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+ Show Spoiler +On October 20 2012 01:10 Esorydal wrote:
Hi guys I usually dont comment but I dont want SC2 to die so here are my ideas to grow sc2 so casuals and pros alike can enjoy the game
1.)skins submitted by the community like female marines, or like king marines which have marines with crowns, different guns different symbols on buildings, the community can send there ideas and drawings and the best ones win enabling the artist to get that skin automatically while others have to get it through speacil missions or speacil achievements obtained by crazy stunts like an achievement for 200 average apm or multi drop harrass will grant you a ragged drop ship, marine and so on skins and such.
2.) fun team maps every week or just fun maps in general that you can farm things on or win skins from and from this you can have a single avatar that is customizable enabling you to change like the shoulder pads on the marines the helmets and so on. Also the single avatar that is choosen can be one of the charcters in multiplayer for instance im terran so lets say a is map is released every week or month that changes the story line of the game on this map you get to pick your avatar so i pick medivac because i want to heal for my party ill pick the medivac and when we kill the boss he will drop medivac parts that change like the wings on it the cockpit, change the healing beam color the way it floats almost like the gummi ship in kingdom hearts lol! and for like the tank which is the maruder you can change each tiny thing on him and these avatars you create can be the charcter used in the lobby room where everyones avatar is there click to move of course not wasd this way we will NOT FEEL LONELY ANYMORE! also the lore of the game can be constantly changing and be more fun as players are trying to get parts and skins on these maps.
3.)Also expanding on that idea how about events that enables you to win rare skins or Christmas time skins halloween skins that people can collect. Or even have team missions that grants these kinds of prizes and on top of that why not have skins that are winable through your arcarde system. The top games in the arcade system can even have a prize system involved, with this you can have new achievements coming out every week or anytime you guys feel inspired like when mma did he's crazy drop and pick up tactics with his medivacs there couldve been a skin for that if you do that in a real game enabling you to get MMA tanks and such.Another thing you can add is a tournament system that enables you to win skins, speacil name tags and so on hosted every week or somthing like that and you can have the your tournament records recorded and such.
4.) add a theme for the maps like christmas it will be christmas antiga map and halloween it will be antiga halloween map. Just to clarify the skins and parts obtained should be made customizable so when you ladder those skins and parts such as different guns are shown in game. On the changes i am mentioning will not change the game into somthing else it will still be a rts
It sounds like some completely out of topic 12 years old kid dumping useless ideas that no one cares about, right ?
Yet, it's probably the best post here.Because it illustrates what Starcraft 2 needs.People like him.
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On October 21 2012 02:29 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 05:02 blug wrote:On October 20 2012 00:22 Dfgj wrote:On October 19 2012 18:18 blug wrote:On October 19 2012 18:14 bokeevboke wrote:On October 19 2012 17:54 Assirra wrote:Then why is he playing it? Might as well just take a normal job. He has a wrong attitude if he thinks he can pursue sc2 pro career. I doubt he'll stay for long. But its hard to blame him, sc2 isn't fun as bw. That's just crap, I played sc1 back in the day and I got bored of it really quickly. I felt as though the units were just clunky and it was a battle against the UI. With sc2 it's about out thinking your opponent and also has a bit of micro involved (Yes, sc2 micro is hard. Doing drops in 3 different locations is hard and splitting your army correctly can be hard to). It's just nostalgic fan boys... People still play BW now. They play it instead of SC2, because they find it more fun. Please explain how that is nostalgia (without using a term like 'artificial fun'). Wait what? I don't really see how that destroys my argument of it being nostalgic. It doesn't strengthen my argument, nor does it weaken it. Most play sc1 for nostalgia, also some probably play it because they are really good at it and don't like the idea of joining a brand new game in which they will be sub par at. I do the same thing for some games... I played Counter Strike and I got really really good at it, I would top the charts almost all the time. It was incredibly hard for me to quit Counter Strike, it basically wasn't even fun anymore but I felt as though if I quit I would start sucking at it so I kept going. SC1 was a good game for it's time, but under today's standards... It's meh. No one in their right mind would choose sc1 over sc2 if you presented it to them for the very first time, nor would they have more fun if you say them down to play it. They would argue that the UI is terrible, it's got bad graphics, and the gameplay is clunky and slow with SC1. They would say that SC2 is superior in all those aspects mentioned. This line of thinking is why eSports may have died with BW (if DOTA2 does not succeed). How can there be any longetivity or sense of consistency (integral qualities of a sport..) if you don't think or will even entertain the idea that a game can be 'timeless'.
Urgh. People like you are so annoying. It's like listening to my dad talk about how good his generations music was, even though you only ever hear about the highlights of it. Never the downsides.
Comparing video games to sports is silly. Sports don't need to constantly reinvent themselves to keep the newer generations appeal. They are just exposed to it, and they decide they like it.
Video games are different. Why the hell would I want to play a game which is almost completely figured out, there is barely any new players and it is a very difficult game to even attempt to start playing. How good or fun something is doesn't really bear any relevance to it's success or play ability.
Also since sports and video games are completely different things. Looking at the sports model and thinking the video game model needs to be consistent and resemble it is fucking silly. The idea that esports is dying is fucking laughable as well. Just because your beloved game isn't doing well anymore, doesn't mean others games are doing shit. That applys to SC2 as well as BW, CS, LoL, DOTA 2. Just because your preferences aren't doing as well as you like, to say esports is dying when people for the first time ever are making careers out of it is actually so out of sync with the real world.
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On October 23 2012 22:12 haffy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 02:29 ShadeR wrote:On October 20 2012 05:02 blug wrote:On October 20 2012 00:22 Dfgj wrote:On October 19 2012 18:18 blug wrote:On October 19 2012 18:14 bokeevboke wrote:On October 19 2012 17:54 Assirra wrote:Then why is he playing it? Might as well just take a normal job. He has a wrong attitude if he thinks he can pursue sc2 pro career. I doubt he'll stay for long. But its hard to blame him, sc2 isn't fun as bw. That's just crap, I played sc1 back in the day and I got bored of it really quickly. I felt as though the units were just clunky and it was a battle against the UI. With sc2 it's about out thinking your opponent and also has a bit of micro involved (Yes, sc2 micro is hard. Doing drops in 3 different locations is hard and splitting your army correctly can be hard to). It's just nostalgic fan boys... People still play BW now. They play it instead of SC2, because they find it more fun. Please explain how that is nostalgia (without using a term like 'artificial fun'). Wait what? I don't really see how that destroys my argument of it being nostalgic. It doesn't strengthen my argument, nor does it weaken it. Most play sc1 for nostalgia, also some probably play it because they are really good at it and don't like the idea of joining a brand new game in which they will be sub par at. I do the same thing for some games... I played Counter Strike and I got really really good at it, I would top the charts almost all the time. It was incredibly hard for me to quit Counter Strike, it basically wasn't even fun anymore but I felt as though if I quit I would start sucking at it so I kept going. SC1 was a good game for it's time, but under today's standards... It's meh. No one in their right mind would choose sc1 over sc2 if you presented it to them for the very first time, nor would they have more fun if you say them down to play it. They would argue that the UI is terrible, it's got bad graphics, and the gameplay is clunky and slow with SC1. They would say that SC2 is superior in all those aspects mentioned. This line of thinking is why eSports may have died with BW (if DOTA2 does not succeed). How can there be any longetivity or sense of consistency (integral qualities of a sport..) if you don't think or will even entertain the idea that a game can be 'timeless'. Urgh. People like you are so annoying. It's like listening to my dad talk about how good his generations music was, even though you only ever hear about the highlights of it. Never the downsides. Comparing video games to sports is silly. Sports don't need to constantly reinvent themselves to keep the newer generations appeal. They are just exposed to it, and they decide they like it. Video games are different. Why the hell would I want to play a game which is almost completely figured out, there is barely any new players and it is a very difficult game to even attempt to start playing. How good or fun something is doesn't really bear any relevance to it's success or play ability. Also since sports and video games are completely different things. Looking at the sports model and thinking the video game model needs to be consistent and resemble it is fucking silly. The idea that esports is dying is fucking laughable as well. Just because your beloved game isn't doing well anymore, doesn't mean others games are doing shit. That applys to SC2 as well as BW, CS, LoL, DOTA 2. Just because your preferences aren't doing as well as you like, to say esports is dying when people for the first time ever are making careers out of it is actually so out of sync with the real world.
Then stop calling it ESPORTS.
Edit: You can't have it both ways proclaiming it a sport and constantly cycling to and from every new fad video game.
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I actually don't give a shit what it's called. But what relevance does somethings name have to do with anything?
If that was the case, I'm pretty sure American football would have a different name. And rugby would have touch downs instead of tries and vice versa. Considering you have to touch down the ball in a controlled manner for it to be a try in rugby. And in American football you just need to cross the line.
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On October 23 2012 22:41 haffy wrote:
I actually don't give a shit what it's called. But what relevance does somethings name have to do with anything?
If that was the case, I'm pretty sure American football would have a different name. And rugby would have touch downs instead of tries and vice versa. Considering you have to touch down the ball in a controlled manner for it to be a try in rugby. And in American football you just need to cross the line.
No one understands your tortured analogies, but I think we can all agree you don't understand what you're saying either.
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On October 23 2012 22:20 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 22:12 haffy wrote:On October 21 2012 02:29 ShadeR wrote:On October 20 2012 05:02 blug wrote:On October 20 2012 00:22 Dfgj wrote:On October 19 2012 18:18 blug wrote:On October 19 2012 18:14 bokeevboke wrote:On October 19 2012 17:54 Assirra wrote:Then why is he playing it? Might as well just take a normal job. He has a wrong attitude if he thinks he can pursue sc2 pro career. I doubt he'll stay for long. But its hard to blame him, sc2 isn't fun as bw. That's just crap, I played sc1 back in the day and I got bored of it really quickly. I felt as though the units were just clunky and it was a battle against the UI. With sc2 it's about out thinking your opponent and also has a bit of micro involved (Yes, sc2 micro is hard. Doing drops in 3 different locations is hard and splitting your army correctly can be hard to). It's just nostalgic fan boys... People still play BW now. They play it instead of SC2, because they find it more fun. Please explain how that is nostalgia (without using a term like 'artificial fun'). Wait what? I don't really see how that destroys my argument of it being nostalgic. It doesn't strengthen my argument, nor does it weaken it. Most play sc1 for nostalgia, also some probably play it because they are really good at it and don't like the idea of joining a brand new game in which they will be sub par at. I do the same thing for some games... I played Counter Strike and I got really really good at it, I would top the charts almost all the time. It was incredibly hard for me to quit Counter Strike, it basically wasn't even fun anymore but I felt as though if I quit I would start sucking at it so I kept going. SC1 was a good game for it's time, but under today's standards... It's meh. No one in their right mind would choose sc1 over sc2 if you presented it to them for the very first time, nor would they have more fun if you say them down to play it. They would argue that the UI is terrible, it's got bad graphics, and the gameplay is clunky and slow with SC1. They would say that SC2 is superior in all those aspects mentioned. This line of thinking is why eSports may have died with BW (if DOTA2 does not succeed). How can there be any longetivity or sense of consistency (integral qualities of a sport..) if you don't think or will even entertain the idea that a game can be 'timeless'. Urgh. People like you are so annoying. It's like listening to my dad talk about how good his generations music was, even though you only ever hear about the highlights of it. Never the downsides. Comparing video games to sports is silly. Sports don't need to constantly reinvent themselves to keep the newer generations appeal. They are just exposed to it, and they decide they like it. Video games are different. Why the hell would I want to play a game which is almost completely figured out, there is barely any new players and it is a very difficult game to even attempt to start playing. How good or fun something is doesn't really bear any relevance to it's success or play ability. Also since sports and video games are completely different things. Looking at the sports model and thinking the video game model needs to be consistent and resemble it is fucking silly. The idea that esports is dying is fucking laughable as well. Just because your beloved game isn't doing well anymore, doesn't mean others games are doing shit. That applys to SC2 as well as BW, CS, LoL, DOTA 2. Just because your preferences aren't doing as well as you like, to say esports is dying when people for the first time ever are making careers out of it is actually so out of sync with the real world. Then stop calling it ESPORTS. Edit: You can't have it both ways proclaiming it a sport and constantly cycling to and from every new fad video game.
Competitive gaming, to be politically correct (at least for me).
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On October 23 2012 22:47 m3rciless wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 22:41 haffy wrote:
I actually don't give a shit what it's called. But what relevance does somethings name have to do with anything?
If that was the case, I'm pretty sure American football would have a different name. And rugby would have touch downs instead of tries and vice versa. Considering you have to touch down the ball in a controlled manner for it to be a try in rugby. And in American football you just need to cross the line. No one understands your tortured analogies, but I think we can all agree you don't understand what you're saying either.
Uh-huh. Thanks for adding value to the conversation.
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On October 23 2012 22:41 haffy wrote:
I actually don't give a shit what it's called. But what relevance does somethings name have to do with anything?
If that was the case, I'm pretty sure American football would have a different name. And rugby would have touch downs instead of tries and vice versa. Considering you have to touch down the ball in a controlled manner for it to be a try in rugby. And in American football you just need to cross the line.
What relevance does a name have to do with anything? Well names are what you would call nouns and nouns have definitions!
But if you wish to continue calling a dog a cat, I cannot stop you.
On October 23 2012 22:50 jpak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 22:20 ShadeR wrote:On October 23 2012 22:12 haffy wrote:On October 21 2012 02:29 ShadeR wrote:On October 20 2012 05:02 blug wrote:On October 20 2012 00:22 Dfgj wrote:On October 19 2012 18:18 blug wrote:On October 19 2012 18:14 bokeevboke wrote:On October 19 2012 17:54 Assirra wrote:Then why is he playing it? Might as well just take a normal job. He has a wrong attitude if he thinks he can pursue sc2 pro career. I doubt he'll stay for long. But its hard to blame him, sc2 isn't fun as bw. That's just crap, I played sc1 back in the day and I got bored of it really quickly. I felt as though the units were just clunky and it was a battle against the UI. With sc2 it's about out thinking your opponent and also has a bit of micro involved (Yes, sc2 micro is hard. Doing drops in 3 different locations is hard and splitting your army correctly can be hard to). It's just nostalgic fan boys... People still play BW now. They play it instead of SC2, because they find it more fun. Please explain how that is nostalgia (without using a term like 'artificial fun'). Wait what? I don't really see how that destroys my argument of it being nostalgic. It doesn't strengthen my argument, nor does it weaken it. Most play sc1 for nostalgia, also some probably play it because they are really good at it and don't like the idea of joining a brand new game in which they will be sub par at. I do the same thing for some games... I played Counter Strike and I got really really good at it, I would top the charts almost all the time. It was incredibly hard for me to quit Counter Strike, it basically wasn't even fun anymore but I felt as though if I quit I would start sucking at it so I kept going. SC1 was a good game for it's time, but under today's standards... It's meh. No one in their right mind would choose sc1 over sc2 if you presented it to them for the very first time, nor would they have more fun if you say them down to play it. They would argue that the UI is terrible, it's got bad graphics, and the gameplay is clunky and slow with SC1. They would say that SC2 is superior in all those aspects mentioned. This line of thinking is why eSports may have died with BW (if DOTA2 does not succeed). How can there be any longetivity or sense of consistency (integral qualities of a sport..) if you don't think or will even entertain the idea that a game can be 'timeless'. Urgh. People like you are so annoying. It's like listening to my dad talk about how good his generations music was, even though you only ever hear about the highlights of it. Never the downsides. Comparing video games to sports is silly. Sports don't need to constantly reinvent themselves to keep the newer generations appeal. They are just exposed to it, and they decide they like it. Video games are different. Why the hell would I want to play a game which is almost completely figured out, there is barely any new players and it is a very difficult game to even attempt to start playing. How good or fun something is doesn't really bear any relevance to it's success or play ability. Also since sports and video games are completely different things. Looking at the sports model and thinking the video game model needs to be consistent and resemble it is fucking silly. The idea that esports is dying is fucking laughable as well. Just because your beloved game isn't doing well anymore, doesn't mean others games are doing shit. That applys to SC2 as well as BW, CS, LoL, DOTA 2. Just because your preferences aren't doing as well as you like, to say esports is dying when people for the first time ever are making careers out of it is actually so out of sync with the real world. Then stop calling it ESPORTS. Edit: You can't have it both ways proclaiming it a sport and constantly cycling to and from every new fad video game. Competitive gaming, to be politically correct (at least for me).
Yeah something like eGames would also be appropriate.
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I used to love playing turret D in Brood War man that and DBZ lol that brought bak so many memories.
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yesterday on ITG i agree with Destiny and where he was coming from but i also agree with idra and incontrol and DJWheat about trying to improve the content and the game from our end. Destiny is right though, 2 years is a ridiculously stupid amount of time to wait for things that need to be incorporated into a game that is challenging 2 or 3 other big name titles in the current esports scene for being the main game.
What can we do as a community to help this?
Well we pretty much can't do much more than what we are already doing. We have made our events incredible over the last 2 years and ideas are starting to run out. We need blizzard to cooperate in order for this game to keep at the top otherwise im afraid to say that Destiny might just be right even if he is being a little bit on the extremist side of things.
Idra, one of the biggest whiner's and bad sports in the whole of the SC2 community yesterday was keeping positive about things in a way that i only feel was for his own reputation. I have never seen him act in a proffesional manner like that before and i can only think it was because he was on a live show with 5k viewers watching and listening to what he had to say. Destiny was being honest and truthful in what he had to say but i feel like the moaning is also counter productive on our part. I find it strange that the day after #SaveHOTS was trending and everyone was talking about this "Starcraft Crisis" Blizzard then turn around and announce a new UI change for HOTS.
Anyway i have been around in esports for nearly 8 years and i have seen games die due to the games developers not acting on things as they should do. It never seems to be a problem from a community aspect that kills off the game since the community are the ones working their asses off trying to make this game broadcasted better but that should not be our job in the first place. Sure we run the tournaments and sure we use the streaming facilities in order to raise awareness of this game BUT blizzard have the games mechanically based engine and control the games play ability.
Things like Close spawns on ladder are small things that should of been taken out by now. It's been 2 years and the whole of the starcraft community can see things like this are not good for spectators and for players. But whatever i think people need to realize that blizzard are not going to change things that we want changed but at the same time try and think of ideas of how to help improve starcraft from our POV. I can tell you right now, if blizzard was a company that tried to push their game forward e.g. Valve, this thread would have been laughed at and people would have got on with playing the game and just brushed this thread aside. But the fact we all know blizzard don't seem to have a clue what they are doing and making so many dodgy decisions in game balance changes and game mechanics is what makes us all worried. Blizzard are not exactly a company we have full trust in which is clear to see, but i think we need to give this more time and try to work on things until HOTS. If HOTS turns out terrible and things are looking amazing from a DOTA and LoL perspective then i would start to worry about things on a much bigger scale.
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I miss the days of half-life mods and SC:BW
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Blizzard should have just remade BW with a fancy new campaign and a robust map editor, SC2 is a fucking mess and has been since day one. Destiny is completely right.
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Destiny is the biggest retard i ever met. Kids giving up on sc2 cause he cant win tournaments LOL. Trash go to league of legends. The sad thing is the interface of league of legends is so simliar to sc2 LOL!!!
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On October 23 2012 22:20 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 22:12 haffy wrote:On October 21 2012 02:29 ShadeR wrote:On October 20 2012 05:02 blug wrote:On October 20 2012 00:22 Dfgj wrote:On October 19 2012 18:18 blug wrote:On October 19 2012 18:14 bokeevboke wrote:On October 19 2012 17:54 Assirra wrote:Then why is he playing it? Might as well just take a normal job. He has a wrong attitude if he thinks he can pursue sc2 pro career. I doubt he'll stay for long. But its hard to blame him, sc2 isn't fun as bw. That's just crap, I played sc1 back in the day and I got bored of it really quickly. I felt as though the units were just clunky and it was a battle against the UI. With sc2 it's about out thinking your opponent and also has a bit of micro involved (Yes, sc2 micro is hard. Doing drops in 3 different locations is hard and splitting your army correctly can be hard to). It's just nostalgic fan boys... People still play BW now. They play it instead of SC2, because they find it more fun. Please explain how that is nostalgia (without using a term like 'artificial fun'). Wait what? I don't really see how that destroys my argument of it being nostalgic. It doesn't strengthen my argument, nor does it weaken it. Most play sc1 for nostalgia, also some probably play it because they are really good at it and don't like the idea of joining a brand new game in which they will be sub par at. I do the same thing for some games... I played Counter Strike and I got really really good at it, I would top the charts almost all the time. It was incredibly hard for me to quit Counter Strike, it basically wasn't even fun anymore but I felt as though if I quit I would start sucking at it so I kept going. SC1 was a good game for it's time, but under today's standards... It's meh. No one in their right mind would choose sc1 over sc2 if you presented it to them for the very first time, nor would they have more fun if you say them down to play it. They would argue that the UI is terrible, it's got bad graphics, and the gameplay is clunky and slow with SC1. They would say that SC2 is superior in all those aspects mentioned. This line of thinking is why eSports may have died with BW (if DOTA2 does not succeed). How can there be any longetivity or sense of consistency (integral qualities of a sport..) if you don't think or will even entertain the idea that a game can be 'timeless'. Urgh. People like you are so annoying. It's like listening to my dad talk about how good his generations music was, even though you only ever hear about the highlights of it. Never the downsides. Comparing video games to sports is silly. Sports don't need to constantly reinvent themselves to keep the newer generations appeal. They are just exposed to it, and they decide they like it. Video games are different. Why the hell would I want to play a game which is almost completely figured out, there is barely any new players and it is a very difficult game to even attempt to start playing. How good or fun something is doesn't really bear any relevance to it's success or play ability. Also since sports and video games are completely different things. Looking at the sports model and thinking the video game model needs to be consistent and resemble it is fucking silly. The idea that esports is dying is fucking laughable as well. Just because your beloved game isn't doing well anymore, doesn't mean others games are doing shit. That applys to SC2 as well as BW, CS, LoL, DOTA 2. Just because your preferences aren't doing as well as you like, to say esports is dying when people for the first time ever are making careers out of it is actually so out of sync with the real world. Then stop calling it ESPORTS. Edit: You can't have it both ways proclaiming it a sport and constantly cycling to and from every new fad video game.
From the sense I was getting he was saying it is silly to compare revenue models for sports and esports. While both are based on advertising obviously, there are sooooooooo many other streams for professional athletes to make their money where as in pro gaming there really is just the lucky sponsor here or there.
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Or how about let people go back to creating games with titles so you know what you are joining ie (1:1 Masters TVP ME T ON XXXXX) so people know what they are joining (and it should let you boot them).
I picked this one, but there are enough similar posts where people want either the ability to select the level of their opponents, or like here to have custom names for their games. While in theory this has advantages, and granted also in practise some, I wonder if these people actually ever played a game where it was possible. And if they did, they are lying to themselves how it was in the past.
The end result would be very simple: Player makes a game: 1v1 NOOBS ONLY!!!!11!!!!11!!!!. That player who made the game is diamond or higher who wants to farm easy wins. While a bit harder to abuse, I am also afraid that with the unranked 1v1 mode the result will be that some people drop their rank, and can then continiously farm easy wins against far worse opponents. And that isnt fun either for their victims.
I have to admit that an unranked option is handy if you want to switch race or try another strat. On the other hand, there is another option: just play on your main and dont care so much about what your rank does. Hell my record is dropping from diamond to gold (I think), who cares, its a game.
Now I fully understand that the 'forced' ladder might scare away casual people (and people who are simply obsessed over their rank), I also have had the ladder anxiety. However I dont believe adding what effectively is unlimitted newb bashing games for way better players is the solution. And please dont be one of the idiots who claim that the newbs learn from that. You learn from losing a game against a bit better opponent, you dont learn anything from being completely raped by a way better opponent besides that it might be a better idea to stop playing.
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On October 17 2012 13:53 ROOTT1 wrote:
Why in the FUCK would you design a game around the most unpopular feature of its predecessor?! This shows a clear and disgusting lack of understanding on Blizzard's part and is entirely unacceptable for a company trying to design a competitive game.
Boss. I really can't understand what's going through their heads. Have they lost their business sense?
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I must say, i hadnt read this post but i heard all around that Destiny was crying and saying bad stuff about esports.. and that IdrA is some kind of hero who blasted Destinys arguments out of the sky.... im pretty surprised to see that it was the other way around.
Destiny is right on the money with every single one of the points he make, sure he is writing as a 11 year old kid with ADD sometimes with his random mass caps and !!!11111ONeone.... but he is making some very valid points.
I didnt even realize untill now that most of the time i spent on sc1 and sc:bw was playing either 2v2/3v3/4v4 with my friends, talking to people in chat channels or playing UMS games.... i only played ranked ladder 1v1 once in a while but i had huge ladder anxiety.
This might be the reason to why i played WoL from closed beta untill a few weeks after game release, then i just stopped playing for some reason, dont know why.... i am still a huge fan of watching competitive starcraft2 but i dont play the game....
Oh well, seems like my favorite company got destroyed when Blizzard North got removed, WoW expansions, D3 and now SC2 expansions have all been failures. Viva la valve and dota2 <3
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On October 25 2012 10:48 Fizzy wrote:
I must say, i hadnt read this post but i heard all around that Destiny was crying and saying bad stuff about esports.. and that IdrA is some kind of hero who blasted Destinys arguments out of the sky.... im pretty surprised to see that it was the other way around.
Destiny is right on the money with every single one of the points he make, sure he is writing as a 11 year old kid with ADD sometimes with his random mass caps and !!!11111ONeone.... but he is making some very valid points.
I didnt even realize untill now that most of the time i spent on sc1 and sc:bw was playing either 2v2/3v3/4v4 with my friends, talking to people in chat channels or playing UMS games.... i only played ranked ladder 1v1 once in a while but i had huge ladder anxiety.
This might be the reason to why i played WoL from closed beta untill a few weeks after game release, then i just stopped playing for some reason, dont know why.... i am still a huge fan of watching competitive starcraft2 but i dont play the game....
Oh well, seems like my favorite company got destroyed when Blizzard North got removed, WoW expansions, D3 and now SC2 expansions have all been failures. Viva la valve and dota2 <3
In what world would Idra actually win an arguement against Destiny? Destiny is good at talking, he could win an arguement eventho he would be wrong. Tho he doesnt need to do that now since he is right about everything.
The mass caps used in quotations and other statements is more of a way to emphasis how you would think of it if someone was actually telling you this to your face rather than you reading it yourself, i kinda like it. I met some idiots that actually talks about sc2 in that way, so i understand where his coming from.
And just a side note here, the only reason Idra cares at all about these questions or casuals in general is because of the $.
He even stated on Sotg that he hates sc2, he doesnt even like the game. How does that bring casuals to the game?
Idra and Incontrol are two big jokes, wheat is the biggest child i have ever seen, i thought to myself that it has to be scientifically impossible for that guy to be 35 years old after his embarrassing outburst on ITG, only guy that deserves any creds is Painuser, awesome guy that deserves a better panel than those three idiots. Destiny got ganked by three idiots and i understand his reaction, tho he did get carried away and ranted about the same stuff but he is still trying to reach out to Blizz. And this drama might make them to take notice, hard to avoid it. So in a way Destiny have already done a better job than idra, incontrol and wheat all together.
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On October 25 2012 11:37 Kozo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 10:48 Fizzy wrote:
I must say, i hadnt read this post but i heard all around that Destiny was crying and saying bad stuff about esports.. and that IdrA is some kind of hero who blasted Destinys arguments out of the sky.... im pretty surprised to see that it was the other way around.
Destiny is right on the money with every single one of the points he make, sure he is writing as a 11 year old kid with ADD sometimes with his random mass caps and !!!11111ONeone.... but he is making some very valid points.
I didnt even realize untill now that most of the time i spent on sc1 and sc:bw was playing either 2v2/3v3/4v4 with my friends, talking to people in chat channels or playing UMS games.... i only played ranked ladder 1v1 once in a while but i had huge ladder anxiety.
This might be the reason to why i played WoL from closed beta untill a few weeks after game release, then i just stopped playing for some reason, dont know why.... i am still a huge fan of watching competitive starcraft2 but i dont play the game....
Oh well, seems like my favorite company got destroyed when Blizzard North got removed, WoW expansions, D3 and now SC2 expansions have all been failures. Viva la valve and dota2 <3 In what world would Idra actually win an arguement against Destiny? Destiny is good at talking, he could win an arguement eventho he would be wrong. Tho he doesnt need to do that now since he is right about everything. The mass caps used in quotations and other statements is more of a way to emphasis how you would think of it if someone was actually telling you this to your face rather than you reading it yourself, i kinda like it. I met some idiots that actually talks about sc2 in that way, so i understand where his coming from. And just a side note here, the only reason Idra cares at all about these questions or casuals in general is because of the $. He even stated on Sotg that he hates sc2, he doesnt even like the game. How does that bring casuals to the game? Idra and Incontrol are two big jokes, wheat is the biggest child i have ever seen, i thought to myself that it has to be scientifically impossible for that guy to be 35 years old after his embarrassing outburst on ITG, only guy that deserves any creds is Painuser, awesome guy that deserves a better panel than those three idiots. Destiny got ganked by three idiots and i understand his reaction, tho he did get carried away and ranted about the same stuff but he is still trying to reach out to Blizz. And this drama might make them to take notice, hard to avoid it. So in a way Destiny have already done a better job than idra, incontrol and wheat all together.
Destiny utterly failed to get his point across on live on three. I agree that with Destiny that Blizzard is extremely slow to respond to a lot of problems, but Destiny's approach to this is only fueling negativity. Yes Blizzard is to take some blame, but they can't take all the blame. The starcraft 2 team is extremely small and I honestly think they are trying their very best, they don't want this game to "die."
At the same time, it's extremely childish for Destiny to just throw his hands up and say "Blizzard is not doing anything so we shouldn't do anything." There are a lot of small things that we as a community can do to help Sc2. Simply watching your favorite sc2 streams will help sc2. Your views add up. Yes Destiny is well spoken, but on live on three he was as big of a troll as incontrol, idra or wheat.
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