EPTStephano suspended by Evil Geniuses - Page 72
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
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BombaySensei
United States282 Posts
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:44 Karsaib wrote: You said you had no problem with what happened. That's what you clearly said. Sorry for not reading a 70 page topic that will be a 150 page topic by tonight. If people were actually wanting to cover their ass even in private, and "represent their company" (who the fuck cares), if there was a risk what they say would be mainstreamed, it would be a nice fuckin inner censorship. Don't want that, sorry. Give it a break, EG's decision, sponsor's decision is an outrage. Just two lines of written excuses for the stupid people that got offended would have been more than enough... Private is fine but it wasn't private and i am sure he has other ways of contacting BlinG Facebook twitter etc? It didn't have to be on Bnet to another pro player who does stream and there is a risk . He wasn't using his brain and got bit in the ass for it. Well " who the fuck cares" is the company and he is on their pay roll so he should care dont take their money if they can't follow the rules. | ||
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:46 Rammstorm wrote: Americans and their oversensitivity *facepalm* Its not really just Americans don;t blanket statement a culture. There are plenty of Americans in this Thread who are not offended. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:45 Xahhk wrote: He's obviously not condoning abuse Mr. 28 post, but private relations between people. "Age of consent is a complicated and controversial issue." ... | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
Both were obviously made in jest but as far as im concerned idra was not suspended for anything | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:45 Shakattak wrote: Sexual Maturity physically happens after puberty its not arbitrary. Cultural views on sex are arbitrary. Puberty IS sexual maturation.. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:50 lim1017 wrote: im curious how much worse people interpreted stephanos rape comment compared to idras rape david kim with a tire iron comment... Both were obviously made in jest but as far as im concerned idra was not suspended for anything Because Idra joked about it without saying " dude a 14 year old " One claimed he did it the other said a joke that clearly didn't happen | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:29 Rick Deckard wrote: I'm disappointed by this decision by EG and will be completely boycotting their sponsors as a result of this. I will never knowingly buy any product supported by EG again. Age of consent is a complicated and controversial issue. Stephano should be allowed to discuss this issue. Joking about the issue is one way of opening it up for discussion. I realize that Stephano admitted that his statement was a vulgar joke made in poor taste, but I have to consider this as a confession obtained under duress which simply makes me even more disappointed in EG. I'd like to protest against this decision by EG. Could I please be temp banned now, rather than having to make multiple expletive laden posts protesting against this decision to show my complete contempt for it. All you people trying to get things done through sponsors .... sigh. I can imagine EG sponsors: - Oh, an EG player did something bad and the fans demand that we do something. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. ------> Stephano gets punished by EG. - Oh, EG punishing Stephano caused some people to be angry. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. But hey! ..... Wait a minute, no matter what we do people try to get us to take action in accordance with someones agenda. This is not about a real boycott, is it? If this happens a few times that sponsoring company is gonna find that the SC2 scene is full of retards that cares more about drama than actual gameplay. This kind of behaviour is only gonna hurt. As for Stephanos actions I think that EG over reacted. He said something in private to a friend. He didn't know he was streaming. dBling should take responsibility for this if anything. He should have closed down that conversation before letting Stephano know he was streaming. I use a lot of that kind of humor in private with my friends. It is fun to joke about politically incorrect things. I am significantly older than Stephano and I still think it is funny. I would never write those jokes here though. Neither would I write it on twitter or facebook or say them out loud in public. I bet a lot of people are just like me. Stephano accidentaly made a politically incorrect joke in "public". If any action should be taken it is that streamers create overlays and become more careful and restrictive when chatting / talking with others while streaming. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
Sorry i messed up but thats what i mean't i was arguing that it wasnt arbitrary | ||
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Karsaib
France17 Posts
Yeah, who the fuck cares about bureaucracy ? Stephano is certainly attached to his team mates, etc.. But I don't think a 19 year old gives a damn about who pays him as long as he's paid. That's why he left Mil. That's why the idea of him censoring himself to prevent a bunch of people to get offended when said people should chill and shut up is stupid. And that's why EG giving up their player, when they should be protecting him from pressure, from sponsors, from market's influence, from dumb people (he's a kiddo, remember), is a shame. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:52 one-one-one wrote: All you people trying to get things done through sponsors .... sigh. I can imagine EG sponsors: - Oh, an EG player did something bad and the fans demand that we do something. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. ------> Stephano gets punished by EG. - Oh, EG punishing Stephano caused some people to be angry. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. But hey! ..... Wait a minute, no matter what we do people try to get us to take action in accordance with someones agenda. This is not about a real boycott, is it? If this happens a few times that sponsoring company is gonna find that the SC2 scene is full of retards that cares more about drama than actual gameplay. This kind of behaviour is only gonna hurt. As for Stephanos actions I think that EG over reacted. He said something in private to a friend. He didn't know he was streaming. dBling should take responsibility for this if anything. He should have closed down that conversation before letting Stephano know he was streaming. I use a lot of that kind of humor in private with my friends. It is fun to joke about politically incorrect things. I am significantly older than Stephano and I still think it is funny. I would never write those jokes here though. Neither would I write it on twitter or facebook or say them out loud in public. I bet a lot of people are just like me. Stephano accidentaly made a politically incorrect joke in "public". If any action should be taken it is that streamers create overlays and become more careful and restrictive when chatting / talking with others while streaming. If you wouldnt write them then why would you want to blame BlinG? It is not his fault that stephano decided to make a joke on his stream? | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:56 Karsaib wrote: "Redditers and their oversensitivity *facepalm* " Yeah, who the fuck cares about bureaucracy ? Stephano is certainly attached to his team mates, etc.. But I don't think a 19 year old gives a damn about who pays him as long as he's paid. That's why he left Mil. That's why the idea of him censoring himself to prevent a bunch of people to get offended when said people should chill and shut up is stupid. And that's why EG giving up their player, when they should be protecting him from pressure, from sponsors, from market's influence, from dumb people (he's a kiddo, remember), is a shame. They are not "giving him up" no official statement yet on that. Hell if he wants to keep getting paid and money really is that important then he should act accordingly . Is it really going to hurt him THAT much to act like an adult? He may be 19 but there are very few places in the wolrd where a person is 19 and is allowed to act like that without some form of wrist slapping. | ||
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Rick Deckard
90 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:35 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote: Are you implying that ABUSING children is even remotely debatable... as in there's a possibility that it's acceptable? O_O I'm against the EG decision and all, but you've got the whole thing twisted up. The point of the topic is not if the joke was appropriate or not, it's if a joke of its caliber made in public warrants a suspension. I'm saying that discussing the age of consent is OK, and that the decision made by EG is disappointing. I am now boycotting EG sponsors and will continue to do so until they apologize for this decision, and reimburse Stephano for any lost income. I'm OK with Stephano making his statement in public, in fact I applaud him for doing so. Raising awareness about the age of consent, and laws regarding sexual relations is a public service. I'm not condoning child abuse, absolutely not. I'm advocating freedom of information. What is the legal age of consent, and what are the penalties involved? For instance in South Korea, where Stephano is currently, the age of consent is lower than the USA. According to Wikipedia Ages_of_consent_in_Asia sexual relations with a person above the age of 13 (12?) does not appear to be illegal. | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:56 Shakattak wrote: If you wouldnt write them then why would you want to blame BlinG? It is not his fault that stephano decided to make a joke on his stream? You are looking at it too simply. It is not dBlings fault that Stephano wrote to him in the first place but it might have been his fault that it got blown out of proportions. If you are a streamer and someone who doesnt know that you are streaming starts writing to you then it is good that you tell that person about your stream being up... | ||
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.vid
Croatia227 Posts
Carlo Giannacco @ClouDsc2 What Stephano said was obviously a joke to a friend, and people who send angry letters to sponsors are real fucking idiots. Even sadder to see someone like Carmac retweeting it. | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On October 13 2012 21:03 .vid wrote: sad to see people actually supporting and justifying stephano, like this moron: Even sadder to see someone like Carmac retweeting it. How about no? | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 13 2012 21:02 one-one-one wrote: You are looking at it too simply. It is not dBlings fault that Stephano wrote to him in the first place but it might have been his fault that it got blown out of proportions. If you are a streamer and someone who doesnt know that you are streaming starts writing to you then it is good that you tell that person about your stream being up... Cause BlinG had time to close his window tell stephano that he is streaming. He had no idea what was about to ensue he shouldn't be held accountable. | ||
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