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-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
September 14 2012 00:15 GMT
#421
Wow, way to ruin my perception of kittens. I'll never get another kitten again thanks to MoW.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
September 14 2012 00:23 GMT
#422
Thank god they didn't use maru!
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
September 14 2012 00:30 GMT
#423
Adding these images in a jokingly manner does not bold well with this kind of statement. It shows the attitude of MoW does not taking the whole issue seriously and professionally.

It seems to me they are only releasing this because of pressure of not wanting to escalating this further, but in the same time with the underlying tone "Chill down, why mad bro?"
Leenock the Punisher
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
September 14 2012 00:31 GMT
#424
So... sorry if I missed it somewhere, but is the MoW finally going to pay Fuzer back what they owed?
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
September 14 2012 00:41 GMT
#425
On September 14 2012 09:31 Sky101 wrote:
So... sorry if I missed it somewhere, but is the MoW finally going to pay Fuzer back what they owed?


afaik, no. As stated in the official statement - the refund was offered and rejected. MoW also conveniently omitted the context and condition - Boss would only issue a refund on condition that Fuzer kept his mouth shut.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
September 14 2012 00:42 GMT
#426
On September 14 2012 09:31 Sky101 wrote:
So... sorry if I missed it somewhere, but is the MoW finally going to pay Fuzer back what they owed?

They already offered to pay him back (apparently so that he doesn't go public about it), but apparently he refused.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
September 14 2012 00:46 GMT
#427
On September 14 2012 01:24 SC2MENA wrote:
Too little, too late. I forgot who said that.


These guys?
+ Show Spoiler +


MoW, I really wanted to like you. But this was such a delayed response, and obviously carefully calculated, that I find it really hard to do.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
Magrath
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada292 Posts
September 14 2012 00:50 GMT
#428
So they gave him 3 days to contact his lawyer and get him/her to submit the proper license. Then basically said sign or gtfo. That's way too short if you ask me. Lawyers have schedules too.
Anything can be acheived through persistence and thought
SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
September 14 2012 00:51 GMT
#429
On September 14 2012 01:26 Zim23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
a refund for the remaining days has been offered and turned down.


What an underhanded way to put it. This statement doesn't refute that you at first REFUSED to pay the guy back and then after being threatened offered to refund the cash.


Yes, glossed over the portion of the situation that seems to be the main issue of concern for the community. What did this statement really say? "We should have had him sign the contract first. And, oh yea, we are working on the food. Now, please be pacified and kindly overlook the heart of the issue. Kittens."
"Whatever [flash] says is the best, is the best" -Artosis i!i!i!i!i!Find Match!i!i!i!i!!i
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
September 14 2012 00:55 GMT
#430
It's hard to take an official statement seriously when you end it with kitten pics ...
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 00:59:02
September 14 2012 00:57 GMT
#431
Geez, what kind of "business" is this MoW, ffs?? Just pay the kid back his money. I refund my customers their money for much less than this. Some "business" this MoW is.

I say, fire this "boss" and get a real one, who knows how to run a business.
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
September 14 2012 00:57 GMT
#432
Why did they decide to post on TL.net instead of a reputable news place such as EFSIworld?

To also add pictures of animals to official statements screams out unprofessional.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 14 2012 01:03 GMT
#433
Thank you for posting the statement, now I have a clearer picture of things. Thank you also for starting a thread with kittens then leads to the random acts of puppy picture posting.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
September 14 2012 01:06 GMT
#434
I just. I'm not sure why that was the response specifically. So much BS interlaced with what you needed to say. These things don't have to be so convoluted. I can tell that this is not sincere whatsoever. All I see is an organization trying to save face by making a move because they know that's what people expect.

I hope you really do learn something from this. It's not that you need a better 'method of dealings'. It's not that you need to rethink your procedures. You need to re-think your priorities. If your priorities are in the right place this would never happen, not like this, no way no how, it'd be impossible.

I wish you luck in the future, but I won't be going out of my way to support you. I wish all of your players much much luck however. As i'll always support all the players who don't cheat.
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
Lallis
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland25 Posts
September 14 2012 01:07 GMT
#435
On September 14 2012 04:54 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 04:51 dacimvrl wrote:
On September 14 2012 04:47 ~Maverick~ wrote:
On September 14 2012 04:45 dacimvrl wrote:
On September 14 2012 04:37 Roman666 wrote:
On September 14 2012 04:32 coolguy00 wrote:
(Skype log, censored the name of the guy who runs MoW = Boss)

[11.9.2012 12:41:24] Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen: so you have to pay me back from th emoney

[11.9.2012 12:41:33] Boss: nope, I don't have

[11.9.2012 12:41:40] Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen: ok

[11.9.2012 12:41:50] Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen: so i paid you from this month

[11.9.2012 12:41:53] Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen: and im not here for this month

[11.9.2012 12:41:56] Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen: so you give back my money

[11.9.2012 12:41:58] Boss: You are breaking the rules

[11.9.2012 12:42:02] Boss: you know how it works?

[11.9.2012 12:42:06] Boss: If not - read the contract again

[11.9.2012 12:42:08] Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen: well

[11.9.2012 12:42:11] Samuli "Fuzer" Romppanen: as you said i didnt sign it

[11.9.2012 12:42:17] Boss: So I don't have your money

[11.9.2012 12:42:32] Boss: Do you have any confirmation?

[11.9.2012 12:42:41] Boss: No. So now you see my situation when you don't sign the contract.

I don't understand how anyone who has read this^ could still defend MoW or "Boss".

I don't understand why people get so excited about this mouth off.

It like:

1. Give me back my money I am leaving.
2. You are entitled to get shit.
3. But I paid you for the whole month in advance and I am leaving now.
4. You violated the rules of the contract.
5. Hahahaha I never signed it so I dont have to obey the rules!
6. Hahahaha I never got your money. In fact you were never here.


except for

1. Give me back my money, you kicked me out because I didn't want to sign the contract before running it through my lawyer, which you wouldn't let me unless I provide you with the credentials of my lawyer. <- yeh okay dude.
2. pretty much as you said.
3. But I paid you in advance, and you kicked me out, because I won't be coerced to sign the shady contract, which I didn't want to sign before running it through my lawyer first.
4. You violated a contract you didn't even sign, so I get to keep the monies.
5. I didn't sign it.
6. har har, i never got your money.

Now that I provided the actual context, better?


Basically, he should have been forced to sign the contract before he moved in.


or they should have just sent Fuzer a copy of the contract so he could run it through his lawyer. How's that even hard? How? Why does MoW even want Fuzer's lawyer's credentials or whatever? What does it even concern them? Let's just omit all that and post pictures of kittens

Or, you can just not give random people money. You know? It's kind of standard in life. Would you just give some random guy $500? No, but that's what fuzer did. Never signed the contract, so this is his problem. He's the one who fucked up. Sneaky or not, MoW>fuzer.


Wow, congratulations. You actually made me facepalm IRL.
Doesn't happen every day over the internet!
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
September 14 2012 01:08 GMT
#436
The pictures of the kittens ruined the statement. Doen't feel like they are taking this seriously. Boycott that shit!
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
fatalslaughter
Profile Joined July 2012
16 Posts
September 14 2012 01:33 GMT
#437
I hope MoW goes bankrupt
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 01:45:45
September 14 2012 01:40 GMT
#438
people dont write super-ultra-obvious-political-like-we-did-nothing-wrong-we-super-innocent-we-love-u-pr-statement like this one then finish it off with kittens on a serious issue without other means.

i'm sure mow is laughing their ass off, "we dont give a fck what you guys think, we be makin $$$"
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 14 2012 01:43 GMT
#439
The guy in charge of MoW seems to be a pretty infamous and shady guy in the polish community, involved in things like refusing to pay prize money and such, then there is this blatant lie of having offered fuzer a refund when he did that after fuzer threatened to go public, and then the guy tries to pull this kitten bs, I'm thinking psychopath.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
September 14 2012 01:53 GMT
#440
Kittens ehh so clever... Nice statement and because of kittens we can all relate and consider MoW as brothers now......

If only i was 5 this might work....
zimz
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