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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On October 14 2012 16:45 Hypemeup wrote: EG just reacting to the reaction from the sponsors after /r/SRS had their period about sc2 and emailed sponsors en masse? Stupid by Stephano to say it in the first place I guess. SRS's motivations seem pathetic and hateful but I'm glad they did what they did. | ||
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DiamondTear
Finland165 Posts
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:01 Fyodor wrote: SRS's motivations seem pathetic and hateful but I'm glad they did what they did. lol how is it pathetic and hateful to call out people's shitty jokes? Some people like rape and some people dislike rape. Esports in general likes rape a lot and I'm glad EG is taking a contrary position. A cool fact is that it takes literally zero effort to not make a rape joke. Just sit still and tah-dah! You successfully didn't make a fucking awful rape joke. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:03 DiamondTear wrote: I'm sure EG (and many others) knew something like this was coming and prepared for it in the contract. However, statutory rape is probably more frowned about than Nazi comments in the US, so I wonder if EG got more than they bargained for. he not really said raping ... for me sounds more like bad spoken "sex" and so its legal and no problem and i dopnt see problem of all haters here ... | ||
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
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hephaestos
France54 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:25 CoR wrote: he not really said raping ... for me sounds more like bad spoken "sex" and so its legal and no problem and i dopnt see problem of all haters here ... Statuory rape is not rape. Not even close. | ||
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:35 hephaestos wrote: Statuory rape is not rape. Not even close. Who cares why is it worth defending. Why. I don't get it. Why is rape sacred? | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
If EG is suspending people for stupid jokes, then Geoff Robinson would have a suspension to last him a life time. None of this makes any sense, he never should have joined them in the first place | ||
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
Fuck, even Penny Arcade has done rape jokes in the past. | ||
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fourColo
United States363 Posts
Also what is this fearmongering bullshit, are you serious? I'm sure you're trembling in your boots, you might get suspended from your esports team for making a rape joke. Heaven forbid. It's sad that so many people have no clue what freedom of speech is. He's not being censored. He can continue to make rape jokes. EG isn't even going to stop him! In fact most rape apologists HATE freedom of speech because they want EG prevented from making decisions with their own money and want to squelch people's displeasure with off color jokes. I don't want anyone censoring Stephano because I'd rather know that he's a colossal shitlord. | ||
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dAijow
7 Posts
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On October 14 2012 11:53 twomong3r wrote: To those not believing that this is an incident created by a group of malicious internet vigilantes targeting the SC2 community: http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/11e9oh/meta_starcraft_player_stephano_has_been_suspended/ oh wow. i've never seen a sadder bunch of people in my life... it's depressing that there are so many individuals with nothing better to do with their lives. :/ as for this situation, didn't we have ribery (famous footballer) and other guys do underaged prostitute and it later became public? what ever happened to that? joking about a similiar situation is stupid, but harmless. everyone knows stephano drinks too much to get it up anyways... | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:45 fourColo wrote: Oh well if penny arcade does it it's fine in my book. No! They have fucking awful views as well. Here's the secret. Most people have fucking awful views about rape. It's the default opinion. If you grow up like a piece of driftwood agreeing with everything society tells you, you'll think rape is god's gift to humanity. When the fuck have I mentioned freedom of speech. And what makes you think your admittedly minority view of rape is the correct one? Guess what, we live in a society where majority views become the norm. And 1 more time in case you didn't get it, coz it seems you havnt: Rape is not ok, but jokes about anything is fine, it's not that rape jokes are so cool that they HAVE to be made. EDIT: And by fearmongering I don't mean jokes about rape, but rape itself. The whole "worst thing you could do to a woman" deal. | ||
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oBlade
United States5756 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:25 fourColo wrote: lol how is it pathetic and hateful to call out people's shitty jokes? Some people like rape and some people dislike rape. Esports in general likes rape a lot and I'm glad EG is taking a contrary position. A cool fact is that it takes literally zero effort to not make a rape joke. Just sit still and tah-dah! You successfully didn't make a fucking awful rape joke. No, "esports" doesn't like rape. And EG is not taking a stance on rape here. I don't know how you came up with this. It takes no effort not to read the fucking newspaper, that doesn't mean if people are offended by you reading the newspaper, you should give it up. That's not an argument. It also takes no effort to simply ignore jokes you don't get, or people you don't like. Food for thought. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:39 S_SienZ wrote: Who says it's just eSports fans? Quite a few comedy fans (not just stand up, but other forms as well) simply think that no subject matter is sacred enough to not make fun off. It's not that rape jokes are "teh bomb" and HAVE to be made, it's just the that people nowadays are too sensitive to the point where the word is reduced to purposes of fear-mongering. Fuck, even Penny Arcade has done rape jokes in the past. If it was just an off-color joke things wouldn't have escalated the way they did. Nobody is "offended" because he talked about rape. People want Satouri to be accountable for either playing us like fools or for being an actual twisted individual who has indeed raped a young girl. There are things too serious to take lightly. Terrorist/bomb/death threats are some of them, admitting to having raped a young girl is another. It's like tripping off the fire alarm. People aren't just going to roll their eyes and resign to the fact that you were "just doing it for teh lulz", you will be held responsible even if it was a joke and there was no fire. Same is happening to Satouri. EG sent the message that he isn't allowed to play on the community's sensibilities for his own amusement, that he is accountable for his actions from now on. To Satouri and his "I wish I wasn't famous, this is such an inconvenience to me, waaah  " well it's not too late for you, don't let the door hit you on your way out. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On October 14 2012 18:03 Fyodor wrote: If it was just an off-color joke things wouldn't have escalated the way they did. Nobody is "offended" because he talked about rape. People want Satouri to be accountable for either playing us like fools or for being an actual twisted individual who has indeed raped a young girl. There are things too serious to take lightly. Terrorist/bomb/death threats are some of them, admitting to having raped a young girl is another. It's like tripping off the fire alarm. People aren't just going to roll their eyes and resign to the fact that you were "just doing it for teh lulz", you will be held responsible even if it was a joke and there was no fire. Same is happening to Satouri. EG sent the message that he isn't allowed to play on the community's sensibilities for his own amusement, that he is accountable for his actions from now on. To Satouri and his "I wish I wasn't famous, this is such an inconvenience to me, waaah " well it's not too late for you, don't let the door hit you on your way out. The problem with your analogy is, when you phone in a bomb threat you KNOW you're making a report. In Stephano's case it could be A) a joke or B) a confession. Now, if he said it in public it was probably B. However, he said it in what he perceived to be a private convo with BlinG, who as he predicted, had the initial reaction of laughing to it. How could Stephano intend to "play us like fools" without knowing that other people would ever catch wind of it? | ||
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m!DniGhT
Germany34 Posts
On October 14 2012 17:39 S_SienZ wrote: Who says it's just eSports fans? Quite a few comedy fans (not just stand up, but other forms as well) simply think that no subject matter is sacred enough to not make fun off. It's not that rape jokes are "teh bomb" and HAVE to be made, it's just the that people nowadays are too sensitive to the point where the word is reduced to purposes of fear-mongering. Fuck, even Penny Arcade has done rape jokes in the past. Well you have to differentiate between making a joke or a (maybe) funny statement. This might offend some people but its a joke: + Show Spoiler + A little kid and a rapist are going through a dark and dire forest. Says the kid "uncle its scary here!" Rapist: look at myPoint of view i have to get out here alone again Thats how a rapist joke looks like. Stephano made a really stupid statement not clearly noticable if its funny, trolling or even real. And making such a statement is manythings but professional. You all are crying for respectation and acceptance of e-sports/competitive gaming but in order to get that there has to be a certain lvl of proffesionalism. And in my Eyes EG did it just right. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On October 14 2012 18:16 m!DniGhT wrote: Well you have to differentiate between making a joke or a (maybe) funny statement. This might offend some people but its a joke: + Show Spoiler + A little kid and a rapist are going through a dark and dire forest. Says the kid "uncle its scary here!" Rapist: look at myPoint of view i have to get out here alone again Thats how a rapist joke looks like. Stephano made a really stupid statement not clearly noticable if its funny, trolling or even real. And making such a statement is manythings but professional. You all are crying for respectation and acceptance of e-sports/competitive gaming but in order to get that there has to be a certain lvl of proffesionalism. And in my Eyes EG did it just right. LOL that was hilarious, although a serial child killer would've made more sense. I've actually covered this point earlier in the thread (the apparent lack of punchline and typical joke structure). With how close BlinG and Stephano are it's possible that it's an inside joke. | ||
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Joefish
Germany314 Posts
So much drama and QQ in this thread. Sure it's inappropriate to joke about 'rape' but so are most jokes between friends. (it was not meant for public to see) If you disagree, tell me that all your comments be it on the internet or irl are always appropriate and double checked for political correctness. And if they shouldn't be only once, be glad we have a whole sub-community armed with pitchforks who will gladly point out your 'misbehavior'. Overall, play more Starcraft and argue less about other peoples private chat. Also, there should be more posts like TheKefka's :D + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2012 23:54 TheKefka wrote: Not sure why everyone is witch hunting Stephano. Don't you ask yourself why these people are on a loaded team like EG in the first place? Huk joined EG because Liquid couldn't keep up with Huks blow consumption anymore. It got so bad his internal nick name became Noo Noo.You think EG offered CatZ a contract because he is a good player?LOL It's because it would be cheaper to ship cocaine to Huk directly from Peru than buying from a middle man. Incontrol wouldn't even sign his contract until EG made sure there were at least 5 different burger joints in a 2 mile radius of the team house.Dude cleans up White Castle faster than an army of Harolds & Kumars. Puma goes through more skin care products in a week than the whole cast of desperate housewives do in a season. Demuslims sole life is a huge expense.Dude is black listed at every health insurance company in the US.Last guy that managed to accomplish that was Evel Knievel.They were thinking of putting him in a sterile plastic ball but playing starcraft in it proved to be too much of a challenge. You really think those pictures and videos of IdrA smiling is actually him?It's fucking Machine.His only purpose on EG is to serve as IdrAs PR doppelganger. JYP got recruited just so Puma wouldn't come off as a token when they all travel together and LzGamer/Suppy serve as tax dummies so EG could explain the huge budget whole,made by Huks little hobby,to the IRS. Lord knows how Thorzaine fits in with all of this,wouldn't be surprised if he clubs baby seals in his leisure time. Last time I tried to check up on the background of Scoots,2 black cars were parked in my street for 2 months until I dropped it and my dog went missing.Only thing I could find is that the last name he used was Roger 'Verbal' Kint. So Stephano likes milfs and 14 year olds.I don't think anyone on EG is in a position where they can point fingers at each other. On October 14 2012 18:16 m!DniGhT wrote: Well you have to differentiate between making a joke or a (maybe) funny statement. This might offend some people but its a joke: + Show Spoiler + A little kid and a rapist are going through a dark and dire forest. Says the kid "uncle its scary here!" Rapist: look at myPoint of view i have to get out here alone again Thats how a rapist joke looks like. Stephano made a really stupid statement not clearly noticable if its funny, trolling or even real. And making such a statement is manythings but professional. You all are crying for respectation and acceptance of e-sports/competitive gaming but in order to get that there has to be a certain lvl of proffesionalism. And in my Eyes EG did it just right. Well, that is funny :D If it were real of course I wouldn't laugh about it. That's a complete different matter. But normally jokes don't rape children. | ||
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