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On October 13 2012 09:09 Pwnzer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:06 Dali. wrote:On October 13 2012 09:04 turdburgler wrote:On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology. http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.pngsome people cant take a fjucking joke? I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped. im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend? I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke. oh ok, what you have to do here is just flick that switch in your head that turns you from super serious mode in to funny ha ha mode, if stephano had only given you a 15 minute warning and charged you $10 for a ticket. youd be rolling on the floor holding your sides. Go tell a rape joke about a minor to 100 customers/staff at your work. I'd love to hear how its goes for you. That's not even close to being the same situation. He thought it was a PM between him and bling. It's not like he intended to broadcast it to everyone in the community. Even if you find his humor in poor taste he still has a right to joke about things he himself finds funny between him and a friend.
So if I tell a joke to my friend in an office while he happens project it over the loud speaker to everyone in the store I somehow have immunity? I don't think my employer would give a damn about my misfortune and would gladly throw me under the bus to take the heat off his business.
I think its actually a funny situation, mostly because of BlinG's face which accompanies the text. I've got nothing against utterly fowl jokes, bad words etcetc. HOWEVER were I to say something inappropriate at work or have my carelessness in what I thought was private conversation come back to haunt me, then I fully understand that I'm going to be in the shit for it.
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2012 09:09 Femari wrote:Regardless of what abuse means there, it's still nothing you should ever joke about. Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:09 Sabu113 wrote:On October 13 2012 09:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:51 bgx wrote:On October 13 2012 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:37 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.
When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed. You're disappointed in EG that they hired a self-proclaimed rapist? I don't think EG was aware of that when they hired him. And I reeeeeally hope that Stephano was just trolling. Until we get further information that clarifies he actually sexually assaulted anyone, the assumption is that he was trolling. And the punishment is over-the-top bullshit. I agree we can assume (hope) that, but this is the worst attempt at a "joke" ever on his part. What an immensely immature thing to say. But you do realize this is Stephano- someone who's known for not only saying ridiculous things, but doing them too? It's not exactly the most absurd assumption in the world to think he was running his mouth off in a private conversation that he thought wasn't going to be streamed to the public, and then he backtracked and said it was only a joke (although I sincerely hope he was just trying to be funny, rather than him actually raping a little girl). Now you have to put faith in your team that they are actually not defending rapist. EG's acquisition of Stephano almost made me switch my team icon back to SKT (it was SKT until the SC2 icons came out), but I like some of the other EG players too much at the moment. On October 13 2012 08:52 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:37 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.
When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed. You're disappointed in EG that they hired a self-proclaimed rapist? I don't think EG was aware of that when they hired him. And I reeeeeally hope that Stephano was just trolling. Until we get further information that clarifies he actually sexually assaulted anyone, the assumption is that he was trolling. And the punishment is over-the-top bullshit. I agree we can assume (hope) that, but this is the worst attempt at a "joke" ever on his part. What an immensely immature thing to say. But you do realize this is Stephano- someone who's known for not only saying ridiculous things, but doing them too? It's not exactly the most absurd assumption in the world to think he was running his mouth off in a private conversation that he thought wasn't going to be streamed to the public, and then he backtracked and said it was only a joke (although I sincerely hope he was just trying to be funny, rather than him actually raping a little girl). Who knows what kind of fucked up sense of humor he has between himself and Bling? It wasn't even intended to be seen on stream anyways. Even if it's Stephano, I really doubt he's going to rape a 14 year old. How often does he elude to committing felony crimes punishable upwards of 10?If his humor is really that off-putting then rational people can think for themselves and declare they don't like nor want to support Stephano. Then they stop watching his stream and his games. That's it. I'm assuming they got their sponsors e-mailed when the comments were first made but I could be entirely wrong, which is why I'm not totally enraged just yet. While I don't think he actually raped her, the argument of "Well he's never raped her before, so he probably didn't rape her this time" is pretty much the worst argument ever to defend someone accused of rape. Also, keep in mind he's already been arrested and he's known for pretty much being a jerk. But again, I'm just going to assume he was trolling in bad taste. Hey could you provide some sourcing and further information about the arrest? Or this post is defamation of character. He got drunk at a MLG I think, but I remember him staying in jail for a night.
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14 used to be age of consent in Canada
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Lol. What ridiculousness...
On October 13 2012 09:14 Mblak wrote:
14 used to be age of consent in Canada
The age of consent for sexual activity is 16 years. It was raised from 14 years on May 1, 2008 by the Tackling Violent Crime Act.
However, the age of consent is 18 years where the sexual activity "exploits" the young person -- when it involves prostitution, pornography or occurs in a relationship of authority, trust or dependency (e.g., with a teacher, coach or babysitter). Sexual activity can also be considered exploitative based on the nature and circumstances of the relationship, e.g., the young person's age, the age difference between the young person and their partner, how the relationship developed (quickly, secretly, or over the Internet) and how the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person.
People are so quick to forget lol
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EG making a bigger deal out of this than needed, and losing money from potential tournament wins Stephano could have had.
Dumbasses.
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On October 13 2012 09:09 Femari wrote:Regardless of what abuse means there, it's still nothing you should ever joke about. Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:09 Sabu113 wrote:On October 13 2012 09:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:51 bgx wrote:On October 13 2012 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:37 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.
When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed. You're disappointed in EG that they hired a self-proclaimed rapist? I don't think EG was aware of that when they hired him. And I reeeeeally hope that Stephano was just trolling. Until we get further information that clarifies he actually sexually assaulted anyone, the assumption is that he was trolling. And the punishment is over-the-top bullshit. I agree we can assume (hope) that, but this is the worst attempt at a "joke" ever on his part. What an immensely immature thing to say. But you do realize this is Stephano- someone who's known for not only saying ridiculous things, but doing them too? It's not exactly the most absurd assumption in the world to think he was running his mouth off in a private conversation that he thought wasn't going to be streamed to the public, and then he backtracked and said it was only a joke (although I sincerely hope he was just trying to be funny, rather than him actually raping a little girl). Now you have to put faith in your team that they are actually not defending rapist. EG's acquisition of Stephano almost made me switch my team icon back to SKT (it was SKT until the SC2 icons came out), but I like some of the other EG players too much at the moment. On October 13 2012 08:52 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:37 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.
When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed. You're disappointed in EG that they hired a self-proclaimed rapist? I don't think EG was aware of that when they hired him. And I reeeeeally hope that Stephano was just trolling. Until we get further information that clarifies he actually sexually assaulted anyone, the assumption is that he was trolling. And the punishment is over-the-top bullshit. I agree we can assume (hope) that, but this is the worst attempt at a "joke" ever on his part. What an immensely immature thing to say. But you do realize this is Stephano- someone who's known for not only saying ridiculous things, but doing them too? It's not exactly the most absurd assumption in the world to think he was running his mouth off in a private conversation that he thought wasn't going to be streamed to the public, and then he backtracked and said it was only a joke (although I sincerely hope he was just trying to be funny, rather than him actually raping a little girl). Who knows what kind of fucked up sense of humor he has between himself and Bling? It wasn't even intended to be seen on stream anyways. Even if it's Stephano, I really doubt he's going to rape a 14 year old. How often does he elude to committing felony crimes punishable upwards of 10?If his humor is really that off-putting then rational people can think for themselves and declare they don't like nor want to support Stephano. Then they stop watching his stream and his games. That's it. I'm assuming they got their sponsors e-mailed when the comments were first made but I could be entirely wrong, which is why I'm not totally enraged just yet. While I don't think he actually raped her, the argument of "Well he's never raped her before, so he probably didn't rape her this time" is pretty much the worst argument ever to defend someone accused of rape. Also, keep in mind he's already been arrested and he's known for pretty much being a jerk. But again, I'm just going to assume he was trolling in bad taste. Hey could you provide some sourcing and further information about the arrest? Or this post is defamation of character. He got drunk at a MLG I think, but I remember him staying in jail for a night.
Hey want to clarify what I meant. I interpreted what he wrote as he got arrested for something related to rape. That this was more than a joke but actually circumstantial evidence in a more serious accusation of pedophilia.
So to clarify, he has not been accused nor investigated for any rape. As far as we know, this was a joking statement not some mistaken confession.
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On October 13 2012 09:12 schimmetje wrote:
Hahaha well it's a funny joke now!
He made a joke which was obviously bad taste. Yeah bad taste can be funny, it's still bad taste. He also did it in a public place, which forced EG to respond because that's how people like their SC2 these days..
This pretty much sums up everything.
It doesn't matter if it was supposed to be private. It isn't right now, is it?
It doesn't matter if it was supposed to be a joke. It is in bad taste.
It doesn't matter if it is "normal" for people to joke like that. It doesn't change the fact you really shouldn't.
EG's only option was to respond this way. It would be incredibly stupid of them not to.
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Funny how Stephano gets suspended for bm, but Idra gets a raise
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The best part about the screenshots is Bling's face.
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On October 13 2012 09:09 Pwnzer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:06 Dali. wrote:On October 13 2012 09:04 turdburgler wrote:On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology. http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.pngsome people cant take a fjucking joke? I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped. im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend? I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke. oh ok, what you have to do here is just flick that switch in your head that turns you from super serious mode in to funny ha ha mode, if stephano had only given you a 15 minute warning and charged you $10 for a ticket. youd be rolling on the floor holding your sides. Go tell a rape joke about a minor to 100 customers/staff at your work. I'd love to hear how its goes for you. That's not even close to being the same situation. He thought it was a PM between him and bling. It's not like he intended to broadcast it to everyone in the community. Even if you find his humor in poor taste he still has a right to joke about things he himself finds funny between him and a friend.
I don't know young kids these days, but I never considered PM in SC2 private. You say something on the internet, then it is public for christ's sake. It is on record, especially if you know the other guy streams from time to time. I might joke about the same thing, but never on the internet, only face to face among friends. Never joke about inappropriate stuffs on the internet among friends or not. Destiny, Stephano etc...why these youngsters make this mistake....internet is never private, man. At least, that's how I look at it.
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i mean, its EGs call. im SURE they talked about this with him a TON before they made their decision
for all of you who disagree with the decision, maybe theres more they're not telling us.
for all of you who DO agree with the decision, maybe thers more they're not telling us...
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This is the problem I have with mixing the community scene with the professional scene. Everyone goes crazy about controlling stuff, and its not their fault they have to. But lots of people joke about stuff worse than this and they aren't punished. I feel that by having the scenes so entangled it takes a lot of the freedom the players have away.
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On October 13 2012 09:04 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology. http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.pngsome people cant take a fjucking joke? I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped. im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend? I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke. oh ok, what you have to do here is just flick that switch in your head that turns you from super serious mode in to funny ha ha mode, if stephano had only given you a 15 minute warning and charged you $10 for a ticket. youd be rolling on the floor holding your sides.
Oh okay, now I get it  Has nothing to do with his profession, the context of the situation, or how he behaves in general. Thanks 
On October 13 2012 09:04 Pwnzer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology. http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.pngsome people cant take a fjucking joke? I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped. im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend? I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke. Honestly I don't get the difference. You say you "assume he was trolling" but you go into a comedy show assuming the same thing right? You wouldn't be laughing if you seriously thought the comedian on stage had actually done some of the things he was joking about, so why would you be upset with Stephano for making a joke and not someone else? Is it just the setting that you didn't like? Also he never used the word "rape" so I wish people would stop saying that.
Sorry, you're right that he technically said he abused a 14 year old girl and that he's interested in kids. Of course, anyone can put 2 and 2 together and figure out that that kind of abuse would be sexual (rather than hitting her or something), but he did not use the word rape. But he clearly implied it. I think people are justified in using the word rape to describe the situation though.
And again, it comes down to his profession, the context of the situation, and how he behaves in general. He's not a comedian, and the environment appeared to be private (as far as Stephano knew/ said he knew: "fuck just noticed you were streaming"). It's often times very hard to tell whether or not someone is being sarcastic over the internet without some sort of cue (like a winking face), and so I'm going to assume Stephano's trolling, but the joke is a lot harder to get across than if it was a known comedian on stage telling it verbally with the right set up and circumstances. It was in bad taste, and Stephano should have known it would have been received poorly.
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On October 13 2012 09:11 iDope wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:07 Swords wrote:On October 13 2012 09:05 iDope wrote:
Kind of funny how writing "lol JK" instead of "OMG I hope you didn't show this to all the viewers" would have turned things around at least 90%.. I'm sure he feels the same. Also makes it more unlikely that he was joking. Obviously there's no way to know for sure. I do find it hilarious though that everyone thinks this has been blown way out of proportion and doesn't look that bad when Stephano himself immediately realized he had fucked up and put himself in serious trouble. I sure as hell hope and kind of believe he was joking. I mean he used the word "abused" which really could mean anything and I am sure he is not THAT stupid.
Yeah, I really hope he was too. Regardless he knows he fucked up (guilty or not), EG knows he fucked up (suspension is a very reasonable punishment, same thing many professional sports teams would do), and the sponsors are likely placated. People here are just being ridiculous about it as usual. This is probably one of the best handled PR screwups by a player and everyone is losing their shit over a month's suspension. Stephano will be back and he will be coming off a month of training in Korea.
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Ok guys let's just not make a bigger deal than it already has become. Let's just see what Stephano has to say and just leave it at that. Let's just move on. I can understand how big this can be with all the fanboys lol
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On October 13 2012 09:15 Coledash wrote:
Funny how Stephano gets suspended for bm, but Idra gets a raise
You seem confused sc2 bm =/= porking 14 year olds
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I bet you he's pissed he didn't stay with Mill. No way they'd throw him under the bus like this, EG's fucking around with fire.
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On October 13 2012 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:37 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.
When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed. You're disappointed in EG that they hired a self-proclaimed rapist? I don't think EG was aware of that when they hired him. And I reeeeeally hope that Stephano was just trolling. Until we get further information that clarifies he actually sexually assaulted anyone, the assumption is that he was trolling. And the punishment is over-the-top bullshit. I agree we can assume (hope) that, but this is the worst attempt at a "joke" ever on his part. What an immensely immature thing to say. But you do realize this is Stephano- someone who's known for not only saying ridiculous things, but doing them too? It's not exactly the most absurd assumption in the world to think he was running his mouth off in a private conversation that he thought wasn't going to be streamed to the public, and then he backtracked and said it was only a joke (although I sincerely hope he was just trying to be funny, rather than him actually raping a little girl).
You're blowing this way out of proportion. Having sex with a 14 year old is not "raping a little girl."
And humor is not some solid thing that everyone agrees on.
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Lol at anyone who thinks he was joking.
Blatantly got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
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On October 13 2012 09:03 hagrin wrote:
I can't decide as one of the older people here what's funnier -
1) Those trying to rationalize having sex with a minor
2) Those saying that child rape jokes are funny
3) Those who can't read a calendar and can't even figure out the length of the ban correctly
4) Seeing where the poster is from and then not being surprised by the content of the post
5) Those who still haven't figured out that there's more public scrutiny now than ever and you are responsible for everything you say no matter the context since the Internet won't care about context long-term.
Also, question - if sex with a 14 year old is funny, what about 12? How about 9? I want to know where the line is so I know how to craft my "jokes" for maximum effect.
Violentacrez approves of Stephano's joke (as he cries that his life is now ruined now that he's been outed). I find all of those funny. And we know perfectly well theres greater scrutiny, that doesnt validate every over the top reaction. We shouldnt expect the community to bash stephano if he burps without covering his mouth, and we shouldnt expect them to bash him for a fucking tepid [at worst] joke.
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