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Ballistixz
United States1269 Posts
orb=racist remarks 1 year before he joined EG=fired idra=insulting remarks/wishing death on others=slap on the wrist/warning (multiple warnings i might add) stephano=children abuse joke/hinting at pedophilia=1 month suspension. ya, i dont take EG seriously anymore. there to inconsistent. | ||
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SnuggleZhenya
596 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:51 Rick Deckard wrote: If the cost of starcraft becoming mainstream is that the players can no longer be themselves and instead have to present fake politically correct personas then I would prefer starcraft to remain a niche sport untainted by the phony touch of sponsorship money. I would prefer that players "being themselves" would act like reasonable human beings. If making jokes about having sex with underage girls is "being themselves" then it is "themselves" that I don't like and wouldn't support regardless of how mainstream the scene is. I'm getting too old for the gaming community I guess, I'm sure I would've been one of the people saying this is no big deal 10 years ago. | ||
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oBlade
United States6267 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:55 Arghmyliver wrote: At least the team punished him so now people can't really pitchfork straight to the sponsors because EG can say they've taken care of it internally. Also - depending on where he was that could totally be legal. In France the age of consent is 13. - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Age_of_Consent_-_Global.svg&page=1 This only happened because of a sponsor writing campaign from a subreddit. On October 14 2012 03:55 Al Bundy wrote: This thread is interesting... Good to know that there are so many predators in the starcraft scene. Come on. This is not even close to an accurate summary of what people are talking about. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:51 Rick Deckard wrote: Agreed. If the cost of starcraft becoming mainstream is that the players can no longer be themselves and instead have to present fake politically correct personas then I would prefer starcraft to remain a niche sport untainted by the phony touch of sponsorship money. MC basically disagrees with everything you just said. The man has more personality then the whole foreign community combined minus a couple people and look how big Starcraft is in Korea. | ||
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RaelSan
Belgium223 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:58 Type|NarutO wrote: We should eMail the sponsors that we do not tolerate teams carrying out punishment to players for actions or private conversations that by mistake were made public. I don't think attacking EG will help him, but e-mailing sponsors to tell them Stephano is the main reason I/we buy their products could help balance things ! But we gotta stop the drama ! | ||
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Jisall
United States2054 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:52 testthewest wrote: So quick to judge man. You letting this shit consume you. You don't know the situation, his nor hers.Nobody in esports scene has come close to that kind of self confession, bro. Next time you think about airing you pedophilic rape stories, think about it again. I am upset with EG's decision, if i was stephano I would enter dreamhack n the other competitions under a alias name. Win the prize money and do it for the fans. Fuck EG Edit: On October 14 2012 04:01 Assirra wrote: MC basically disagrees with everything you just said. The man has more personality then the whole foreign community combined minus a couple people and look how big Starcraft is in Korea. MC is also the size of the whole foreign community. Literally. Never liked MC, felt he was too arrogant. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
I'm pretty sure Korean starcraft players don't trashtalk because they don't want to look like an idiot or an asshat when they lose...like MC in BW | ||
CountChocula
Canada2068 Posts
On October 14 2012 04:03 MattBarry wrote: I don't see how preventing people from joking about a violent crime against children is equivalent to censorship. This. Like someone in this thread pointed out earlier, there's a lot of room between joking about child abuse and having a personality. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On October 14 2012 04:00 blug wrote: Maybe the players should take responsibility for their actions? Stephano should know this is the internet and that things can get viral... What actions? Everyone here does jump to conclusions. That is a huge problem even in real life. Everyone gets a piece of information and makes something else out of it instead of questioning it. What Stephano wrote can simply be put as "I had sex with a 14 years old girl" which in itself surely isn't perfectly legal (at least in most countries I guess) but RAPING a girl surely is very different from having sex with a minor. Don't you agree? Ofcourse he didn't word it very wise but it wasn't even meant to be in public. Taking action because he made a "mistake" and than proceeded to make a bad joke? Come on. Some guys in here are really saying HE RAPED THE GIRL, ROFL. Are you serious? If EG would want to punish him for RAPE or you guys would accuse him of RAPE, please make sure the POLICE does know and he gets proper punishment, but banning him from tournaments for an obvious joke and a mistake that he did never meant to tell anyone but BlinG... seriously. | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3694 Posts
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Orek
1665 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:54 RaelSan wrote: This is ridiculous, you have to watch what you say anywhere any time on the internet ? You could at least try to look objective Yes. "Internet is a scary place" attitude is lacking especially among young generation. Some treat private chat on the internet as if it is a private conversation at school with friends. Online banking, business conversation on the internet etc. is fine only because you can hold the other side responsible for failing privacy. Private chat among friends doesn't quite fit in there. Watch your mouth on the internet, that's all I'm asking, or don't be surprised to face the consequences. Make inappropriate jokes face to face so that you know it never goes on record. Otherwise, just don't make such jokes. | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1078 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:58 MattBarry wrote: Bout to turn 18 next month, but I can assure you the maturity levels are hugely different between a 14 year old and an 18 year old. I should rephrase to say mature enough decisions regarding sexuality. So I don't know if you knew this or not - but one aspect of the sexual dimorphism in humans is that females tend to reach sexual maturity slightly faster than males. Regardless - both sexes reach sexual maturity between 12 and 15 years of age. Lets review the ages of the sexual partners in your example using the format Male Age-Female Age. We have: 19-14 23-18 19-0 40-21 You should now clearly see the difference between a forty-year-old having sex with a 21-year-old and a nineteen-year-old having sex with a newborn. In all of the cases above save one, both parties are sexually mature humans. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On October 14 2012 04:00 oBlade wrote: This only happened because of a sponsor writing campaign from a subreddit. Come on. This is not even close to an accurate summary of what people are talking about. I've read the whole thread. We've got tons of people here who are completely oblivious about the law and/or are fucking animals. | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On October 14 2012 02:33 rasers wrote: You need addiction 2 become pro in something  doesn't mean u have to call it issues. addiction isn't always bad.Yeah you need addiction to become pro. Just because the outcome is valued by society contrary to the outcome of most addictions doesnt mean an addiction is not a textbook psychological illness. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On October 14 2012 04:07 Arghmyliver wrote: So I don't know if you knew this or not - but one aspect of the sexual dimorphism in humans is that females tend to reach sexual maturity slightly faster than males. Regardless - both sexes reach sexual maturity between 12 and 15 years of age. Lets review the ages of the sexual partners in your example using the format Male Age-Female Age. We have: 19-14 23-18 19-0 40-21 You should now clearly see the difference between a forty-year-old having sex with a 21-year-old and a nineteen-year-old having sex with a newborn. In all of the cases above save one, both parties are sexually mature humans. I was making an exaggeration to point out how flawed saying "wait a few years and everyone will call him a pimp" There is a large difference in emotional maturity and power between a freshmen in highschool and a freshmen in college regardless of physical maturity. | ||
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hephaestos
France54 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:50 testthewest wrote: Which already is very problematic, since 14 is minor (not even close to grown up), 19 is adult. Adults are not supposed to have sex with minors....at least in my country. Tell me: Is "abusing" the term for consensual sex? I though it's using the weakness of someone, a child, the fact you are physically stronger, to get what you want, against the will of the other. Because he thinks that's cool, or why is he joking like that? Furthermore: He seemingly understands, he is not supposed to fuck with minors, but instead fine an adult woman (which he seemingly isn't able to get). I, think, dear sir, that you should carefully reread my message because you obviously did not understand shit about it. | ||
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wcr.4fun
Belgium686 Posts
On October 13 2012 23:10 relic wrote: He claimed to have sex with a kid, an under-age child.. how exactly do you "lighten up" regarding that? I don't care if he was joking, if I was to be found joking about that at work, I wouldn't be suspended for a month, I'd be sacked and the police would be contacted. Some people really are clueless. maybe because you're 40 years old and are supposed to have responsibilities? And the whole point is that he's joking about it with a friend. I wouldn't tell this shit to my teachers, boss (unless he's a great friend), parents,... either. I don't even understand this thread or this entire situation exists. If I'm with my friends I use black humour the whole freakin' time! Stop having a stick up your sensitive ass people. | ||
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SnuggleZhenya
596 Posts
On October 14 2012 04:05 Type|NarutO wrote: least in most countries I guess) but RAPING a girl surely is very different from having sex with a minor. Don't you agree? I don't know about other countries, but in the United States having sex with an underage person is literally called statutory rape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape That is why the term is being used here. | ||
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hephaestos
France54 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:50 MattBarry wrote: Of course the Frenchman is defending Stephano. This is inappropriate conduct for a representative of an organization. Felonies like child abuse aren't funny in any circumstance. I'm only answering the simple question that was : what is fun about Stephano's "joke". I don't see how your remark contradicts my analyse. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
That's what all this is about? Way overblown imo... he's just a kid saying dumb things on the internet. I guess EG can do what they want since he's a member of their team though. | ||
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