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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
November 15 2012 01:51 GMT
#541
On November 15 2012 10:09 Bupalumpa wrote:
Plz someone explain GSL Word champion 7 foreign vs 5 Korean? Korea need 2 more players right?? Or i am seeing something wrong??


Miscommunication b/w IPL and Gom. It was supposed to be 5 all along, including stephano/naniwa. IPL thought it was 5+ stephano/naniwa. IPL cut 2 world spots, but since they told they players it would be 7, to make up for it, they granted the 2 extra world spots entry and paid flights into IPL 5, but they won't play in the gom vs world thing.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
November 20 2012 23:44 GMT
#542
Winners of Sen/HuK and Scarlett/Major will join Vortix, Lucifron, Nerchio, Stephano, and Naniwa as the Foreigner representatives in the GSL World Championship. I think it's a pretty safe bet to say Sen will beat Huk and Scarlett will beat Major, giving us 5 Zergs, 1 Protoss, and 1 Terran.

Looking at how the list panned out, I couldn't imagine a better lineup of 7 players to represent the foreigner scene. The initial fan voting was a popularity contest, yes, and a handful of skilled players were left out, but the best of the best did get enough votes to qualifiy for the bracket, and they subsequently met expectations and made it through to the end. It's sad to see the races so unbalanced, but that's just where all the skill is right now.

Looking at the Korean contingent on the other hand of Seed, Life, MC, DRG, and Squirtle, I have to think that if I were to imagine the top 5 Korean players right now, the only one from that list that I would pick is Life. The other 4 players are in slumps of varying degrees. They chose these players using the GSL Rankings, which is more indicative of a player's achievements throughout the whole calendar year rather than who is hot and who is not right now.

Maybe it's a bit optimistic to say the foreigners are favoured here, but I would put them no worse than 50/50.
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 23:50:47
November 20 2012 23:50 GMT
#543
On November 15 2012 10:51 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:09 Bupalumpa wrote:
Plz someone explain GSL Word champion 7 foreign vs 5 Korean? Korea need 2 more players right?? Or i am seeing something wrong??


Miscommunication b/w IPL and Gom. It was supposed to be 5 all along, including stephano/naniwa. IPL thought it was 5+ stephano/naniwa. IPL cut 2 world spots, but since they told they players it would be 7, to make up for it, they granted the 2 extra world spots entry and paid flights into IPL 5, but they won't play in the gom vs world thing.

The next two players on the GSL Rankings after Squirtle are Taeja and Genius (or Leenock if he wins his ro8 match tonight). All three of those players are already travelling to Las Vegas to compete in IPL5. Wouldn't it just be easier and better for everyone if they threw them onto the Korean team and played a 7v7 tournament somehow?

I can't really imagine what a 7v7 format would look like, but surely it would be better to do that then to bench one of the 5 foreigners who fought their way through a tough bracket to earn a spot on the team?
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 00:59:13
November 21 2012 00:58 GMT
#544
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.
Barra_Ka
Profile Joined January 2012
Spain5 Posts
November 25 2012 23:48 GMT
#545
there is a prize pool or just no money involved?
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
November 25 2012 23:52 GMT
#546
On November 21 2012 09:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.

GOM likes to treat it's ranking as important. I guess you can't really blame them, and at least points deteriorate now (not like last year) but ya, I guess the best thing you can say about how the Korean team was picked is that at least it's impartial. Agreed that it's not the best team they could send, though.
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
November 26 2012 00:17 GMT
#547
On November 26 2012 08:52 Fischbacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 09:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.

GOM likes to treat it's ranking as important. I guess you can't really blame them, and at least points deteriorate now (not like last year) but ya, I guess the best thing you can say about how the Korean team was picked is that at least it's impartial. Agreed that it's not the best team they could send, though.

It's only rankings from 2012 and decaying points from the gsl's earlier this year...so no...they are actually the best in gsl for 2012...
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 02:21:27
November 26 2012 02:16 GMT
#548
On November 26 2012 09:17 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 08:52 Fischbacher wrote:
On November 21 2012 09:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.

GOM likes to treat it's ranking as important. I guess you can't really blame them, and at least points deteriorate now (not like last year) but ya, I guess the best thing you can say about how the Korean team was picked is that at least it's impartial. Agreed that it's not the best team they could send, though.

It's only rankings from 2012 and decaying points from the gsl's earlier this year...so no...they are actually the best in gsl for 2012...


Well it's good that they decay, but gsl champs gain a boatload of points so decay doesn't really affect them. Apart from Life, team KR is team slumpuuuu!

My personal team would have been, Life, Leenock, MKP, Creator and DRG.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 26 2012 02:19 GMT
#549
On November 26 2012 11:16 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 09:17 Darkthorn wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:52 Fischbacher wrote:
On November 21 2012 09:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.

GOM likes to treat it's ranking as important. I guess you can't really blame them, and at least points deteriorate now (not like last year) but ya, I guess the best thing you can say about how the Korean team was picked is that at least it's impartial. Agreed that it's not the best team they could send, though.

It's only rankings from 2012 and decaying points from the gsl's earlier this year...so no...they are actually the best in gsl for 2012...


Well it's good that they decay, but gsl champs gain a boatload of points so decay doesn't really affect them. Apart from Life, team KR is team slumpuuuu!


Then they might as well only have Bogus, Ryung, Sniper, HyuN play since everyone else is slumping also.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 26 2012 02:24 GMT
#550
On November 26 2012 11:16 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 09:17 Darkthorn wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:52 Fischbacher wrote:
On November 21 2012 09:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.

GOM likes to treat it's ranking as important. I guess you can't really blame them, and at least points deteriorate now (not like last year) but ya, I guess the best thing you can say about how the Korean team was picked is that at least it's impartial. Agreed that it's not the best team they could send, though.

It's only rankings from 2012 and decaying points from the gsl's earlier this year...so no...they are actually the best in gsl for 2012...


Well it's good that they decay, but gsl champs gain a boatload of points so decay doesn't really affect them. Apart from Life, team KR is team slumpuuuu!

My personal team would have been, Life, Leenock, MKP, Creator and DRG.


The nice thing for the Korean representatives is that they all have excellent vZ, which is going to be key since Stephano-Scarlett-Nerchio is going to be a very tough nut to crack.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 26 2012 02:47 GMT
#551
On November 26 2012 11:16 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 09:17 Darkthorn wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:52 Fischbacher wrote:
On November 21 2012 09:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.

GOM likes to treat it's ranking as important. I guess you can't really blame them, and at least points deteriorate now (not like last year) but ya, I guess the best thing you can say about how the Korean team was picked is that at least it's impartial. Agreed that it's not the best team they could send, though.

It's only rankings from 2012 and decaying points from the gsl's earlier this year...so no...they are actually the best in gsl for 2012...


Well it's good that they decay, but gsl champs gain a boatload of points so decay doesn't really affect them. Apart from Life, team KR is team slumpuuuu!

My personal team would have been, Life, Leenock, MKP, Creator and DRG.


That is the problem tho. If they handpicked like you have, there would always be arguements. IE. Why not PartinG over MKP/Creator. Sniper also looks more solid than DRG at this moment. Since they also used GSL points for WCS seedings and so forth, it gives GOM some consistency.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 02:52:16
November 26 2012 02:51 GMT
#552
On November 26 2012 11:47 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 11:16 Canucklehead wrote:
On November 26 2012 09:17 Darkthorn wrote:
On November 26 2012 08:52 Fischbacher wrote:
On November 21 2012 09:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
"Korean players were chosen by GSL ranking". Pretty lame tbh, those players who accumulated that ranking arent playing very well at the moment. They shoulda hand-picked. Leenock>DRG, Rain, Creator>Seed, MC. Too bad MVP cant play either. Well European line-up is cool, Korean not so much. No doubt it will be good tournament, but could've been better.

GOM likes to treat it's ranking as important. I guess you can't really blame them, and at least points deteriorate now (not like last year) but ya, I guess the best thing you can say about how the Korean team was picked is that at least it's impartial. Agreed that it's not the best team they could send, though.

It's only rankings from 2012 and decaying points from the gsl's earlier this year...so no...they are actually the best in gsl for 2012...


Well it's good that they decay, but gsl champs gain a boatload of points so decay doesn't really affect them. Apart from Life, team KR is team slumpuuuu!

My personal team would have been, Life, Leenock, MKP, Creator and DRG.


That is the problem tho. If they handpicked like you have, there would always be arguements. IE. Why not PartinG over MKP/Creator. Sniper also looks more solid than DRG at this moment. Since they also used GSL points for WCS seedings and so forth, it gives GOM some consistency.


Well I agree, there would be complaints about players no matter what system you use. GSL points is the safest way to do it because no favourtism can be implied.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
dardoz
Profile Joined June 2011
Ireland26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 13:34:51
November 26 2012 13:31 GMT
#553
I don't get it. According to liquipedia:

Naniwa and Stephano were invited, and then the rest of the players for the rest of the world were chosen by popular vote.


However, Grubby was by far the most popular vote, yet he is not one of the invites... Is Liquipedia wrong, or did GSL just totally ignore the vote?

Edit... nevermind, just noticed the qualifier
UT > Q > SC2??
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
November 26 2012 13:36 GMT
#554
Nani for PvZ? cmon he got 6-0d by Nerchio like a month ago
oh in the sun sun having fun
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 14:10:13
November 26 2012 14:07 GMT
#555
I guess bumblebee will be the world teams coach.

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