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AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
October 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#2061
Am i the only shocked by this sanction ? This was pure joking, nothing serious. In France a joke like would never have been taken so seriously, everyday we see humorists on TV joking about these tragic incidents and even worse. I'm suspecting a cultural gap between a conservative society like USA and a more "liberal" one about those stuffs. I don't know, i'm even assuming doing the exact same joke with my friends, like a meme.
There absolutly nothing to complain about.
EG is just robbing him.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Kaladin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States88 Posts
October 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#2062
On October 14 2012 06:16 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 05:56 Veritask wrote:
I don't understand how they can stop him from playing? Sure, maybe they won't pay for it, but what's stopping Stephano from going to the event teamless


I don't think that's a good idea if stephano did that.


He most likely signed a contract saying that he could only play in tournaments under EG, and only if EG allows him to.
Me all in. Him drone drone drone. Me win. -MC
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
October 13 2012 21:23 GMT
#2063
On October 14 2012 03:00 vi4t0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


1.) it would be your word against mine. and i would plead not guilty. standard procedure.
2.) his problem is that he did say something that can be unambiguously interpreted as confessing to a crime.


It could be "unambiguously interpreted as a crime", by a retard at least, so I agree with you.

And now my thoughts on this drama:

1. Stephano was silly to say what he said given that everything you say whether on stream or off stream is memorialized in a game file and thus potentially subject to public scrutiny. He should have been aware of the risk that something like what happened would happen. He's thus partly to blame, but only because he's a public figure, not because of the substance of what he said.
2. The people who are bothered by such statements should simply either stop watching games played by Stephano or kill themselves (I'm fine with either alternative) rather than expend time and energy e-mailing sponsors and getting bent out of shape by off-color jokes and attempting to punish Stephano. The same strand of crazy, misinformed, idiotic energy that causes people to go off the deep end when they hear a rape joke is what leads preposterously devout muslims to physically attack newspapers, etc. that make jokes about mohammed. It isn't a healthy energy and should and would, in a perfect world, be punished.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 21:25:03
October 13 2012 21:24 GMT
#2064
On October 14 2012 06:23 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:00 vi4t0r wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


1.) it would be your word against mine. and i would plead not guilty. standard procedure.
2.) his problem is that he did say something that can be unambiguously interpreted as confessing to a crime.


It could be "unambiguously interpreted as a crime", by a retard at least, so I agree with you.

And now my thoughts on this drama:

1. Stephano was silly to say what he said given that everything you say whether on stream or off stream is memorialized in a game file and thus potentially subject to public scrutiny. He should have been aware of the risk that something like what happened would happen. He's thus partly to blame, but only because he's a public figure, not because of the substance of what he said.
2. The people who are bothered by such statements should simply either stop watching games played by Stephano or kill themselves (I'm fine with either alternative) rather than expend time and energy e-mailing sponsors and getting bent out of shape by off-color jokes and attempting to punish Stephano. The same strand of crazy, misinformed, idiotic energy that causes people to go off the deep end when they hear a rape joke is what leads preposterously devout muslims to physically attack newspapers, etc. that make jokes about mohammed. It isn't a healthy energy and should and would, in a perfect world, be punished.

I agree with both points, but unfortunately the group you labelled under 2 would not "simply either stop watching games played by Stephano or kill themselves". So EG must do what it did to preserve its appearance.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
October 13 2012 21:28 GMT
#2065
don't get the drama

> guy makes a mistake and has to pay for it

he'll have less money for mangirls in SK and that's about it
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 13 2012 21:30 GMT
#2066
On October 14 2012 05:47 PerryHooter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 05:34 Yolpo wrote:
This is bashfulness shit. Ribery and Benzema (French soccer famous player) have sex with minor prostitute and have no problem at all. And Stephano did just a joke... hypocrisy... Keep your goodness. I don't want it.

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Voltaire. (philosopher)


The word 'minor' in the case of the footballers doesn't mean the same as "below the age of consent". Minor means below 18, while the age of consent in most countries is 15 or 16. Quite the difference.


Also she worked in a legal (?) bordel. If there is one place where you wouldnt expect minors its obv a bordel.

I cheer for Stephano as well, but some french fanboys here are ridicolous. Ofc people get offended if sb is stating he just abused a 14 year old girl. How people can not understand that is really beyond me.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
October 13 2012 21:39 GMT
#2067
I am glad EG is punishing him, and I am glad there was no running to the sponsers like we have seen in the past.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
October 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#2068
This community loves drama. He made a mistake, was punished for it, and hopefully learned a lesson on how to better conduct himself as the representation of a team and sponsors. I don't see much point bringing it up over and over again.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
bakarin
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan121 Posts
October 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#2069
On October 14 2012 06:39 HeeroFX wrote:
I am glad EG is punishing him, and I am glad there was no running to the sponsers like we have seen in the past.


Reddit called the sponsors
akari~n
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
October 13 2012 21:41 GMT
#2070
On October 14 2012 06:21 AIOL! wrote:

EG is just robbing him.


Well, EG had to do whatever it took to please their sponsors and their fan base, so this was probably a compromise. It could've been worse, and I think EG handled it well.
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
October 13 2012 21:44 GMT
#2071
On October 14 2012 06:24 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:23 The_Darkness wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:00 vi4t0r wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


1.) it would be your word against mine. and i would plead not guilty. standard procedure.
2.) his problem is that he did say something that can be unambiguously interpreted as confessing to a crime.


It could be "unambiguously interpreted as a crime", by a retard at least, so I agree with you.

And now my thoughts on this drama:

1. Stephano was silly to say what he said given that everything you say whether on stream or off stream is memorialized in a game file and thus potentially subject to public scrutiny. He should have been aware of the risk that something like what happened would happen. He's thus partly to blame, but only because he's a public figure, not because of the substance of what he said.
2. The people who are bothered by such statements should simply either stop watching games played by Stephano or kill themselves (I'm fine with either alternative) rather than expend time and energy e-mailing sponsors and getting bent out of shape by off-color jokes and attempting to punish Stephano. The same strand of crazy, misinformed, idiotic energy that causes people to go off the deep end when they hear a rape joke is what leads preposterously devout muslims to physically attack newspapers, etc. that make jokes about mohammed. It isn't a healthy energy and should and would, in a perfect world, be punished.

I agree with both points, but unfortunately the group you labelled under 2 would not "simply either stop watching games played by Stephano or kill themselves". So EG must do what it did to preserve its appearance.


Although I did not state so above, I don't fault EG for what it did to be clear.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
October 13 2012 21:47 GMT
#2072
On October 14 2012 06:39 HeeroFX wrote:
I am glad EG is punishing him, and I am glad there was no running to the sponsers like we have seen in the past.

Why do you think EG punished him ? Sponsors were email-ed in mass.
CV-Mackh
Profile Joined April 2012
France102 Posts
October 13 2012 21:49 GMT
#2073
Ok, as a french, I kinda get the joke in there, but I would not do it online when I represent sc2, EG and the best hope for foreign Starcraft, so yeah well deserved smite
Just a few more drones I sware !
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 21:55:43
October 13 2012 21:55 GMT
#2074
On October 14 2012 06:47 Lasbike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:39 HeeroFX wrote:
I am glad EG is punishing him, and I am glad there was no running to the sponsers like we have seen in the past.

Why do you think EG punished him ? Sponsors were email-ed in mass.


Yep and as he is not as mediocre as Orb is, he didn't get kicked from the team but sent on vacation in korea.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
proxyShark
Profile Joined September 2011
31 Posts
October 13 2012 21:55 GMT
#2075
IKR .. (merica wins still) try harder
Wpgstevo
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada79 Posts
October 13 2012 21:56 GMT
#2076
Some people have taken to nicknaming stephano as "Pedophano". Anyone know if this was a joke or what?
KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
October 13 2012 22:00 GMT
#2077
Why do people call Stephano rapist? Even if this whole thing is true, in most European countries sex is allowed with 14 year olds, in France it is 15 I think but even then it has nothing to do with rape
With great power comes great responsibility.
vi4t0r
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland40 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 22:03:09
October 13 2012 22:01 GMT
#2078
On October 14 2012 06:23 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:00 vi4t0r wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:46 transcendent one wrote:



involved with what?

I could accuse you here: vi4t0r from Poland RAPED A CHILD!

and your case would have the very same amount of evidence as Stephano's. there is nothing to be involved with.


1.) it would be your word against mine. and i would plead not guilty. standard procedure.
2.) his problem is that he did say something that can be unambiguously interpreted as confessing to a crime.


It could be "unambiguously interpreted as a crime", by a retard at least, so I agree with you.

And now my thoughts on this drama:

1. Stephano was silly to say what he said given that everything you say whether on stream or off stream is memorialized in a game file and thus potentially subject to public scrutiny. He should have been aware of the risk that something like what happened would happen. He's thus partly to blame, but only because he's a public figure, not because of the substance of what he said.
2. The people who are bothered by such statements should simply either stop watching games played by Stephano or kill themselves (I'm fine with either alternative) rather than expend time and energy e-mailing sponsors and getting bent out of shape by off-color jokes and attempting to punish Stephano. The same strand of crazy, misinformed, idiotic energy that causes people to go off the deep end when they hear a rape joke is what leads preposterously devout muslims to physically attack newspapers, etc. that make jokes about mohammed. It isn't a healthy energy and should and would, in a perfect world, be punished.


so let me get this straight... you just put people making fun of religion on one pedestal together with self proclaimed comedians who tend to add to the spice with some racist and/or rape jokes?
arguing over belief/philosophy is one thing, but marginalizing issues associated with abuse/discrimination is plain ignorance

there was this one guy trying to bring it back to the common folk :D




A speech!?! Forget it!
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 13 2012 22:08 GMT
#2079
On October 14 2012 06:21 AIOL! wrote:
Am i the only shocked by this sanction ? This was pure joking, nothing serious. In France a joke like would never have been taken so seriously, everyday we see humorists on TV joking about these tragic incidents and even worse. I'm suspecting a cultural gap between a conservative society like USA and a more "liberal" one about those stuffs. I don't know, i'm even assuming doing the exact same joke with my friends, like a meme.
There absolutly nothing to complain about.
EG is just robbing him.

Stop saying France cause as a international figure he doesn't just belong to france.

Thing is where he is from he is considered and adult he should act like it.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
October 13 2012 22:11 GMT
#2080
Hope this whole incident actually contributes to Stephanos growing up.
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