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So much of this has gone by. I don't know why they do it, they always get caught at the end.
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On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you  As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely. for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail. i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports
Leveling account is not exactly the same as "pretending to be another person on stream" or 'enter showmatch / tournament as another pereson"...
You might not like either, but that doesn't mean they are same.
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Now Kawaiirice is going into his lategame composition consisting of followers on twitter.
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On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else
As far as I know, there's no rule against making an account name that isn't your own. Nobody can tell Kiwikaki he can't play on an account named AtheneWins. However, when it goes to using an entire identity that isn't your own across multiple platforms, then it becomes a little more serious.
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On September 25 2012 08:42 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely. for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail. i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports Leveling account is not exactly the same as "pretending to be another person on stream" or 'enter showmatch / tournament as another pereson"... You might not like either, but that doesn't mean they are same.
its the required first step for anyone to defraud the community by selling coaching they cant deliver on, 3-4 times now i can remember (and im sure there must be more cases people dont talk about) 'coaches' have turned out to be people who pay a pro, to be fair normally some nameless korean(but like i said, everyone 'knows' other people do it too), to level an account to GM, and then to use this as the stepping stone to defraud as many people as they can. pros leveling accounts is opening the door to this behavior, which would be much harder without a large supply of people who need an income while they play the game before they make it big.
i know its not the same, i just dont think deathangel has done anything worse than many other people, either in terms of 'cheating' or being a bit of a dick. being a bit of a dick is often a plus ;/
On September 25 2012 08:43 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else As far as I know, there's no rule against making an account name that isn't your own. Nobody can tell Kiwikaki he can't play on an account named AtheneWins. However, when it goes to using an entire identity that isn't your own across multiple platforms, then it becomes a little more serious.
athene owned the account, sharing accounts is against the TOS unless you are a minor then your parent can be the account owner.
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I'm a bit disappointed. Kawaii rofl-stomped the investigation so hard there wasn't even any back and forth in this thread. Should've made the OP in like 5 different parts imo, each one showing more and more evidence.
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On September 25 2012 08:41 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely. for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail. i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports ...wait...are you saying that stephano does this or that...by signing on EG...he is leveling EG?
He's saying that now we know Stephano on EG is a fact it's not the worst kept SC2 community secret.
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Lol this is funny. But seriously what does she have to gain from this? Seems like a lot of effort for not much gain. Honestly great post you actually have support that makes sense. She just got signed to do stuff for 6 pool gaming i saw on facebook like last week, bet they drop her lol. Anyway will be interesting to see what happens. She is not on a team or anything right?
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This is absolutely shameful. I've always felt that the Starcraft scene was about a genuine will to improve, and seeing this kind of deceit goes against what the game means to me.
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Shame on you Kristen Stewart, VeraLynn and DeathAngel!!
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On September 25 2012 08:46 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:42 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely. for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail. i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports Leveling account is not exactly the same as "pretending to be another person on stream" or 'enter showmatch / tournament as another pereson"... You might not like either, but that doesn't mean they are same. its the required first step for anyone to defraud the community by selling coaching they cant deliver on, 3-4 times now i can remember (and im sure there must be more cases people dont talk about) 'coaches' have turned out to be people who pay a pro, to be fair normally some nameless korean(but like i said, everyone 'knows' other people do it too), to level an account to GM, and then to use this as the stepping stone to defraud as many people as they can. pros leveling accounts is opening the door to this behaviour like this which would be much harder without a large supply of people who need an income while they play the game before they make it big. i know its not the same, i just dont think deathangel has done anything worse than many other people, either in terms of 'cheating' or being a bit of a dick. being a bit of a dick is often a plus ;/ Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:43 Pokebunny wrote:On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else As far as I know, there's no rule against making an account name that isn't your own. Nobody can tell Kiwikaki he can't play on an account named AtheneWins. However, when it goes to using an entire identity that isn't your own across multiple platforms, then it becomes a little more serious. athene owned the account, sharing accounts is against the TOS unless you are a minor then your parent can be the account owner.
Steal is wrong, murder is wrong, but they don't comes with same punishment with good reason.
That particular ToS is..... not useful in theory and impossible to enforce in practice, with the complication of tournament accounts, team house and all that good stuff.
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On September 25 2012 08:46 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:42 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely. for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail. i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports Leveling account is not exactly the same as "pretending to be another person on stream" or 'enter showmatch / tournament as another pereson"... You might not like either, but that doesn't mean they are same. its the required first step for anyone to defraud the community by selling coaching they cant deliver on, 3-4 times now i can remember (and im sure there must be more cases people dont talk about) 'coaches' have turned out to be people who pay a pro, to be fair normally some nameless korean(but like i said, everyone 'knows' other people do it too), to level an account to GM, and then to use this as the stepping stone to defraud as many people as they can. pros leveling accounts is opening the door to this behavior, which would be much harder without a large supply of people who need an income while they play the game before they make it big. i know its not the same, i just dont think deathangel has done anything worse than many other people, either in terms of 'cheating' or being a bit of a dick. being a bit of a dick is often a plus ;/ Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:43 Pokebunny wrote:On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else As far as I know, there's no rule against making an account name that isn't your own. Nobody can tell Kiwikaki he can't play on an account named AtheneWins. However, when it goes to using an entire identity that isn't your own across multiple platforms, then it becomes a little more serious. athene owned the account, sharing accounts is against the TOS unless you are a minor then your parent can be the account owner.
did kiwikaki do something bad to you?
also, athene never joined an sc2 tournament, showmatches, etc.
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You could say She just got Kawaii Rice'D!
PEACE DUMB BITCH
User was warned for this post
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So what did VeraLynn say KawaiiRice and how did she find out that you were investigating her?
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On September 25 2012 08:51 CodeskyE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:46 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:42 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely. for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail. i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports Leveling account is not exactly the same as "pretending to be another person on stream" or 'enter showmatch / tournament as another pereson"... You might not like either, but that doesn't mean they are same. its the required first step for anyone to defraud the community by selling coaching they cant deliver on, 3-4 times now i can remember (and im sure there must be more cases people dont talk about) 'coaches' have turned out to be people who pay a pro, to be fair normally some nameless korean(but like i said, everyone 'knows' other people do it too), to level an account to GM, and then to use this as the stepping stone to defraud as many people as they can. pros leveling accounts is opening the door to this behavior, which would be much harder without a large supply of people who need an income while they play the game before they make it big. i know its not the same, i just dont think deathangel has done anything worse than many other people, either in terms of 'cheating' or being a bit of a dick. being a bit of a dick is often a plus ;/ On September 25 2012 08:43 Pokebunny wrote:On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else As far as I know, there's no rule against making an account name that isn't your own. Nobody can tell Kiwikaki he can't play on an account named AtheneWins. However, when it goes to using an entire identity that isn't your own across multiple platforms, then it becomes a little more serious. athene owned the account, sharing accounts is against the TOS unless you are a minor then your parent can be the account owner. did kiwikaki do something bad to you? also, athene never joined an sc2 tournament, showmatches, etc.
yes, my defence of deathangel can only be explained by athene stuck his thingy in my naughty place, theres no other reason i could want to not shit all over a guy.
On September 25 2012 08:52 SilSol wrote:
So what did VeraLynn say KawaiiRice and how did she find out that you were investigating her?
it seems she became aware people were on to her last week (not specifically kawaii)when it surfaced on reddit without proof. op got downvoted to fuck because either didnt want to, or didnt have time to post evidence. would seem like the logical pointer that people were on to her.
On September 25 2012 08:51 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:46 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:42 ragz_gt wrote:On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely. for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail. i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports Leveling account is not exactly the same as "pretending to be another person on stream" or 'enter showmatch / tournament as another pereson"... You might not like either, but that doesn't mean they are same. its the required first step for anyone to defraud the community by selling coaching they cant deliver on, 3-4 times now i can remember (and im sure there must be more cases people dont talk about) 'coaches' have turned out to be people who pay a pro, to be fair normally some nameless korean(but like i said, everyone 'knows' other people do it too), to level an account to GM, and then to use this as the stepping stone to defraud as many people as they can. pros leveling accounts is opening the door to this behaviour like this which would be much harder without a large supply of people who need an income while they play the game before they make it big. i know its not the same, i just dont think deathangel has done anything worse than many other people, either in terms of 'cheating' or being a bit of a dick. being a bit of a dick is often a plus ;/ On September 25 2012 08:43 Pokebunny wrote:On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else As far as I know, there's no rule against making an account name that isn't your own. Nobody can tell Kiwikaki he can't play on an account named AtheneWins. However, when it goes to using an entire identity that isn't your own across multiple platforms, then it becomes a little more serious. athene owned the account, sharing accounts is against the TOS unless you are a minor then your parent can be the account owner. Steal is wrong, murder is wrong, but they don't comes with same punishment with good reason. That particular ToS is..... not useful in theory and impossible to enforce in practice, with the complication of tournament accounts, team house and all that good stuff.
yes and im not saying she should go to jail or anything am i. i only brought up that tos because pokebunny wasnt sure if athene actually broke any 'proper' rules doing what he did, i was merely pointing out that he did.
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On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything. Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament! why should he be? when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it. the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player. so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok? actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else
Kiwikaki never played in tournaments. I'd assume the community would be harsher on this person even if she hadnt won money doing this but it is still a big difference.. not sure why people bother doing this sort of thing.. silly..
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Never expected this, she was once a good friend of mine too until fame stole her and she didn't really -talk- to me or many other people anymore. She did inspire me to start my own stream and take my SC2 seriously (Even if I am only a gold ladder female player) it's still fun more than it can be frustrating. How could you Vera?
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Where dat snitch at?37110 Posts
Wait. What kind of a fraud is KawaiiRice saying she is?
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For those who think of getting coaches in the future, be more careful about who you choose.
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someone gimme the coles notes of the coles notes
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