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Vespasian
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania44 Posts
October 13 2012 00:06 GMT
#261
If EG lets him go they used this small thing(if he joked and it does not prove real) for something else they have a cover now to do . Tbh Idra said x times more often things more "heavy" and they did not do squat. I dont consider EG a proper team tbh , it s more of a marketing enterprise as they just buy good players "at the moment" to market them. Almost none of there players actually improved or stayed at the same level after being acquired pro house and all...
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:07:54
October 13 2012 00:06 GMT
#262
I'd just like to point out here before this debate continues that the cynical among you may have noticed he was only suspended for the month of October after first pulling out of every league in October to go to Korea and train for the GSL which is next month anyway. He apparently isn't being paid but guess who paid for his plane ticket to Korea. He is receiving funds to continue 'work' during the month, and he isn't missing out on a single event he would want to be at.

he isn't suspended, this is a PR stunt.


you may now carry on arguing
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 13 2012 00:07 GMT
#263
On October 13 2012 09:05 Xapti wrote:
I honestly think Stephano should try Suing EG for what they did, at least depending on what the player's contract says.

Frankly this whole incident makes me absolutely hate EG management, and in general like EG much less (to the point of dislike perhaps). I think it was a ridiculously stupid choice to punish someone to this extent, especially when it is done so quickly without warning or more discussion.


What? How could you possibly know how much discussion there has been.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
sephiria
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
106 Posts
October 13 2012 00:07 GMT
#264
Not a stephano fan
but it's sad to see that sc2 also bows to political correctness in cases where it's clearly unnecessary. That guy is 19, he is still a child more or less. Also who cares? I don't
I get why EG reacted though.
seg.fault
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3 Posts
October 13 2012 00:07 GMT
#265
On October 13 2012 09:03 Insoleet wrote:Ok so i dont know all details of US English, sorry my bad.

But still, why do american talk about "Rape" for "having consensual sex with a minor" ?! Thats kind of strange.

Statutory sex would match more the situation..


The (original) idea is that a child can't give informed consent because they aren't mature enough (i.e. the child might think that anyone who has sex wants to start a relationship with them or something). The current laws don't quite match that philosophy--for one thing, 18 is too old for that argument to hold--but we still use the term 'statutory rape' to mean having sex with someone under-age.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
October 13 2012 00:07 GMT
#266
This thread really should be closed.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
October 13 2012 00:07 GMT
#267
On October 13 2012 09:05 iDope wrote:
Kind of funny how writing "lol JK" instead of "OMG I hope you didn't show this to all the viewers" would have turned things around at least 90%.. I'm sure he feels the same.


Also makes it more unlikely that he was joking.

Obviously there's no way to know for sure. I do find it hilarious though that everyone thinks this has been blown way out of proportion and doesn't look that bad when Stephano himself immediately realized he had fucked up and put himself in serious trouble.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
October 13 2012 00:07 GMT
#268
On October 13 2012 09:04 Maxhster wrote:
thats what you get when you sign with a team that cares more about sponsors than it does SC2...
sad day

... huh?

I'm pretty sure that the opinion of the people providing the checks that fund your business are more important than the community's opinion of you. TL/reddit doesn't pay Stephano's salary. EG does. And EG is reliant on their sponsors.

Ugh, the ignorance in this thread is astounding. What happened to TL...
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#269
On October 13 2012 09:03 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:00 creamyturtle wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:59 Insoleet wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:58 creamyturtle wrote:
Still can't tell if Stephano joking or statutory raping...


Abuse does not means rape in french. I dont know why every US people thinks he said "Hey bro, i raped a girl last night !"

lol.


Statutory rape implies consensual sex with a minor. NOT actual rape, fool.


Ok so i dont know all details of US English, sorry my bad.

But still, why do american talk about "Rape" for "having consensual sex with a minor" ?! Thats kind of strange.

Statutory sex would match more the situation..


In the U.S. Sex with a minor is always considered rape if there is an adult having sex with a child
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#270
On October 13 2012 09:06 turdburgler wrote:
I'd just like to point out here before this debate continues that the cynical among you may have noticed he was only suspended for the month of October after first pulling out of every league in October to go to Korea and train for the GSL which is next month anyway. He apparently isn't being paid but guess who paid for his plane ticket to Korea. He is receiving funds to continue 'work' during the month, and he isn't missing out on a single event he would want to be at.

he isn't suspended, this is a PR stunt.


you may now carry on arguing



Yeah it's basically no big deal/formality.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:08:50
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#271
On October 13 2012 09:06 Vespasian wrote:
If EG lets him go they used this small thing(if he joked and it does not prove real) for something else they have a cover now to do . Tbh Idra said x times more often things more "heavy" and they did not do squat. I dont consider EG a proper team tbh , it s more of a marketing enterprise as they just buy good players "at the moment" to market them. Almost none of there players actually improved or stayed at the same level after being acquired pro house and all...


Like what. What has IdrA ever said that compared to having sex with a minor?
You believe saying "fuck you" 20x to a person is worse than saying "I had sex with a 14 yo" once?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#272
On October 13 2012 08:32 bonifaceviii wrote:
CURSED

hhahahahahaahah.

good PR EG. WP, I agree. I'll just ignore the idea that stephano may of hooked up with a 14 yo
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Beavo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:10:04
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#273
If I were to come across someone in my clinic, in the hozpital or on the street talking about this I am legally intended to call the police ASAP. And I have done so a few times. If something like this was said on facebook guarentee the police would be involved.

This literally disgusts me, no one here has any idea if this is a joke and no one knows the context except for Stephano. Half the people here has clearly never met anyone who has been raped or they would not defend him or make jokes about this. Joking about raping a child is not normql. I am glad EG did something about it, hopefully he won't make such tasteless jokes in the future. (I really hope it was a JOKE)
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#274
If setting the standards is suspending a players without pay for having said something semi-privately, I might have to leave esports soon.

Was he prosecuted or even accused by any legal authority ? Not that I know of. It's a completely ridiculous way to justify getting a free discount out of his paycheck. Should we have the industry EG so dearly wishes to create, Stephano's agent would be filling a formal opposition to this unilateral decision right now.

Also I'm waiting for a hypocritical statement of Mr. Robinson, the truth seeker, very soon.
AC3
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada337 Posts
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#275
I remember Scoots and Stephano sitting on the GD couch at Dreamhack Summer this year where Scoots told him that if he were ever on EG, the incidents (hungover at events/excessive drinking/drunk tank) that Mill brushed off would not be acceptable and would of resulted in a fine or a suspension. Glad to see a team sticking to their guns and holding the player accountable for his actions.

It's obvious that Stephano was in no way serious about the comments made (definitely understand the shock-value comedy he was going for) however he needs to realize that EG has some of the highet standards of any team in eSports. Saying things that, even in context, are just downright questionable, could have an impact on the entire brand he now represents. Hopefully this suspension let's him know that EG aren't going to let him run the show as it seems he did with his last team.

GL in Korea Stephano, become even more of a monster in the next month and crush face the rest of 2012 (GSL?!?)
"The idea is to try to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another" -- Richard Feynman
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
October 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#276
On October 13 2012 09:05 Xapti wrote:
I honestly think Stephano should try Suing EG for what they did, at least depending on what the player's contract says.

Frankly this whole incident makes me absolutely hate EG management, and in general like EG much less (to the point of dislike perhaps). I think it was a ridiculously stupid choice to punish someone to this extent, especially when it is done so quickly without warning or more discussion.

What is there to discuss? They pay him a shitton of money and all he has to do is play ball.

LOL people complain about Koreans being "boring" (horseshit), I hope you find the best foreigner really exciting now!
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Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:09:30
October 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#277
On October 13 2012 09:03 hagrin wrote:
I can't decide as one of the older people here what's funnier -

1) Those trying to rationalize having sex with a minor
2) Those saying that child rape jokes are funny
3) Those who can't read a calendar and can't even figure out the length of the ban correctly
4) Seeing where the poster is from and then not being surprised by the content of the post
5) Those who still haven't figured out that there's more public scrutiny now than ever and you are responsible for everything you say no matter the context since the Internet won't care about context long-term.

Also, question - if sex with a 14 year old is funny, what about 12? How about 9? I want to know where the line is so I know how to craft my "jokes" for maximum effect.

Violentacrez approves of Stephano's joke (as he cries that his life is now ruined now that he's been outed).


It still jokes. Weird jokes maybe, but jokes. And it makes people laugh.
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
October 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#278
On October 13 2012 09:06 Dali. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:04 turdburgler wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology.

http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.png

some people cant take a fjucking joke?


I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped.


im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian


Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend?

I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke.


oh ok, what you have to do here is just flick that switch in your head that turns you from super serious mode in to funny ha ha mode, if stephano had only given you a 15 minute warning and charged you $10 for a ticket. youd be rolling on the floor holding your sides.


Go tell a rape joke about a minor to 100 customers/staff at your work. I'd love to hear how its goes for you.


That's not even close to being the same situation. He thought it was a PM between him and bling. It's not like he intended to broadcast it to everyone in the community. Even if you find his humor in poor taste he still has a right to joke about things he himself finds funny between him and a friend.
Herp Derp
Kaasstengel
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands15 Posts
October 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#279
He is like Balotelli in football. Great player, strange ways :-/
xCherubiMx
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
October 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#280
The way I see it if your industry is playing video games, then get a sense of humor. I understand trying to stay professional about things, but boys will be boys, and kids will be kids. At the end of the day, for the average fan its about entertainment. These arent role models, they are people from the internet culture, some of them are just funnier than others. Im more offended that adults actually thought this had any effect outside of some butthurt. I think we owe 'Stephano' an apology for infringing upon his freedom of speech, and unless you plan to investigate him and entertain the notion that he may be a pedophile that is what this amounts too.
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