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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 12:07 GMT
#1441
On October 13 2012 21:04 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:03 .vid wrote:
sad to see people actually supporting and justifying stephano, like this moron:
Carlo Giannacco ‏@ClouDsc2

What Stephano said was obviously a joke to a friend, and people who send angry letters to sponsors are real fucking idiots.

Even sadder to see someone like Carmac retweeting it.


How about no?

I don't think people should be supporting his actions? It was clearly not alright, between friends yes but he should just find a less public way to say the joke? As unbelievable to some of you that he got in trouble its good to know there are people out there who do find this offensive.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
Karsaib
Profile Joined March 2012
France17 Posts
October 13 2012 12:07 GMT
#1442
On October 13 2012 20:58 Shakattak wrote:
They are not "giving him up" no official statement yet on that. Hell if he wants to keep getting paid and money really is that important then he should act accordingly . Is it really going to hurt him THAT much to act like an adult? He may be 19 but there are very few places in the wolrd where a person is 19 and is allowed to act like that without some form of wrist slapping.


Ye, no "official statement". Bwahahaha. They gave him up when they gave up to the pressure of the sponsors. When THEY promote the sponsors by earning them more money than the sponsors invest in them by financing them. Sponsors should be crawling. Not EG.
Stephano is everything but a usual kid. A 19 year old should usually be in college or already working. Not travelling around the world earning thousands of dollars. That's why he needs to be protected. To be honest, EG wins more in this than Stephano, in terms of influence, money etc... Or they wouldn't have hired him. Hell, if they want to keep getting money through him, they better treat him accordingly, instead of using him as he was a simple tool. There're plenty of other teams out there that would be happy to have a player like him in their roster...
Same question, is it going to hurt THAT MUCH to act like an adult and care about wiping your own ass only ?
"He has marines, so you make Colossi, and then he has zero marines and you have more ladder points." - Day[9]
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 12:10:21
October 13 2012 12:08 GMT
#1443
To me it seems pretty obvious that he did actually do it. Its not a funny joke, and its not to far fetched that a 19 year old might have banged a 14 year old, especially considering the age of consent if 15 in france and although i think a year makes a pretty big difference especially at that age it might be easy to make a bad judgement call on the age of someone. Plus he seems exactly like a creepy french perv who would do something like that.

Obviously its all just speculation, i just would see no reason for him to just joke about that and bring it up seemingly at random. Bling didn't immediately assume it was a joke, and i don't think we should either.

he never even said just kidding and he seemed fairly concerned about the stream being on after, if it was just a joke and supposed to be perceived as a joke i really dont think he would be concerned about it, people have said far worse things jokingly on far more popular streams.

I personally beleive he was either A. just lying about banging a young chick cause he thought it was cool, B. actually did bang an underaged chick.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
October 13 2012 12:08 GMT
#1444
On October 13 2012 21:05 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:02 one-one-one wrote:
On October 13 2012 20:56 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 20:52 one-one-one wrote:
On October 13 2012 20:29 Rick Deckard wrote:
I'm disappointed by this decision by EG and will be completely boycotting their sponsors as a result of this. I will never knowingly buy any product supported by EG again.

Age of consent is a complicated and controversial issue. Stephano should be allowed to discuss this issue. Joking about the issue is one way of opening it up for discussion.

I realize that Stephano admitted that his statement was a vulgar joke made in poor taste, but I have to consider this as a confession obtained under duress which simply makes me even more disappointed in EG.

I'd like to protest against this decision by EG. Could I please be temp banned now, rather than having to make multiple expletive laden posts protesting against this decision to show my complete contempt for it.


All you people trying to get things done through sponsors .... sigh.

I can imagine EG sponsors:

- Oh, an EG player did something bad and the fans demand that we do something. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. ------> Stephano gets punished by EG.

- Oh, EG punishing Stephano caused some people to be angry. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. But hey! ..... Wait a minute, no matter what we do people try to get us to take action in accordance with someones agenda. This is not about a real boycott, is it?

If this happens a few times that sponsoring company is gonna find that the SC2 scene is full of retards that cares more about drama than actual gameplay. This kind of behaviour is only gonna hurt.

As for Stephanos actions I think that EG over reacted. He said something in private to a friend. He didn't know he was streaming. dBling should take responsibility for this if anything. He should have closed down that conversation before letting Stephano know he was streaming.

I use a lot of that kind of humor in private with my friends. It is fun to joke about politically incorrect things. I am significantly older than Stephano and I still think it is funny. I would never write those jokes here though. Neither would I write it on twitter or facebook or say them out loud in public.
I bet a lot of people are just like me.

Stephano accidentaly made a politically incorrect joke in "public". If any action should be taken it is that streamers create overlays and become more careful and restrictive when chatting / talking with others while streaming.


If you wouldnt write them then why would you want to blame BlinG? It is not his fault that stephano decided to make a joke on his stream?


You are looking at it too simply.

It is not dBlings fault that Stephano wrote to him in the first place but it might have been his fault that it got blown out of proportions. If you are a streamer and someone who doesnt know that you are streaming starts writing to you then it is good that you tell that person about your stream being up...


Cause BlinG had time to close his window tell stephano that he is streaming. He had no idea what was about to ensue he shouldn't be held accountable.


Well. A few more controversies like this is what is gonna make streamers be more careful in the future.
Private conversations should be private conversations,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 12:08 GMT
#1445
On October 13 2012 21:07 Karsaib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 20:58 Shakattak wrote:
They are not "giving him up" no official statement yet on that. Hell if he wants to keep getting paid and money really is that important then he should act accordingly . Is it really going to hurt him THAT much to act like an adult? He may be 19 but there are very few places in the wolrd where a person is 19 and is allowed to act like that without some form of wrist slapping.


Ye, no "official statement". Bwahahaha. They gave him up when they gave up to the pressure of the sponsors. When THEY promote the sponsors by earning them more money than the sponsors invest in them by financing them. Sponsors should be crawling. Not EG.
Stephano is everything but a usual kid. A 19 year old should usually be in college or already working. Not travelling around the world earning thousands of dollars. That's why he needs to be protected. To be honest, EG wins more in this than Stephano, in terms of influence, money etc... Or they wouldn't have hired him. Hell, if they want to keep getting money through him, they better treat him accordingly, instead of using him as he was a simple tool. There're plenty of other teams out there that would be happy to have a player like him in their roster...
Same question, is it going to hurt THAT MUCH to act like an adult and care about wiping your own ass only ?

Not caving to the people who sponser you is usually a bad call. If EG wants to get paid they are going to do what ever the sponsers tell them too or else they lose out. Use your brain
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
October 13 2012 12:09 GMT
#1446
On October 13 2012 20:58 WhiteDog wrote:
I'm glad he was punished, because that joke is so ridiculously bad and creepy that it cannot be allowed to be told again. Ever.


You are correct, and why have people already decided that this was a joke? There is still no significant "proof" that weights more towards it being a joke. Its equal likely that he was bragging and telling the truth to a friend when he thought no one heard.
-,-
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
October 13 2012 12:09 GMT
#1447
yeah stephano sure is the victim here
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
October 13 2012 12:09 GMT
#1448
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 12:10 GMT
#1449
On October 13 2012 21:08 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:05 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:02 one-one-one wrote:
On October 13 2012 20:56 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 20:52 one-one-one wrote:
On October 13 2012 20:29 Rick Deckard wrote:
I'm disappointed by this decision by EG and will be completely boycotting their sponsors as a result of this. I will never knowingly buy any product supported by EG again.

Age of consent is a complicated and controversial issue. Stephano should be allowed to discuss this issue. Joking about the issue is one way of opening it up for discussion.

I realize that Stephano admitted that his statement was a vulgar joke made in poor taste, but I have to consider this as a confession obtained under duress which simply makes me even more disappointed in EG.

I'd like to protest against this decision by EG. Could I please be temp banned now, rather than having to make multiple expletive laden posts protesting against this decision to show my complete contempt for it.


All you people trying to get things done through sponsors .... sigh.

I can imagine EG sponsors:

- Oh, an EG player did something bad and the fans demand that we do something. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. ------> Stephano gets punished by EG.

- Oh, EG punishing Stephano caused some people to be angry. Better do something before this causes bad pr and lost sales. But hey! ..... Wait a minute, no matter what we do people try to get us to take action in accordance with someones agenda. This is not about a real boycott, is it?

If this happens a few times that sponsoring company is gonna find that the SC2 scene is full of retards that cares more about drama than actual gameplay. This kind of behaviour is only gonna hurt.

As for Stephanos actions I think that EG over reacted. He said something in private to a friend. He didn't know he was streaming. dBling should take responsibility for this if anything. He should have closed down that conversation before letting Stephano know he was streaming.

I use a lot of that kind of humor in private with my friends. It is fun to joke about politically incorrect things. I am significantly older than Stephano and I still think it is funny. I would never write those jokes here though. Neither would I write it on twitter or facebook or say them out loud in public.
I bet a lot of people are just like me.

Stephano accidentaly made a politically incorrect joke in "public". If any action should be taken it is that streamers create overlays and become more careful and restrictive when chatting / talking with others while streaming.


If you wouldnt write them then why would you want to blame BlinG? It is not his fault that stephano decided to make a joke on his stream?


You are looking at it too simply.

It is not dBlings fault that Stephano wrote to him in the first place but it might have been his fault that it got blown out of proportions. If you are a streamer and someone who doesnt know that you are streaming starts writing to you then it is good that you tell that person about your stream being up...


Cause BlinG had time to close his window tell stephano that he is streaming. He had no idea what was about to ensue he shouldn't be held accountable.


Well. A few more controversies like this is what is gonna make streamers be more careful in the future.
Private conversations should be private conversations,


I totally agree , should remain private. Thing is they should of been careful in the first place. Infact most players while streaming put there status as busy so messages don't go on their stream. Even if the public isn''t allowed to send messages to the player if on busy your Real ID friends mssages won't show up until after the game.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 12:11 GMT
#1450
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
October 13 2012 12:13 GMT
#1451
On October 13 2012 21:11 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"


I bet many of those who are "offended" are people who would laugh at the very same joke if made by a friend in private.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
October 13 2012 12:14 GMT
#1452
On October 13 2012 21:08 Executor1 wrote:
To me it seems pretty obvious that he did actually do it. Its not a funny joke, and its not to far fetched that a 19 year old might have banged a 14 year old, especially considering the age of consent if 15 in france and although i think a year makes a pretty big difference especially at that age it might be easy to make a bad judgement call on the age of someone. Plus he seems exactly like a creepy french perv who would do something like that.

Obviously its all just speculation, i just would see no reason for him to just joke about that and bring it up seemingly at random. Bling didn't immediately assume it was a joke, and i don't think we should either.

he never even said just kidding and he seemed fairly concerned about the stream being on after, if it was just a joke and supposed to be perceived as a joke i really dont think he would be concerned about it, people have said far worse things jokingly on far more popular streams.

I personally beleive he was either A. just lying about banging a young chick cause he thought it was cool, B. actually did bang an underaged chick.



I agree with your last statement, it's probably A. or B. There is nothing pointing towards a joke, it's looks like its bragging/lying to be cool or just telling a true story.
-,-
jobebob
Profile Joined April 2011
30 Posts
October 13 2012 12:14 GMT
#1453
On October 13 2012 21:11 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"


But from what I understand, they were the ones to take up the reddit pitchforks.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 13 2012 12:14 GMT
#1454
Makes sense. Hopefully he learns from this.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 13 2012 12:15 GMT
#1455
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.


Yes, because only feminists care about the well being of children.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 12:16 GMT
#1456
On October 13 2012 21:14 jobebob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:11 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"


But from what I understand, they were the ones to take up the reddit pitchforks.

True, but just cause a type of group took up arms doesn't mean that only people from that group are the ones who rally to the call.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
October 13 2012 12:17 GMT
#1457
aha so the JP/Redeye/Genna did had a scoop, old news i guess then
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 12:17 GMT
#1458
On October 13 2012 21:13 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:11 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"


I bet many of those who are "offended" are people who would laugh at the very same joke if made by a friend in private.

Well then they are hypocrites if its the context that offended them and thats what they were offended about then in private it should also offend them.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
egilas
Profile Joined August 2012
France8 Posts
October 13 2012 12:18 GMT
#1459
Ok well, it's just about cultural point of view...

In france we have the liberty to say some bullshits, trolling since the revolution in books in Tv in newspaper etc... we can extend, in europe people have some cultural skill and know when it's a joke etc...

In my point of view US are more disapointed by sex/irony/blasphemy... than true violence etc...

So, stephano must change his behavior if he stay in US-Team, but guys seriously.. upgrade your knowlegde.

(sorry for my english)
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
October 13 2012 12:18 GMT
#1460
On October 13 2012 21:04 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 21:03 .vid wrote:
sad to see people actually supporting and justifying stephano, like this moron:
Carlo Giannacco ‏@ClouDsc2

What Stephano said was obviously a joke to a friend, and people who send angry letters to sponsors are real fucking idiots.

Even sadder to see someone like Carmac retweeting it.


How about no?

Seeing where you're from, I can understand you find it normal to bang elementary school kiddies.

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