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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44253 Posts
October 13 2012 00:03 GMT
#241
On October 13 2012 08:51 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:37 rd wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.

When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed.


You're disappointed in EG that they hired a self-proclaimed rapist? I don't think EG was aware of that when they hired him. And I reeeeeally hope that Stephano was just trolling.


Until we get further information that clarifies he actually sexually assaulted anyone, the assumption is that he was trolling. And the punishment is over-the-top bullshit.


I agree we can assume (hope) that, but this is the worst attempt at a "joke" ever on his part. What an immensely immature thing to say.

But you do realize this is Stephano- someone who's known for not only saying ridiculous things, but doing them too? It's not exactly the most absurd assumption in the world to think he was running his mouth off in a private conversation that he thought wasn't going to be streamed to the public, and then he backtracked and said it was only a joke (although I sincerely hope he was just trying to be funny, rather than him actually raping a little girl).

Now you have to put faith in your team that they are actually not defending rapist.


EG's acquisition of Stephano almost made me switch my team icon back to SKT (it was SKT until the SC2 icons came out), but I like some of the other EG players too much at the moment.

On October 13 2012 08:52 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:37 rd wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.

When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situations and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed.


You're disappointed in EG that they hired a self-proclaimed rapist? I don't think EG was aware of that when they hired him. And I reeeeeally hope that Stephano was just trolling.


Until we get further information that clarifies he actually sexually assaulted anyone, the assumption is that he was trolling. And the punishment is over-the-top bullshit.


I agree we can assume (hope) that, but this is the worst attempt at a "joke" ever on his part. What an immensely immature thing to say.

But you do realize this is Stephano- someone who's known for not only saying ridiculous things, but doing them too? It's not exactly the most absurd assumption in the world to think he was running his mouth off in a private conversation that he thought wasn't going to be streamed to the public, and then he backtracked and said it was only a joke (although I sincerely hope he was just trying to be funny, rather than him actually raping a little girl).


Who knows what kind of fucked up sense of humor he has between himself and Bling? It wasn't even intended to be seen on stream anyways. Even if it's Stephano, I really doubt he's going to rape a 14 year old. How often does he elude to committing felony crimes punishable upwards of 10?

If his humor is really that off-putting then rational people can think for themselves and declare they don't like nor want to support Stephano. Then they stop watching his stream and his games. That's it. I'm assuming they got their sponsors e-mailed when the comments were first made but I could be entirely wrong, which is why I'm not totally enraged just yet.


While I don't think he actually raped her, the argument of "Well he's never raped her before, so he probably didn't rape her this time" is pretty much the worst argument ever to defend someone accused of rape. Also, keep in mind he's already been arrested and he's known for pretty much being a jerk. But again, I'm just going to assume he was trolling in bad taste.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 13 2012 00:03 GMT
#242
I guess EG can't handle to have a good player on their team
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
TwiStEr
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany115 Posts
October 13 2012 00:03 GMT
#243
Baring him form all coming tournaments .. yeah thx EG ...

Didnt like you before but your image was improving ... back in the toilet for me ....

Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
October 13 2012 00:03 GMT
#244
On October 13 2012 09:00 creamyturtle wrote:
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On October 13 2012 08:59 Insoleet wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:58 creamyturtle wrote:
Still can't tell if Stephano joking or statutory raping...


Abuse does not means rape in french. I dont know why every US people thinks he said "Hey bro, i raped a girl last night !"

lol.


Statutory rape implies consensual sex with a minor. NOT actual rape, fool.


Ok so i dont know all details of US English, sorry my bad.

But still, why do american talk about "Rape" for "having consensual sex with a minor" ?! Thats kind of strange.

Statutory sex would match more the situation..
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:04:08
October 13 2012 00:03 GMT
#245
On October 13 2012 09:03 ReachTheSky wrote:
Its funny how Idra never got shit like this for his frequent comments.


So.. what did idra say that was so bad? Let's not drag someone else in this..
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hagrin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
October 13 2012 00:03 GMT
#246
I can't decide as one of the older people here what's funnier -

1) Those trying to rationalize having sex with a minor
2) Those saying that child rape jokes are funny
3) Those who can't read a calendar and can't even figure out the length of the ban correctly
4) Seeing where the poster is from and then not being surprised by the content of the post
5) Those who still haven't figured out that there's more public scrutiny now than ever and you are responsible for everything you say no matter the context since the Internet won't care about context long-term.

Also, question - if sex with a 14 year old is funny, what about 12? How about 9? I want to know where the line is so I know how to craft my "jokes" for maximum effect.

Violentacrez approves of Stephano's joke (as he cries that his life is now ruined now that he's been outed).
Ronski
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland266 Posts
October 13 2012 00:04 GMT
#247
This just makes me lose respect for EG. Stupid jokes leading into a suspension of their number 1 player, they should know better than to blindly follow reddit and the idiots on it.

-Teams should support and help their players instead of just suspend them everytime they make mistakes.
I am a tank. I am covered head to toe in solid plate mail. I carry a block of metal the size of a 4 door sedan to hide behind. If you see me running - you should too.
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
October 13 2012 00:04 GMT
#248
On October 13 2012 09:00 kc wrote:
T_T a month for joking around on sc2? ...

Keep in mind that for EG SC2 is not just a game, its a espots business.
excellent!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:04:57
October 13 2012 00:04 GMT
#249
On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology.

http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.png

some people cant take a fjucking joke?


I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped.


im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian


Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend?

I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke.


oh ok, what you have to do here is just flick that switch in your head that turns you from super serious mode in to funny ha ha mode, if stephano had only given you a 15 minute warning and charged you $10 for a ticket. youd be rolling on the floor holding your sides.

On October 13 2012 09:03 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 09:03 ReachTheSky wrote:
Its funny how Idra never got shit like this for his frequent comments.


So.. what did idra say that was so bad? Let's not drag someone else in this..


it involves a tyre iron and david kims anal virginity.
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
October 13 2012 00:04 GMT
#250
On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology.

http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.png

some people cant take a fjucking joke?


I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped.


im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian


Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend?

I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke.


Honestly I don't get the difference. You say you "assume he was trolling" but you go into a comedy show assuming the same thing right? You wouldn't be laughing if you seriously thought the comedian on stage had actually done some of the things he was joking about, so why would you be upset with Stephano for making a joke and not someone else? Is it just the setting that you didn't like? Also he never used the word "rape" so I wish people would stop saying that.
Herp Derp
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
October 13 2012 00:04 GMT
#251
thats what you get when you sign with a team that cares more about sponsors than it does SC2...
sad day
rawr
iDope
Profile Joined October 2010
Saudi Arabia223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:07:42
October 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#252
Kind of funny how writing "lol JK" instead of "OMG I hope you didn't show this to all the viewers" would have turned things around at least 90%.. I'm sure he feels the same, and I sure as hell hope he didn't do what he was "joking" about.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:05:35
October 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#253
On October 13 2012 08:34 whatevername wrote:
edit: Donno why he got suspended for a joke, this community is WAY too sensitive.

Yeah, fucking hilarious, right?

Steph good at sc2 but apparently not too bright
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
October 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#254
Meh, even for the people defending the "joke" which was in extremely poor taste, EG has the right to suspend their players if they feel that their brand is misrepresented by his comments. At the end of the Stephano is an employee of EG, people have been fired for far lighter offenses in the real world, why would something like this not result in a suspension?


He fucked up the terms of his contract, I'd assume, and therefore he should pay for it.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 00:10:41
October 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#255
I honestly think Stephano should try Suing EG for what they did, at least depending on what the player's contract says.

Frankly this whole incident makes me absolutely hate EG management, and in general like EG much less (to the point of dislike perhaps). I think it was a ridiculously stupid choice to punish someone to this extent, especially when it is done so quickly without warning or more discussion.

On October 13 2012 09:05 Falconblade wrote:
Meh, even for the people defending the "joke" which was in extremely poor taste, EG has the right to suspend their players if they feel that their brand is misrepresented by his comments.

1. They were personal comments though — it's not his fault they were released to the public

2. Just because EG feels that it portrays them wrong, I don't think it gives them right to punish/react to it (although they can still do it). I think it's up to judge/jury/whatever to decide if his actions were representative of EG and if they were offensive enough to be a problem for EG's reputation (if Stephano wants to defend himself). A person can't just be offended, they have to be considered to have reasonable ground to be offended (something that others would agree with).
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#256
On October 13 2012 09:04 Maxhster wrote:
thats what you get when you sign with a team that cares more about sponsors than it does SC2...
sad day

As lame as it is, no sponsors no eSports dood
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#257
On October 13 2012 09:00 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:52 Medrea wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology.

http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.png

some people cant take a fjucking joke?


I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped.


im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian


You can debatably joke about rape, you can joke about children. You can't joke about raping children.

If it was even a joke, which is not really believable, given the words that were said and the context they were put in.

Honestly, this isn't the last we will hear about this.


I beg to differ. One of the jokes I tell that will get more laughs than pretty much every other one I know involves a guy having sex with a 13 year old girl....

Also, go see a Jimmy Carr DVD. He is one of the most successful comedians in the world right now and a joke of his (one of his favourite jokes I might add) goes as follows... I'll spoiler it so that anyone who doesn't want to be offended doesn't have to be

+ Show Spoiler +
How do you know when your girlfriend is too young? You have to make the aeroplane noise to get your cock in her mouth.


Sorry but that shit is funny. You don't have to mean it, its JUST A JOKE


If you were well known (celebrity), I know you wouldn't make that joke. Too smart.
twitch.tv/medrea
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 13 2012 00:06 GMT
#258
What exactly did he say? I don't get it. This seems to harmless to be suspending him over, but I'm not one of the big guys over at EG or the sponsors, so I can't accurately comment on it. On the surface though, this seems way too harsh. He was trolling on Bling's stream? Big deal!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
McDutch
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands184 Posts
October 13 2012 00:06 GMT
#259
On October 13 2012 09:03 hagrin wrote:
I can't decide as one of the older people here what's funnier -

1) Those trying to rationalize having sex with a minor
2) Those saying that child rape jokes are funny
3) Those who can't read a calendar and can't even figure out the length of the ban correctly
4) Seeing where the poster is from and then not being surprised by the content of the post
5) Those who still haven't figured out that there's more public scrutiny now than ever and you are responsible for everything you say no matter the context since the Internet won't care about context long-term.

Also, question - if sex with a 14 year old is funny, what about 12? How about 9? I want to know where the line is so I know how to craft my "jokes" for maximum effect.

Violentacrez approves of Stephano's joke (as he cries that his life is now ruined now that he's been outed).


When fooling around with your good friends, there is no line really...because everyone knows all the jokes are pure bullshit.. and because it's such alot of bullshit, it funny.. EVERYONE knows ur not serious..
naniwa, grubby, white-ra, ret
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
October 13 2012 00:06 GMT
#260
On October 13 2012 09:04 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:50 turdburgler wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 13 2012 08:38 MicroTastiC wrote:
and a lot of people negatively responded to his jokes; but HE already ISSUED an apology.

http://i.imgur.com/kVVnY.png

some people cant take a fjucking joke?


I'm going to assume that you know exactly zero people who have ever been raped.


im going to assume you've never ever laughed at a comedian


Do you really think that going to a comedy show- a place where you purposely suspend your level of ethics and acknowledge that the comedian is going to appeal to certain types of jokes to get laughs- is anything like a pro-gamer posting a single, seemingly private, rape confession to a friend?

I assume Stephano's trolling, but I'm also quite glad that he was immediately punished for such a stupid thing. A comedian obviously wouldn't be removed from the stage for making a similar joke.


oh ok, what you have to do here is just flick that switch in your head that turns you from super serious mode in to funny ha ha mode, if stephano had only given you a 15 minute warning and charged you $10 for a ticket. youd be rolling on the floor holding your sides.


Go tell a rape joke about a minor to 100 customers/staff at your work. I'd love to hear how its goes for you.
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