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CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
September 24 2012 23:28 GMT
#541
sick build kawaiirice
Rival
Profile Joined November 2010
United States33 Posts
September 24 2012 23:28 GMT
#542
Well, it seems that she has already deleted her twitter, youtube, and twitch.tv accounts. Dont know if anyone has said that yet but seems that's a good response to this thread.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 24 2012 23:29 GMT
#543
On September 25 2012 08:26 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything.


Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament!



why should he be?

when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel hasnt done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it.


You are missing the important point. He played for vera in money tournaments and show matches. He didn't just boost her account. Playing for her in money tournaments is definitely fraudulent.


On top of that, she used her record in tourneys and show matches to sell coaching and get involved in the esports community. It wasn't just like "oh she laddered into GM using a booster" it was that she capitalized on it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Zergrusher
Profile Joined November 2011
United States562 Posts
September 24 2012 23:32 GMT
#544
Quotes from the Mothership that best describes all of this:


"Justice has Come"

"Our systems pulse with truth"

Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
September 24 2012 23:32 GMT
#545
Were there ever any tournaments that both DeathAngel and VeraLynn participated in? If so that'd be really really messed up, since it's essentially DeathAngel entering twice. If what Kawaii already provided isn't enough to have him banned from tournaments then that should be looked into.
brokeception
Profile Joined September 2012
Congo47 Posts
September 24 2012 23:33 GMT
#546
On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything.


Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament!



why should he be?

when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it.


the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player.


so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok?


do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely.

for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail.
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
September 24 2012 23:34 GMT
#547
So I might be remembering this wrong, but I remember watching the show recently with her and sheth on Chans show.

Sheth was looking at some of her game replays and going over them and I thought I heard her say a few times comments along the lines of "ya I'm not sure why I did that" or basically forgetting what she was thinking. Now I remember at the time just feeling like the whole thing was just all around a bit off.

This could totally be a revisionist way of thinking about it, but curious to go back and watch through the VOD now and listen to comments and reaction about her play considering.
yoyobags
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8 Posts
September 24 2012 23:34 GMT
#548
On September 25 2012 06:38 Perscienter wrote:

Yes and I don't understand the rage at all, especially from our war-mongers in North-America.

People have a very asymmetric approach to justice.


fuck u, u fucking nazi.

User was temp banned for this post.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
September 24 2012 23:35 GMT
#549
Looks like some good detective work here, sounds pretty solid. Eagerly awaiting a comment by this "VeraLynn"
(lol like it's gonna come)
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Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
September 24 2012 23:37 GMT
#550
On September 25 2012 08:34 yoyobags wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 06:38 Perscienter wrote:

Yes and I don't understand the rage at all, especially from our war-mongers in North-America.

People have a very asymmetric approach to justice.


fuck u, u fucking nazi.

Why would you make an account just to write this?
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
Zergrusher
Profile Joined November 2011
United States562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 23:39:35
September 24 2012 23:37 GMT
#551
On September 25 2012 08:34 yoyobags wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 06:38 Perscienter wrote:

Yes and I don't understand the rage at all, especially from our war-mongers in North-America.

People have a very asymmetric approach to justice.


fuck u, u fucking nazi.



Operation Paper Clip

Kindof makes your insult to him very ironic


Also Your comment was very un-needed and out of place

and it seems like you recently created your account just to try to mess with the people who are discussing the topic.

So basically your a paid troll trying to stir the pot.


Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 00:19:47
September 24 2012 23:38 GMT
#552
On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything.


Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament!



why should he be?

when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it.


the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player.


so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok?


actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or hate, and it was done just for fun, nothing else
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
September 24 2012 23:38 GMT
#553
and there goes the remaining hopes of females competing in esports
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
September 24 2012 23:38 GMT
#554
Hey....I don't think "leveling services" should include streaming and playing showmatches while masquerading as someone else.

In my opinion, that makes you an accomplice in the fraud.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
September 24 2012 23:39 GMT
#555
Man, love seeing this kind of epic shit go down. Nothing better than liars/scammers/trash getting exposed.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
September 24 2012 23:39 GMT
#556
On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything.


Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament!



why should he be?

when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it.


the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player.


so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok?




for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail.



User was warned for this post
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 23:41:29
September 24 2012 23:40 GMT
#557
On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything.


Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament!



why should he be?

when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it.


the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player.


so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok?


do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely.

for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail.


i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports.

On September 25 2012 08:38 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything.


Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament!



why should he be?

when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it.


the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player.


so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok?


actually, it's rather beause he did for athene, who is a known epic troll, who you either love or , and it was done just for fun, nothing else



its not fun, athenes job basically boils down to it, cheating. you can sugar coat it all you want but every game in which he has gotten 'fame' from has required him to break the rules to get where he is.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
September 24 2012 23:40 GMT
#558
On September 25 2012 08:34 yoyobags wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 06:38 Perscienter wrote:

Yes and I don't understand the rage at all, especially from our war-mongers in North-America.

People have a very asymmetric approach to justice.


fuck u, u fucking nazi.


Goodnight sweet prince.
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Melty Butter
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland52 Posts
September 24 2012 23:41 GMT
#559
lol at all the irish players now claiming they're the best again.

btw, I'm one of them.
Ass
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
September 24 2012 23:41 GMT
#560
On September 25 2012 08:40 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:33 brokeception wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:25 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:16 brokeception wrote:
On September 25 2012 08:13 turdburgler wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:49 Leru wrote:
On September 25 2012 07:45 ChosenSC2 wrote:
Any comments from Veralyn? I browsed this thread to see but didnt see anything.


Well I think she's going to use the ostrich strategy :D When things go bad, burry your head and pretend no one is seeing you As for DeathAngel, he'll be banned from any decent tournament!



why should he be?

when everyone knew kiwikaki was boosting athenes account (which although in a different method made money from this) everyone thought it was fun or didnt care. deathangel has done anything different. theres been murmurs since release that many pros are supplementing their income through boosting of accounts to different levels, deathangel isnt the first, wont be the last and isnt the only one doing it.


the difference is that kiwikaki is a chill guy and doesn't BM people better and more established than him. also, kiwikaki has notable achievements. deathangel deserves to be hated because he's an unknown player with no real achievements or hasn't ever beat anyone like stephano. kiwi deserves to be forgiven and not hated or judged by any means because he's kiwikaki, the mad scientist protoss and has actual achievements and is a known player.


so because kiwi was better at breaking the rules its ok?


do you know how the world works? the more known the person, the more they should be able to get away with things and be forgiven and overlooked. if they are just some random no name criminal like deathangel, then they should be punished severely.

for example, if stephano were to ladder for his friend or something and his friend coaches white boys for $100/hr, then stephano and his friend should be forgiven and nothing should happen to him, if say LzGamer does that, he should go to jail.


i fully understand that -_- and people cant help their biases. i just want people to think carefully about pitchforking deathangel because now that stephano is on EG the fact that a lot of 'pros' are leveling accounts is now back to number 1 on the list of worst kept secrets in esports

...wait...are you saying that stephano does this or that...by signing on EG...he is leveling EG?
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