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On October 14 2012 11:38 Karsaib wrote:
Oh wait, no way, you're kidding, he didn't just say what I think he did, did he ? So Stephano said ? Nothing you idiots Stephano's insane, he just locked a 14 year old in my basement !
But that 14 year old really really loves him, chigga chigga chigga tunisian, slim shady, I'm sick of him, look at him, raping around, laughing his you know what, trolling his you know who ! Yeah but he's so cute though...
EG prolly got a couple of screws up in their heads loose, but no worse than what's going on in your *self-censorship in action*...
Great, duh
To the corporate world, that treat human beings like shit, coz acting like actual human beings may harm their lil' profit, and would rather turn them into slavery slot machines, as long as they remain quite, obey orders and don't get too far away from the rows a lot of people here belong to too, well to those people, to this system, my bum is on your lips, so you might as well give it a little kiss...
Peace on the streets, son !
SMOOCH !
EDIT : Oh, I forgot to mention "corporate world that shouldn't be concerned about private stuff, instead of acting like dat big brother. Yeah, who'd want that. Even if apparently some people here may see it as ok. Don't get me wrong, I don't give a damn shit about wether or not Stephano was trolling or not. Or joking or anything. Sexual conversations between friends should remain private so chill and enjoy a good drink...
but EG isn't a corporation...
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Only puritans and ignorants are going to be offended. No one else care. So why care anyway ? :3
Oh ? Ok, Now that you told me, I believe you. I editted my post btw. I like to make them sound as cool as possible to me. Intellectual jerk off session after getting loose, you know. Makes me feel smart...
Reread it actually !
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On October 14 2012 11:11 Purple Haze wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:22 Churchill wrote:
I'm shocked and saddened to see so many people either defending or nonchalantly disregarding Stephano's comments. While the context of this "joke" is unknown and therefore open to debate, I cannot think of any situation where the abuse of a minor (actual or implied) is amusing.
In the UK currently, many people are coming forward concerning the systematic abuse of children by an (in)famous former TV presenter over the course of decades. This man was allowed to perpetrate these crimes despite numerous warning signs and it being an open secret among his coworkers and childcare administrators around the country. Although, of course, saddened and disgusted by his crimes, it seems even more heinous to me that such a cult of personality can exist where someone who is well known and liked by the populace can commit crimes that are ignored.
I'm not comparing the actions of Stephano with this man, however I would point out that Starcraft 2 is a community, and as such it is up to its members to protect and nourish it. When something like this is said and available for public consumption (whether meant or not) it is up to us to stand up and say that's not right. I would also point out that many members of our community are underage themselves, and an influential player such as Stephano must be held to a high standard as an example to them, and also to us.
If indeed Stephano's comments were made in a moment of indiscretion and bad taste, then a fine, ban, and public apology are good enough for me. If there are circumstances behind the comments, then that's a case for the authorities. Let's be clear, we all make mistakes (even super nerds). Learning from them and growing up is all part and parcel of life.
Complicity through silence is something, as a community, we must NOT do. Mentioning the Jimmy Saville case in relation to this is just beyond ridiculous. Are you really, seriously comparing systematic abuse over decades of disabled children with making a joke to a friend in a private chat log? Really?
Sigh. If you read closely, you'll realise I wasn't comparing Stephano with Saville, I was comparing the reaction to both incidents. Ignoring a twisted, insensitive, and potentially criminal comment just because you enjoy watching Stephano play SC2 is similar (in ways) to how Saville got away with abuse all those years. It's not a perfect comparison, however I'm attempting to explain how people seem to not care what Stephano says or does.
And saying I have no sense of humour - how do you even find those comments remotely amusing? Hell, they weren't even phrased in a joking manner, it sounded like Stephano telling a friend he just committed statutory rape. How the fuck is that funny?
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Quick question btw, why isn't Roman Polanski not in prison, even if MARRIED TO HIS OWN ADOPTIVE DAUGHTER ? Coz he makes good added value with his crappy movies. WE enjoy watching sc2, which, for the record, is way cooler than wahtching any of this guy's tasteless garbage, so if we apply your logic the other way around, Stephano should be worshipped too ! What if he didn't even do anything "bad mkay" ? He would earn the title of Supreme Ruler of the Galaxy or something.
The point of my post ? None. Just found this funny, had to post it. Hell, me thinks me shouldn't try any sexual joke, me thinks...
AH ! IT'S A CONSPIRACY !!! See, Israel and sionists are taking control of the e-sports scene, and soon Dustin Browder will receive a call from Rabbi Netanyahu to rename the mothership into Jerusalem, and grant Protoss the title of kinky glowing creatures, coz hell, jews are themselves kinky glowing creatures. They even plan to nerf zerg so that Stephano won't exist anymore coz somewhat of a tunisian looking douchebag (plus, his body doesn't glow like protoss' and jews' do), which everyone in the US (an undefined Israelian region) knows better, is unacceptable and should be appropriately punished, coz that's how the real world works, so grow up, god damn it !
Hell, I'm having fun right here, talking to myself ! I should prolly go to bed though...
beeeeeep
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On October 14 2012 11:50 Churchill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:11 Purple Haze wrote:On October 14 2012 10:22 Churchill wrote:
I'm shocked and saddened to see so many people either defending or nonchalantly disregarding Stephano's comments. While the context of this "joke" is unknown and therefore open to debate, I cannot think of any situation where the abuse of a minor (actual or implied) is amusing.
In the UK currently, many people are coming forward concerning the systematic abuse of children by an (in)famous former TV presenter over the course of decades. This man was allowed to perpetrate these crimes despite numerous warning signs and it being an open secret among his coworkers and childcare administrators around the country. Although, of course, saddened and disgusted by his crimes, it seems even more heinous to me that such a cult of personality can exist where someone who is well known and liked by the populace can commit crimes that are ignored.
I'm not comparing the actions of Stephano with this man, however I would point out that Starcraft 2 is a community, and as such it is up to its members to protect and nourish it. When something like this is said and available for public consumption (whether meant or not) it is up to us to stand up and say that's not right. I would also point out that many members of our community are underage themselves, and an influential player such as Stephano must be held to a high standard as an example to them, and also to us.
If indeed Stephano's comments were made in a moment of indiscretion and bad taste, then a fine, ban, and public apology are good enough for me. If there are circumstances behind the comments, then that's a case for the authorities. Let's be clear, we all make mistakes (even super nerds). Learning from them and growing up is all part and parcel of life.
Complicity through silence is something, as a community, we must NOT do. Mentioning the Jimmy Saville case in relation to this is just beyond ridiculous. Are you really, seriously comparing systematic abuse over decades of disabled children with making a joke to a friend in a private chat log? Really? Sigh. If you read closely, you'll realise I wasn't comparing Stephano with Saville, I was comparing the reaction to both incidents. Ignoring a twisted, insensitive, and potentially criminal comment just because you enjoy watching Stephano play SC2 is similar (in ways) to how Saville got away with abuse all those years. It's not a perfect comparison, however I'm attempting to explain how people seem to not care what Stephano says or does. And saying I have no sense of humour - how do you even find those comments remotely amusing? Hell, they weren't even phrased in a joking manner, it sounded like Stephano telling a friend he just committed statutory rape. How the fuck is that funny?
im not sure if youre aware of this, but there are some people who are different from you
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On October 14 2012 11:38 Karsaib wrote:
Oh wait, no way, you're kidding, he didn't just say what I think he did, did he ? So Stephano said ? Nothing you idiots Stephano's insane, he just locked a 14 year old in my basement !
But that 14 year old really really loves him, chigga chigga chigga tunisian, slim shady, I'm sick of him, look at him, raping around, laughing his you know what, trolling his you know who ! Yeah but he's so cute though...
EG prolly got a couple of screws up in their heads loose, but no worse than what's going on in your *self-censorship in action*...
Great, duh
To the corporate world, that treat human beings like shit, coz acting like actual human beings may harm their lil' profit, and would rather turn them into slavery slot machines (example : Let's take that charming DeMusliM stating "his awesome Monster drink helps him playing like a BAUS." Well, THIS makes me uncomfortable, THIS is disgusting, fuck it about that Stephano thing, don't give a damn 'bout a 19 year old bragging about his sex life. Been there too...), as long as they remain quite, obey orders and don't get too far away from the rows a lot of people here belong to too, well to those people, to this system, my bum is on your lips, so you might as well give it a little kiss...
Peace on the streets, son !
SMOOCH !
EDIT : Oh, I forgot to mention "corporate world that shouldn't be concerned about private stuff, instead of acting like dat big brother. Yeah, who'd want that. Even if apparently some people here may see it as ok. Don't get me wrong, I don't give a damn shit about wether or not Stephano was trolling or not. Or joking or anything. Sexual conversations between YOUNG friends should remain private so chill and enjoy a good drink...
Ehm what ? oO
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Ive never understood why Stephano gets so much love from the community. He runs 12723238 commercials in a row on stream, gets arrested for being a drunk asshole, and makes jokes about raping 14 year old girls. Every interview I've seen him do he comes off as arrogant and stand-offish. Clearly just in it for the money and nothing else. For those of you who think his "lack of give a fuck" attitude is something to aspire to and emulate... GROW UP
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On October 14 2012 11:54 Karsaib wrote:Quick question btw, why isn't Roman Polanski not in prison, even if MARRIED TO HIS OWN ADOPTIVE DAUGHTER ? Coz he makes good added value with his crappy movies. WE enjoy watching sc2, which, for the record, is way cooler than wahtching any of this guy's tasteless garbage, so if we apply your logic the other way around, Stephano should be worshipped too ! What if he didn't even do anything "bad mkay" ? He would earn the title of Supreme Ruler of the Galaxy or something. The point of my post ? None. Just found this funny, had to post it. Hell, me thinks me shouldn't try any sexual joke, me thinks... AH ! IT'S A CONSPIRACY !!! See, Israel and sionists are taking control of the e-sports scene, and soon Dustin Browder will receive a call from Rabbi Netanyahu to rename the mothership into Jerusalem, and grant Protoss the title of kinky glowing creatures, coz hell, jews are themselves kinky glowing creatures. They even plan to nerf zerg so that Stephano won't exist anymore coz somewhat of a tunisian looking douchebag (plus, his body doesn't glow like protoss' and jews' do), which everyone in the US (an undefined Israelian region) knows better, is unacceptable and should be appropriately punished, coz that's how the real world works, so grow up, god damn it ! Hell, I'm having fun right here, talking to myself ! I should prolly go to bed though... beeeeeep
It's not a conspiracy. It's not anywhere near that complicated. Read their actual threads on Reddit. Their motives are obvious, and they're proud that they can have this kind of impact on people they have grudges against.
On October 14 2012 12:20 l3iRdMaN wrote:
Ive never understood why Stephano gets so much love from the community. He runs 12723238 commercials in a row on stream, gets arrested for being a drunk asshole, and makes jokes about raping 14 year old girls. Every interview I've seen him do he comes off as arrogant and stand-offish. Clearly just in it for the money and nothing else. For those of you who think his "lack of give a fuck" attitude is something to aspire to and emulate... GROW UP
"Man in capitalist society found a way to get paid for something he's good at." Do you think if I rush this, we can make the Sunday paper?
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On October 14 2012 12:20 l3iRdMaN wrote:
Ive never understood why Stephano gets so much love from the community. He runs 12723238 commercials in a row on stream, gets arrested for being a drunk asshole, and makes jokes about raping 14 year old girls. Every interview I've seen him do he comes off as arrogant and stand-offish. Clearly just in it for the money and nothing else. For those of you who think his "lack of give a fuck" attitude is something to aspire to and emulate... GROW UP
I don't care about the guy one bit, but people will idolize him for his talent. The fact that I don't like his self promotion doesn't change the fact that he's good at the game. That said I don't care very much.
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How come they do not suspend Idra or the other EG looser's for beeing so bad at the game and trolling around with bad excuses why they are lame?
That said, some people are more sensitive than others, some people will not stand a joke like this, some will.
I worked in summercamp for a couple of years, you all would be quite amazed to listen to the staff jokes, stuff like this is very comon and no one abuses anyone or anything.
But Stephano must have quite a sick brain to think about this and to find it funny. Too much game must have burnt some brain parts. He needs to go to talk to a doctor.
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On October 14 2012 12:20 l3iRdMaN wrote:
Ive never understood why Stephano gets so much love from the community. He runs 12723238 commercials in a row on stream, gets arrested for being a drunk asshole, and makes jokes about raping 14 year old girls. Every interview I've seen him do he comes off as arrogant and stand-offish. Clearly just in it for the money and nothing else. For those of you who think his "lack of give a fuck" attitude is something to aspire to and emulate... GROW UP
"Man in capitalist society found a way to get paid for something he's good at." Do you think if I rush this, we can make the Sunday paper?[/QUOTE]
What are you even trying to say? I have no issue with gamers trying to make a couple bucks off of streaming, sponsorships, etc... But when you do things like abuse the commercial AD system, get arrested for public intoxication, and make rape jokes on someone else's stream, you hurt the community and set a shitty example for young people who "idolize" him. His lack of professionalism will ultimately run his career into the ground... I just hope he grows up before it's too late.
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On October 14 2012 10:33 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:22 Churchill wrote:
I'm shocked and saddened to see so many people either defending or nonchalantly disregarding Stephano's comments. While the context of this "joke" is unknown and therefore open to debate, I cannot think of any situation where the abuse of a minor (actual or implied) is amusing.
In the UK currently, many people are coming forward concerning the systematic abuse of children by an (in)famous former TV presenter over the course of decades. This man was allowed to perpetrate these crimes despite numerous warning signs and it being an open secret among his coworkers and childcare administrators around the country. Although, of course, saddened and disgusted by his crimes, it seems even more heinous to me that such a cult of personality can exist where someone who is well known and liked by the populace can commit crimes that are ignored.
I'm not comparing the actions of Stephano with this man, however I would point out that Starcraft 2 is a community, and as such it is up to its members to protect and nourish it. When something like this is said and available for public consumption (whether meant or not) it is up to us to stand up and say that's not right. I would also point out that many members of our community are underage themselves, and an influential player such as Stephano must be held to a high standard as an example to them, and also to us.
If indeed Stephano's comments were made in a moment of indiscretion and bad taste, then a fine, ban, and public apology are good enough for me. If there are circumstances behind the comments, then that's a case for the authorities. Let's be clear, we all make mistakes (even super nerds). Learning from them and growing up is all part and parcel of life.
Complicity through silence is something, as a community, we must NOT do. Do you actually really believe in what you just wrote? If so, I pity you very much sir! Making jokes with friends about "taboo" topics is kinda standard. Imo the penalty is kinda harsh tho I can understand it from a business point of view. But it is kinda sad that a joke which was meant for privacy gets out like this and makes such a mess and fuss.
Dude. Seriously. If i made a joke about raping children in front of my mates they would think I had gone fucking mental.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
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On October 14 2012 13:22 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:33 bluQ wrote:On October 14 2012 10:22 Churchill wrote:
I'm shocked and saddened to see so many people either defending or nonchalantly disregarding Stephano's comments. While the context of this "joke" is unknown and therefore open to debate, I cannot think of any situation where the abuse of a minor (actual or implied) is amusing.
In the UK currently, many people are coming forward concerning the systematic abuse of children by an (in)famous former TV presenter over the course of decades. This man was allowed to perpetrate these crimes despite numerous warning signs and it being an open secret among his coworkers and childcare administrators around the country. Although, of course, saddened and disgusted by his crimes, it seems even more heinous to me that such a cult of personality can exist where someone who is well known and liked by the populace can commit crimes that are ignored.
I'm not comparing the actions of Stephano with this man, however I would point out that Starcraft 2 is a community, and as such it is up to its members to protect and nourish it. When something like this is said and available for public consumption (whether meant or not) it is up to us to stand up and say that's not right. I would also point out that many members of our community are underage themselves, and an influential player such as Stephano must be held to a high standard as an example to them, and also to us.
If indeed Stephano's comments were made in a moment of indiscretion and bad taste, then a fine, ban, and public apology are good enough for me. If there are circumstances behind the comments, then that's a case for the authorities. Let's be clear, we all make mistakes (even super nerds). Learning from them and growing up is all part and parcel of life.
Complicity through silence is something, as a community, we must NOT do. Do you actually really believe in what you just wrote? If so, I pity you very much sir! Making jokes with friends about "taboo" topics is kinda standard. Imo the penalty is kinda harsh tho I can understand it from a business point of view. But it is kinda sad that a joke which was meant for privacy gets out like this and makes such a mess and fuss. Dude. Seriously. If i made a joke about raping children in front of my mates they would think I had gone fucking mental. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
It's a good thing then that Bling isn't "your mates."
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On October 14 2012 12:20 l3iRdMaN wrote:
Ive never understood why Stephano gets so much love from the community. He runs 12723238 commercials in a row on stream, gets arrested for being a drunk asshole, and makes jokes about raping 14 year old girls. Every interview I've seen him do he comes off as arrogant and stand-offish. Clearly just in it for the money and nothing else. For those of you who think his "lack of give a fuck" attitude is something to aspire to and emulate... GROW UP
The prophet had sex with under aged girls and stephano might be practicing his religion. So would it still be fine?
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So i consider myself a HUGE troll! I make a lot of inappropraite jokes on bnet...but this one was over the line. It's one thing to joke around like that as a "no name". but when you are in his position it is SOOOOOOOOO much more important to be careful of what you say and do. I honestly believe that was a joke, but I believe this situation warrants termination of his contract and his ties with EG. I mean who knows what the sponsors will do......EG is a multi million dollar team. I believe if this act of stupidity does have a serious effect on sponsors (them dropping EG...etc) then it will affect E-Sports as a whole. You wont see our favorite players like incontrol, huk, jyp, suppy, idra.......at as many tournaments. That is not a good thing for our community at all, and especially people attending things like MLG and other events.......BAD MOVE. that makes me sad. 
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On October 14 2012 13:42 forestry wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 12:20 l3iRdMaN wrote:
Ive never understood why Stephano gets so much love from the community. He runs 12723238 commercials in a row on stream, gets arrested for being a drunk asshole, and makes jokes about raping 14 year old girls. Every interview I've seen him do he comes off as arrogant and stand-offish. Clearly just in it for the money and nothing else. For those of you who think his "lack of give a fuck" attitude is something to aspire to and emulate... GROW UP The prophet had sex with under aged girls and stephano might be practicing his religion. So would it still be fine?
im not gonna sit here and get baited into some philosophical debate. bottom line - sexual exploitation of underage boys/girls is bad, and making comments to someone who's streaming about it is careless and unprofessional!
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just in bad taste, nothing more. if he actually did it than thats a whole another story
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On October 14 2012 11:54 Karsaib wrote:
Quick question btw, why isn't Roman Polanski not in prison, even if MARRIED TO HIS OWN ADOPTIVE DAUGHTER ? Coz he makes good added value with his crappy movies.
He isnt in prison because when he married his adoptive daughter she was an adult.
But he should be in prison because he was convicted of sexually assaulting a 15 year old but the French government chose to offer him asylum.
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On October 14 2012 12:17 Kenpark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:38 Karsaib wrote:
Oh wait, no way, you're kidding, he didn't just say what I think he did, did he ? So Stephano said ? Nothing you idiots Stephano's insane, he just locked a 14 year old in my basement !
But that 14 year old really really loves him, chigga chigga chigga tunisian, slim shady, I'm sick of him, look at him, raping around, laughing his you know what, trolling his you know who ! Yeah but he's so cute though...
EG prolly got a couple of screws up in their heads loose, but no worse than what's going on in your *self-censorship in action*...
Great, duh
To the corporate world, that treat human beings like shit, coz acting like actual human beings may harm their lil' profit, and would rather turn them into slavery slot machines (example : Let's take that charming DeMusliM stating "his awesome Monster drink helps him playing like a BAUS." Well, THIS makes me uncomfortable, THIS is disgusting, fuck it about that Stephano thing, don't give a damn 'bout a 19 year old bragging about his sex life. Been there too...), as long as they remain quite, obey orders and don't get too far away from the rows a lot of people here belong to too, well to those people, to this system, my bum is on your lips, so you might as well give it a little kiss...
Peace on the streets, son !
SMOOCH !
EDIT : Oh, I forgot to mention "corporate world that shouldn't be concerned about private stuff, instead of acting like dat big brother. Yeah, who'd want that. Even if apparently some people here may see it as ok. Don't get me wrong, I don't give a damn shit about wether or not Stephano was trolling or not. Or joking or anything. Sexual conversations between YOUNG friends should remain private so chill and enjoy a good drink... Ehm what ? oO
For those not down with the hip hop scene like I most assuredly am, this guy was trying to do a version of Eminem's "The Real Slim Shady". Go bing it if you're confused.
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