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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
October 13 2012 22:13 GMT
#2081
Seems disproportionate. He didn't say anything like that on his stream, did he? He just said something stupid to a friend in what he thought was a private conversation. A warning would be enough IMO.
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
October 13 2012 22:13 GMT
#2082
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 22:14 GMT
#2083
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 13 2012 22:17 GMT
#2084
On October 14 2012 07:00 KainiT wrote:
Why do people call Stephano rapist? Even if this whole thing is true, in most European countries sex is allowed with 14 year olds, in France it is 15 I think but even then it has nothing to do with rape

because people read what he actually said? he said he "abused" a 14 years old, is that sex for you?

either way, i would not call him rapist until i know that he did it, and that no one actually knows or can deny except himself.
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
October 13 2012 22:17 GMT
#2085
On October 14 2012 07:14 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.

You most likely can't but in the case of football(or soccer for americans) there's FIFA who would give them a fine.
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
October 13 2012 22:19 GMT
#2086
On October 14 2012 07:14 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.


This was a JOKE !! Don't you get it ? If what he said is true then he should be arrested and go to a tribunal. But the gap between saying "today i kidnapped a 14 yo child" and doing so is huge.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
October 13 2012 22:20 GMT
#2087
On October 14 2012 07:00 KainiT wrote:
Why do people call Stephano rapist? Even if this whole thing is true, in most European countries sex is allowed with 14 year olds, in France it is 15 I think but even then it has nothing to do with rape

most European countries? Can you name 5?
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
October 13 2012 22:25 GMT
#2088
On October 14 2012 07:17 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:14 Shakattak wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.

You most likely can't but in the case of football(or soccer for americans) there's FIFA who would give them a fine.


In France terrible playes like Brandao and Gomis went both to a tribunal for sexual agression. The clubs never took ther pays and they were both disculped. Fifa did nothing. Ribery had sex with 16 yo prostitute "Zaya", Bayern Munich never took his money. Fifa did nothing.

Stephano does a private joke about abusing a child, his team robbs his money (like 6000$) and doesn't allow him to work.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 22:27 GMT
#2089
On October 14 2012 07:17 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:14 Shakattak wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.

You most likely can't but in the case of football(or soccer for americans) there's FIFA who would give them a fine.

Basically, thats what happen as far as we know , no legal actions have been taken and he got a fine is his profession i see no difference in what you said .
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 13 2012 22:32 GMT
#2090
On October 14 2012 07:25 AIOL! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:17 Darkthorn wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:14 Shakattak wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.

You most likely can't but in the case of football(or soccer for americans) there's FIFA who would give them a fine.


In France terrible playes like Brandao and Gomis went both to a tribunal for sexual agression. The clubs never took ther pays and they were both disculped. Fifa did nothing. Ribery had sex with 16 yo prostitute "Zaya", Bayern Munich never took his money. Fifa did nothing.

Stephano does a private joke about abusing a child, his team robbs his money (like 6000$) and doesn't allow him to work.


The team is not allowing him to work and not paying him for not working, it's not robbing AND not allowing him to work. Stephano isn't even being fined.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
October 13 2012 22:36 GMT
#2091
On October 14 2012 07:32 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:25 AIOL! wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:17 Darkthorn wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:14 Shakattak wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.

You most likely can't but in the case of football(or soccer for americans) there's FIFA who would give them a fine.


In France terrible playes like Brandao and Gomis went both to a tribunal for sexual agression. The clubs never took ther pays and they were both disculped. Fifa did nothing. Ribery had sex with 16 yo prostitute "Zaya", Bayern Munich never took his money. Fifa did nothing.

Stephano does a private joke about abusing a child, his team robbs his money (like 6000$) and doesn't allow him to work.


The team is not allowing him to work and not paying him for not working, it's not robbing AND not allowing him to work. Stephano isn't even being fined.


If my boss says me "guy today i don't allow you to work, go home" i'd be ok but he will have to pay me, and if he doesn't want he will do so because the law says so.

Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 13 2012 22:38 GMT
#2092
On October 14 2012 07:36 AIOL! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:32 Caihead wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:25 AIOL! wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:17 Darkthorn wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:14 Shakattak wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:13 AIOL! wrote:
I'm so sad to see so many people don't getting revolted by the fanatism of some dumb loby. And i don't even know if EG is allowed to rob Stephano like that. I mean you cannot take the salary of someone under contract because he did a bad joke. And that's some huge amount of money. This is seriously revolting, did Liverpool took Suarez's money when he shoot racist comments on Evra ? no Did Chelsea took Terry's money when he said so about Ferdinand ?

There is some weird things in that decision, you cannot take the money of one of your employee like that.

If he does something that is against the law regarding children i am sure you can.

You most likely can't but in the case of football(or soccer for americans) there's FIFA who would give them a fine.


In France terrible playes like Brandao and Gomis went both to a tribunal for sexual agression. The clubs never took ther pays and they were both disculped. Fifa did nothing. Ribery had sex with 16 yo prostitute "Zaya", Bayern Munich never took his money. Fifa did nothing.

Stephano does a private joke about abusing a child, his team robbs his money (like 6000$) and doesn't allow him to work.


The team is not allowing him to work and not paying him for not working, it's not robbing AND not allowing him to work. Stephano isn't even being fined.


If my boss says me "guy today i don't allow you to work, go home" i'd be ok but he will have to pay me, and if he doesn't want he will do so because the law says so.



Not allowing a professional to work as a disciplinary action isn't new, Stephano can take it up with his lawyer, that's between him and EG.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
October 13 2012 22:38 GMT
#2093
On October 14 2012 07:20 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:00 KainiT wrote:
Why do people call Stephano rapist? Even if this whole thing is true, in most European countries sex is allowed with 14 year olds, in France it is 15 I think but even then it has nothing to do with rape

most European countries? Can you name 5?


Spain (13).Germany, Italy, Austria, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia (14). I could write down more.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#2094
On October 14 2012 06:21 AIOL! wrote:
Am i the only shocked by this sanction ? This was pure joking, nothing serious. In France a joke like would never have been taken so seriously, everyday we see humorists on TV joking about these tragic incidents and even worse. I'm suspecting a cultural gap between a conservative society like USA and a more "liberal" one about those stuffs. I don't know, i'm even assuming doing the exact same joke with my friends, like a meme.
There absolutly nothing to complain about.
EG is just robbing him.


Ok that's it. What the fuck is up with french people in this thread???? I'm french and I tell you: if that was humour, then that kind of humour is totally inappropriate. Stop spreading bullshit for fuck's sake.
o choro é livre
BLooD...
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada17 Posts
October 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#2095
On October 14 2012 07:38 Henk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:20 Cheerio wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:00 KainiT wrote:
Why do people call Stephano rapist? Even if this whole thing is true, in most European countries sex is allowed with 14 year olds, in France it is 15 I think but even then it has nothing to do with rape

most European countries? Can you name 5?


Spain (13).Germany, Italy, Austria, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia (14). I could write down more.


learn to read... he said name 5... not 7!
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
October 13 2012 22:41 GMT
#2096
Was a really silly thing to say and I hope its not true, but the people emailing sponsors are fucking retarded.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 22:53:55
October 13 2012 22:52 GMT
#2097
On October 14 2012 07:41 Dotq wrote:
Was a really silly thing to say and I hope its not true, but the people emailing sponsors are fucking retarded.


Maybe they are actually sponsor's employees emailing their bosses, so certainly they are not retard, may even get a small reward. Reddit is not a starcraft community, they don't need to care for esports' interest at all. For any community outside of starcraft, his behavior is certainly bad. Only starcraft community will try to protect him regardless.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5751 Posts
October 13 2012 22:54 GMT
#2098
On October 14 2012 07:40 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:21 AIOL! wrote:
Am i the only shocked by this sanction ? This was pure joking, nothing serious. In France a joke like would never have been taken so seriously, everyday we see humorists on TV joking about these tragic incidents and even worse. I'm suspecting a cultural gap between a conservative society like USA and a more "liberal" one about those stuffs. I don't know, i'm even assuming doing the exact same joke with my friends, like a meme.
There absolutly nothing to complain about.
EG is just robbing him.


Ok that's it. What the fuck is up with french people in this thread???? I'm french and I tell you: if that was humour, then that kind of humour is totally inappropriate. Stop spreading bullshit for fuck's sake.

A common philosophy of humor is that there's nothing you should never joke about. You might consider the words inappropriate, but they don't affect you, so to make a stink about them is something of an overreaction.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 13 2012 22:58 GMT
#2099
On October 13 2012 08:40 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:38 Dirtysocks wrote:
It is legal to have sex with 15yo in europe no matter how old you are. So the girl could lie about her age and then tell him that in fact she was 14 or she looked 14.


How clueless are you? REALLY?

Actually many countries in EU (including Germany) have 14 as age of consent. France is 15. Where was he when he wrote this?
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
October 13 2012 22:59 GMT
#2100
On October 14 2012 07:40 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:21 AIOL! wrote:
Am i the only shocked by this sanction ? This was pure joking, nothing serious. In France a joke like would never have been taken so seriously, everyday we see humorists on TV joking about these tragic incidents and even worse. I'm suspecting a cultural gap between a conservative society like USA and a more "liberal" one about those stuffs. I don't know, i'm even assuming doing the exact same joke with my friends, like a meme.
There absolutly nothing to complain about.
EG is just robbing him.


Ok that's it. What the fuck is up with french people in this thread???? I'm french and I tell you: if that was humour, then that kind of humour is totally inappropriate. Stop spreading bullshit for fuck's sake.


The joke is bad, but this is a joke, and it should be taken like that, and i'm not socked by this joke because it is a joke.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
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