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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
September 18 2012 17:15 GMT
#121
Unfortunate news. I guess IEM will have to hold their next event but have the same field of participants competing, at least as much as is possible.
OtoshimonoU
Profile Joined December 2011
United States509 Posts
September 18 2012 17:18 GMT
#122
On September 19 2012 01:30 oneofthem wrote:
ROFL



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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#123
Oh dang. I didn't figure it'd be that serious. Will be a quieter weekend in eSports.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
DMZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada51 Posts
September 18 2012 17:31 GMT
#124
I wonder if they can just hold it in another place. Not Guangzhou, but what about Hong Kong or somewhere relatively nearby?
“May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't.”- George S. Patton
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
September 18 2012 17:37 GMT
#125
On September 19 2012 00:16 JustPassingBy wrote:
Can't they just hold everything online?


While it's possible, I think everyone would agree that cancelling it is the better option. Online tournaments don't cut it these days for major tournament organizers like IEM.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 18 2012 17:39 GMT
#126
On September 19 2012 02:15 Bogeyman wrote:
Hmmmmm..... yes this is unfortunate.

If this does affect the WCS World Championships that would suck. But hey, I guess I wouldn't mind Blizzard simply giving Dreamhack the privilege of running another amazing tournament should that happen. Not gonna happen of course, but it would be cool as hell for a Stockholmer like me.

I don't see how this could have any effect on the WCS unless they were planning on hosting it at the same venue as some manga-anime-con in order to cut costs?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 18 2012 17:40 GMT
#127
On September 19 2012 02:31 DMZ wrote:
I wonder if they can just hold it in another place. Not Guangzhou, but what about Hong Kong or somewhere relatively nearby?


They can't because they were piggy backing on a convention for cheaper hosting. Had this been a venue rented by IEM for IEM, there wasn't going to be an issue. But it was piggy backed on an anime convention - and China is in no mood for anime.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 17:42:56
September 18 2012 17:42 GMT
#128
I was actually going to post that here myself, but it seems TL beat me to it.

This would've disappointed me if I was in Hong Kong studying for my master's like I plan to. I just want the fucking commies to stop doing this shit.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
September 18 2012 17:50 GMT
#129
All this over islands that no one lives on, wtf is wrong with out world
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
September 18 2012 17:52 GMT
#130
The rioting is on a very small scale and exaggerated dont think its sfety but just politics
AiurOG
Profile Joined March 2011
United States98 Posts
September 18 2012 18:02 GMT
#131
I hope qualified players will still be invited to some tourney down the line.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 18 2012 18:12 GMT
#132
Really bothers me how bad this is getting :/
But still looking forward to the next IEM. I hope the qualified players are transfered over to the next one.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
September 18 2012 18:15 GMT
#133
so now the china+japan stupidity is also killing esports :/

but.. good choice by IEM to do this however. (keep people safe~)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 18:22:17
September 18 2012 18:18 GMT
#134
On September 19 2012 00:34 ache7759 wrote:
Unfortunate news, why don't they move the even to Taiwan instead?!?! The location is close to China and I don't see any Taiwanese getting involved in the Chinese / Japanese conflict at all!! Just a thought...

On September 19 2012 02:31 DMZ wrote:
I wonder if they can just hold it in another place. Not Guangzhou, but what about Hong Kong or somewhere relatively nearby?

As far as I understood it, the Intel Extreme Masters (IEM) is a tournament series latched onto Intel's advertising presence at trade shows and conventions. If Intel isn't there, there will be no IEM that is paid for. It's virtually impossible to find a new equally-sized and serviced venue on such short notice, especially in another country.

+ Show Spoiler +
And it's not about little uninhabited islands, but about the abundance of natural resources believed to be there. That coupled with historical adverse sentiment led indirectly to a canceled Japanese anime fair, which in turn bereft IEM of their tournament location. A real shame.

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Ethi
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany275 Posts
September 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#135
Awww, that's unfortunate. Giving a compensation to the participants is a nice move from the ESL.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
September 18 2012 18:34 GMT
#136
China is a nationalistic-educated (brainwashed?) country ruled by one and only communist party. Any gatherings that can be linked to political issues, even as remote as Japanese culture, can have collateral damages, just as this IEM.

Blizzard should have taken this as a lesson, what if WCS in Shanghai is threatened to cancel as well? What if some of the players were denied Visa? Did Blizzard take that into account?
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Nakwa
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden93 Posts
September 18 2012 18:40 GMT
#137
"No political discussions in this thread."

Wow, almost missed that. It's placed so near the banner, with nothing especially outstanding that I just passed it on first page. I'm happy that I noticed it when moving to last page.
Lucky me, no ban today!
Midnight come and we wanna go home
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
September 18 2012 18:43 GMT
#138
Unfortunate stuff, but what must be done has to be done. I wish they could change the venue and continue with IEM elsewhere.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 18 2012 18:44 GMT
#139
On September 19 2012 01:52 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 01:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
In other words, its because of limitations from the sides of blizzard?


EU to China latency was terrible in WC3 (using LAN mode over something like VPN) as well, possible because of the Great Firewall of China in addition to the obvious distance.


Regarding latency, I saw CN vs foreigners play broodwar recently, and the latency wasn't that horrible.
But okay. I admit, I don't know whether the foreigners were in EU or NA, I just assumed EU as the games were played in EU primetime.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
September 18 2012 18:45 GMT
#140
Well shoot... Hopefully they settle this quickly so we can get the IEM circuit going smoothly w/o further delay into the next IEM event
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