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On October 13 2012 08:55 SpiZe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 13 2012 08:47 SpiZe wrote:On October 13 2012 08:45 tyner wrote:On October 13 2012 08:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
Ah, I see.
Well, that's just unfortunate. People say silly shit like this jokingly all the time, but sadly for Stephano, he said it to someone that was streaming and got caught. Yes, child molestation and the like isn't a joking matter, but we can't white knight and pretend like we've never joked about taboo subjects.
Well, he's going to Korea anyway. I don't know who you hang out with, but people don't "joke" about having sex with 14 year olds. I know plenty of people who make jokes about having sex with people's sisters (that are around 13-14). It's funny stuff to say to some close friends and what not, a bit weird when you're on the internet and are a sponsored player. No, it's not "a bit weird" You know plenty of people that joke about having sex with people's under-aged sisters? If I had a sister that was 14 and my best friend made a joke about raping her I'd punch him in the face and never talk to him again. I agree that the rape part is completely over the line and and alone justify the the punishment. Raping is different than having sex but I don't see how a joke about sex with consent totally devoid of meaning whatsoever, that is similar to some sort of mother type of joke made by a good friend would make me want to stop talking to him.
ABUSE in french does not mean RAPE.
It can means having sex, kissing, easy flirt... In french, ABUSE means a LOOOT. but not RAPE.
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On October 13 2012 08:56 nuMi22 wrote:
Stephano clearly doesn't mean his apology. EG has obviously forced it upon him which makes it completely pointless.
That's assuming he even wrote it, which is unlikely.
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On October 13 2012 08:56 desarrisc wrote:
The joke was in poor taste (it simply wasn't funny, no matter how you look at it) and just bad for image of the team. EG made the right decision in suspending Stephano, and duration of suspension is fair as well.
we shall be returning to you as the designated funny police from now on.
can i get an office number, and an out of hours number in case of emergencies.
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On October 13 2012 08:43 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:39 NeonFox wrote:
Meanwhile Idra can still say people should be raped with a tire iron and call half of the NA ladder "faggots" without repercussions? Seems fair. Insulting adult males =/= joking about sex with underage girls IdrA is still an asshole, but he does it within... context? I guess.
thing is, Stephano didn't even say sex or a word directly associated with sex. He said abused, which someone might INFER to be sexual, but he may not have implied it as sexual.
Even if it was sexual implication, it was a private message between two people and not insulting any person nor was it a hateful/abusive statement — It makes absolutely no sense to suspend/punish a person for that reason alone.
Do people get banned for saying "I robbed a bank yesterday", "I killed your mother", "I kicked a dog", "I illegally crossed a street", "I had sex with a dog", etc.? something tells me no, so why would this be any different? Like I said it doesn't even specifically mention sex.
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On October 13 2012 08:54 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:52 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 13 2012 08:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 13 2012 08:47 SpiZe wrote:On October 13 2012 08:45 tyner wrote:On October 13 2012 08:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
Ah, I see.
Well, that's just unfortunate. People say silly shit like this jokingly all the time, but sadly for Stephano, he said it to someone that was streaming and got caught. Yes, child molestation and the like isn't a joking matter, but we can't white knight and pretend like we've never joked about taboo subjects.
Well, he's going to Korea anyway. I don't know who you hang out with, but people don't "joke" about having sex with 14 year olds. I know plenty of people who make jokes about having sex with people's sisters (that are around 13-14). It's funny stuff to say to some close friends and what not, a bit weird when you're on the internet and are a sponsored player. No, it's not "a bit weird" You know plenty of people that joke about having sex with people's under-aged sisters? If I had a sister that was 14 and my best friend made a joke about raping her I'd punch him in the face and never talk to him again. Sounds like you have some serious issues dude. Relax a little. I can understand black humor. If people make dead baby jokes I'm not appalled. The humor is in it being absurd. But when you specifically talk about a living person you know, and talk about raping said person, it's not funny, it's just fucked up.
Sounds like you're overreacting. Shouldn't take internet convos too serious
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On October 13 2012 08:46 Insoleet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:45 tyner wrote:On October 13 2012 08:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
Ah, I see.
Well, that's just unfortunate. People say silly shit like this jokingly all the time, but sadly for Stephano, he said it to someone that was streaming and got caught. Yes, child molestation and the like isn't a joking matter, but we can't white knight and pretend like we've never joked about taboo subjects.
Well, he's going to Korea anyway. I don't know who you hang out with, but people don't "joke" about having sex with 14 year olds. You never make jokes about death, pedophilia, racism ? You know these dark jokes... Funny jokes ! Your life must be very sad if you are always serious about this kind of things.
What a sad life he must live to not find jokes about child molestation funny.
Seriously?
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Good to know our players ability to earn a living are now dictated by the whims of r/SRS. We want them to interact with the community but they can't even interact with each other without worrying that a joke (however bad taste it may be) in what they thought was a private conversation will be seized on by a group of people who have nothing to do with esports to contact sponsors and endanger their career. This doesn't set any kind of standard for the industry, it sets a terrible precedent, and the people who have made this happen will only be emboldened by their 'success'.
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Still can't tell if Stephano joking or statutory raping...
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The fact that he apologized make it seem more like he was not joking....
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sooooo Idra still getting paid? O.o
on a more serious not, i don't think anyone is serious when talking like that and the people who are actually serious about stuff like that, i would love to shot in the nuts and then in the face, in that order
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On October 13 2012 08:34 whatevername wrote:
edit: Donno why he got suspended for a joke, this community is WAY too sensitive.
Dozen pages late for a reply for anyway.. that's a [very] nasty joke to me. You're not sensitive enough.
The fact that he apologized make it seem more like he was not joking....
You seriously think EG didn't make him apologize?
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I can say 100% that Stephano realizes that it was stupid and i don't think we should make a big deal out of it. And i can say 100% that everyone in the team EG think that was stupid of Stephano to say and they punished him for it.
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On October 13 2012 08:31 Iodem wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/csi6r.jpg)
Wow. Had no idea about any of this. That is some distasteful stuff in any context. Well done, EG.
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the funniest part is all the people talking about "rape" when he clearly used the french word, keep on going with your rape bullshit most of you are immune of looking stupid anyway
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On October 13 2012 08:58 creamyturtle wrote:
Still can't tell if Stephano joking or statutory raping...
Abuse does not means rape in french. I dont know why every US people thinks he said "Hey bro, i raped a girl last night !"
lol.
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On October 13 2012 08:55 McDutch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:50 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 13 2012 08:47 SpiZe wrote:On October 13 2012 08:45 tyner wrote:On October 13 2012 08:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
Ah, I see.
Well, that's just unfortunate. People say silly shit like this jokingly all the time, but sadly for Stephano, he said it to someone that was streaming and got caught. Yes, child molestation and the like isn't a joking matter, but we can't white knight and pretend like we've never joked about taboo subjects.
Well, he's going to Korea anyway. I don't know who you hang out with, but people don't "joke" about having sex with 14 year olds. I know plenty of people who make jokes about having sex with people's sisters (that are around 13-14). It's funny stuff to say to some close friends and what not, a bit weird when you're on the internet and are a sponsored player. No, it's not "a bit weird" You know plenty of people that joke about having sex with people's under-aged sisters? Raise your standards. If I had a sister that was 14 and my best friend made a joke about raping her I'd punch him in the face and never talk to him again. tbh, me and my friends are making this kind of jokes quite often, about the sisters and the moms.. Tho it wouldnt be funny if one of them was actually raped tho  Im not saying that the jokes are tastefull... but joking around with friends and saying the most retarded shit is fun, because EVERYONE knows it's bullshit.. and bullshit is fun.. I just can't believe how much people over here are just acting so hypocritical..
Hypocritical because they have a different moral sense than you? That is not the definition of a hypocrit.
I don't understand jokes like that, but fair enough, you and a friend understand eachother well so it's fine.
Problem is, although I do not know Stephano personally I've been exposed to stories of him enough times to make this joke fucking weird.
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On October 13 2012 08:56 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:54 Dali. wrote:On October 13 2012 08:43 rd wrote:On October 13 2012 08:41 Dali. wrote:On October 13 2012 08:34 shid0x wrote:
That's kind of bullshit to me.
When you hire a player like stephano you know he WILL do stuff like that,stephano is a real buzzmaker and he enjoys it.
Millenium had to face those kind of situation and even worse a lot and they didn't go apeshit for it.
Seriously EG i'm dissapointed. EG (read as: sponsors) are paying him out the ass to perform on a world stage in front of tens of thousands. Shenanigans will only be tolerated so far. No one with good sense can imagine a situation where making a joke which can easily be interpreted as a confession of raping an underaged girl in a public setting while representing your employer will be brushed off. With income comes responsibility. If he doesn't act responsibly, he shouldn't be rewarded with income. Bravo EG. Him casually trolling on a convo that happened to be streamed has nothing to do with his ability to perform on world stage, or even represent his sponsors. It just incites the worst of our community. That's utter bullshit. He is one of the highest salaried players in all of esports because tech companies are willing to throw money at an organisation that will provide exposure to their brands. EG.Stephano.RC is a manifestation of their investment. He choose to join EG for the nearly unparalleled opportunities they can provide. But with that comes the responsibility to not pull stupid shit like this. He is in a position to be constantly scrutinized. He can ether retreat from the public eye as much as possible and let his games be his promotion or he can act clean enough to keep the pay train chugging. His choice. Yeah except the people he's promoting to for the most part don't really care how eccentric his personality is.
Are you for real? They just docked his pay and may even continue to impose further penalties for this one action.
Eccentricity doesn't allow one to court bad publicity.
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It's not like EG could do nothing after it was streamed and the drama started, I blame this on the SC2 online drama police. Also, Everyone saying things along the lines of, "There are some things you just don't joke about" or "Regular people don't joke about these things" need to take off their white knight armor and think about the purpose of humor in the first place.
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Moralists coming up again. I guess people are just too evil. :')
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This is weird.
Just everything about this is weird, I think I understand it but its just so weird.
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