8 players from participating. I explained to Mr Choi that I only agreed to boycott season 2 as Mr Won promised me to show results or at least attempts to communicate to reach an agreement with NASL but have heard nothing from him. I explained the whole surrounding situations and asked him to tell other team coaches of the federation who do not know the situation but weirdly enough nothing was communicated between them.
- Even Mr Won who could have told other teams about how we thought, and when I asked him why he didn't communicate that to the federation. He claimed that he doesn't remember the conversation clearly that he didn't want to communicate something uncertain. I thought the federation was an absurd group.
- We have heard from other players from different teams, that they were told not to practise with SlayerS players and not even chat on ladder. Players who were good friends with each other had to use a different account to secretly help our players to practise. When I heard about this, I asked Mr Won and argued however he said confidently "it's petty but this is how far we will go to put restrictions on SlayerS'
- When I answered, that is ridiculous as we had not done anything wrong and this is destroying players personal friendship. And Mr Won simply replied 'this happens because you refused to join the federation and go on separate ways'. I made several claims to the federation but nobody answered me and players couldn't find practise partners.
- As I couldn't take this any longer, I phoned Mr Won and told "I don't want our players to have unfair disadvantages because of their team. I will disband the team so take our players to your team. However we will formally request you (the federation) to be liable for damages you caused to the team and our sponsors." And that is when we have finally gotten an e-mail saying that they will lift up the restriction. (Have shown it to the reporter who wrote this) Other 2 parts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156 Woah...so the eSF basically blacklisted SlayerS? I'd take what she says with a grain of salt. Knowing her past in dealing with other people, she's probably exaggerating everything. Yes. I think anyone taking what Jessica says as the whole story is pretty naive lol
I agree, someone in the scene should cross-check how true certain facts are.
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On October 17 2012 22:20 Flytothesky wrote:
Wow.. just wow.. After reading the Korean source, I'm very disappointed with Crank, Alicia, Ryoung, and MMA.
Poor Boxer... I would also have disband the team if I was in the situation.
I will not support any of these players ever again.. maybe except MMA since he was blinded by other players.
tsk tsk.. Blind by the fame and money.
i guess there is nothing wrong it ryung.. i mean he tried his best until mma and crank kept on having bad influence on him..
im really disappointed in crank the most though..
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Jessica with the huge drama. Hmm. She's known to be completely unreliable and blowing things out of proportion, I'll certainly not take everything she says as fact.
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On October 17 2012 22:20 Flytothesky wrote:
Wow.. just wow.. After reading the Korean source, I'm very disappointed with Crank, Alicia, Ryoung, and MMA.
Poor Boxer... I would also have disband the team if I was in the situation.
I will not support any of these players ever again.. maybe except MMA since he was blinded by other players.
tsk tsk.. Blind by the fame and money.
Why is it the players' fault that Slayers disbanded?
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I wish Boxer would come out formally and explain everything. Only someone like him could end this on a non-depressing/wtf note.
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jebus I'm glad DRG got out of this team as soon as he could.
What a mess!
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On October 17 2012 22:16 frequency wrote:Part 3: Show nested quote +- Mr Won promised us that both GomTV and the federation will claim their rights. However we heard nothing about this incident after. We asked Mr Won if there had been conversations between two parties, such as e-mails, but Mr Won said there wasn't anything like that/
- We understood NASL's position about needing deposits as many players who already disqualfied for the main stage avoid or ditch remaining matches. NASL season 3 started and because there were no attempts communicate from the federation and NASL. We entered season 3.
- Total 8 players made through the qualifiers, and that's when Mr Choi (MVP coach) contacted us. He expressed his regrets about us playing in NASL and mentioned that FXO entered for the qualifiers but dropped the thoughts immediately. He asked me to drop the 8 players from participating. I explained to Mr Choi that I only agreed to boycott season 2 as Mr Won promised me to show results or at least attempts to communicate to reach an agreement with NASL but have heard nothing from him. I explained the whole surrounding situations and asked him to tell other team coaches of the federation who do not know the situation but weirdly enough nothing was communicated between them.
- Even Mr Won who could have told other teams about how we thought, and when I asked him why he didn't communicate that to the federation. He claimed that he doesn't remember the conversation clearly that he didn't want to communicate something uncertain. I thought the federation was an absurd group.
- We have heard from other players from different teams, that they were told not to practise with SlayerS players and not even chat on ladder. Players who were good friends with each other had to use a different account to secretly help our players to practise. When I heard about this, I asked Mr Won and argued however he said confidently "it's petty but this is how far we will go to put restrictions on SlayerS'
- When I answered, that is ridiculous as we had not done anything wrong and this is destroying players personal friendship. And Mr Won simply replied 'this happens because you refused to join the federation and go on separate ways'. I made several claims to the federation but nobody answered me and players couldn't find practise partners.
- As I couldn't take this any longer, I phoned Mr Won and told "I don't want our players to have unfair disadvantages because of their team. I will disband the team so take our players to your team. However we will formally request you (the federation) to be liable for damages you caused to the team and our sponsors." And that is when we have finally gotten an e-mail saying that they will lift up the restriction. (Have shown it to the reporter who wrote this) Other 2 parts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156
So is it just me or is everyone else unable to read this without their un-bias glasses firmly on? Or was the whole world really against SlayerS? =p
(will wait for entire thing to be more clearly translated but currently as it stands it seems like everyone is a bad guy or something ridiculous...)
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On October 17 2012 22:19 Fluffboll wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 22:16 humblegar wrote:On October 17 2012 22:01 L3g3nd_ wrote:
cant believe boxer jumped ship of the team he created after his own name.. surely had a lot to do with it, lost so much respect for him So did Boxer "Jump the ship" when he left brood war for SC2? When he left SKT (he created that too) to create a new team? Get your facts straight, and even better wait for the wall of text to be translated first. He went to the military for the obligatory service... and when his service was over SC2 was just around the corner and he wanted to put his energy on that and SKT T1 being a BW team (at the time) he created his own new team to do what he wanted. Maybe YOU should get your facts straight
dont forget he was also part of the the creation of ACE while in the military..
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