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mjuuy
Norway506 Posts
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Noam
Israel2209 Posts
As a community, can we all agree to never call this tournament MvP though? We have enough confusion with those 3 letters as is. | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:51 Resilient wrote: MLG is an American company, with American sponsors(at least the DIVISION responsible for that region before you bring up things like benQ/Xperia etc). It should seem obvious that this is their key demographic. 12 NA players is bullshit if you look at it purely from a SC2 perspective, there would be like a handful invites max. But that's not good for business at all. As long as the 12 invites are used properly, i.e. inviting up-and-comers and people who stand a realistic chance, then it should be great. I just hope they don't invite "personalities" who will crash and burn instantly all for the sake of a cheap pop. That is not sustainable at all. But I don't think NA fans are all that into NA players. You got your Idra, Huk, may be Sheth, but then it drops off really quickly. Of course there's the Incontrols, Destinys, and Nonys of the world, but they're nowhere near competitive enough to warrant an invite. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
With that said, this is the tournament we've all been waiting for really. Can't wait to see some of the foreigner vs Kespa matches. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:44 Nimic wrote: Violet isn't remotely North American. Also, calling it hate is silly. No one said every EU pro is better than every NA pro. But it's hard to argue against the top foreigners being EU players, and EU having more top foreigners in general. Making it an even split would make some sense, since it's MLG, but having that many more NA than EU players isn't a good idea. In all honesty, most of them will go out round 1. Actually, Violet is considered NA when he qualifies for tournaments like MLG and IEM. Not sure if your arguement makes sense. If we want to base it purely on skill, we should just invite more koreans. If not, then I don't see much difference picking the top 'foreigners' or the top 'NA' players. I agree that EU has more players that are more competitive with the Koreans but you see a lot of EU players in Dreamhack, IEMs that aren't really competitive. But since the tournament takes place there, it makes sense to have some locals. | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:56 Noam wrote: This is great! As a community, can we all agree to never call this tournament MvP though? We have enough confusion with those 3 letters as is. And now, the IPLTAC MVP will take on the best zerg in the world, from MVP, who just defeated MVP in this THRILLING MvP! | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:57 AndAgain wrote: But I don't think NA fans are all that into NA players. You got your Idra, Huk, may be Sheth, but then it drops off really quickly. Of course there's the Incontrols, Destinys, and Nonys of the world, but they're nowhere near competitive enough to warrant an invite. I am sure MLG has more detail numbers on viewers on stream when certain matches are being played. Not sure how you can just make the statement NA fans aren't that into NA players with any numbers to support you. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10131 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:59 TheDougler wrote: And now, the IPLTAC MVP will take on the best zerg in the world, from MVP, who just defeated MVP in this THRILLING MvP! yo dawg i heard you like MvP so... | ||
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Resilient
United Kingdom1431 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:57 AndAgain wrote: But I don't think NA fans are all that into NA players. You got your Idra, Huk, may be Sheth, but then it drops off really quickly. Of course there's the Incontrols, Destinys, and Nonys of the world, but they're nowhere near competitive enough to warrant an invite. I don't really agree. Casuals make up the bulk of SC2 viewership, and I'd imagine they'd like to see people they can relate to, and cheer on. This is consistent for all sports and all countries. I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the invites. I of course, would like to see 8/8/8, at least to make it more competitive and truly a "worldly" league. I can at least understand the reasoning....to a degree. | ||
MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On September 14 2012 02:00 vthree wrote: I am sure MLG has more detail numbers on viewers on stream when certain matches are being played. Not sure how you can just make the statement NA fans aren't that into NA players with any numbers to support you. Viewership is definitely affected by the presence of EU and NA players. It is a fact that viewership goes DOWN after the last 'foreigner' (hate that term) is eliminated. As a company we will definitely be focusing more and more on North America, not exclusively but this region will be a priority. North American players winning, gaining confidence, getting better, etc. is great for the scene as a whole. We need there to be aspiration to be the best in North America, and that should not REQUIRE you moving to Seoul to prove it/make a living (at least in our opinion). In any case, for those speculating about the invites, here is the list of players we have formally invited. We did NOT include the Top 8 from Raleigh as they are already in Group Play: Korea/Taiwan DongRaeGu MarineKing Alicia MC Puma Mvp Europe Naniwa Stephano Sase Sockeh Grubby Ret North America Huk Idra Select Sheth Sasquatch Illusion KawaiiRice Hawk Caliber Scarlett Vibe Major ***THIS LIST IS INVITED PLAYERS, NOT CONFIRMED PLAYERS*** Also please remember that we still have online qualifiers for group play spots for KR, EU, and NA. Edit: Top 8 from Raleigh that are already in Dallas Groups: Leenock First Taeja TheSTC Hero Violet Revival, Heart | ||
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Labbetuss
Norway568 Posts
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yesrr
United States26 Posts
On September 14 2012 00:07 MLGAnnouncements wrote: Because of the high demand for regular online content, we will be presenting more competitive gaming programming at www.majorleaguegaming.com, Really? Who is in demand for this? We already have multiple daily SC2 competitions along with personal streams. It's already over saturated as is, I don't think anyone was asking MLG for more content. | ||
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
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Shadow_Dog
Canada427 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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ZooG
Sweden618 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 14 2012 02:06 MLG_Adam wrote: Viewership is definitely affected by the presence of EU and NA players. It is a fact that viewership goes DOWN after the last 'foreigner' (hate that term) is eliminated. As a company we will definitely be focusing more and more on North America, not exclusively but this region will be a priority. North American players winning, gaining confidence, getting better, etc. is great for the scene as a whole. We need there to be aspiration to be the best in North America, and that should not REQUIRE you moving to Seoul to prove it/make a living (at least in our opinion). In any case, for those speculating about the invites, here is the list of players we have formally invited. We did NOT include the Top 8 from Raleigh as they are already in Group Play: Korea/Taiwan DongRaeGu MarineKing Alicia MC Puma Mvp Europe Naniwa Stephano Sase Sockeh Grubby Ret North America Huk Idra Select Sheth Sasquatch Illusion KawaiiRice Hawk Caliber Scarlett Vibe Major ***THIS LIST IS INVITED PLAYERS, NOT CONFIRMED PLAYERS*** Also please remember that we still have online qualifiers for group play spots for KR, EU, and NA. Glad to hear it Adam. There has been far to much focus on inviting Korean players to NA and EU events. It is awesome to see players being able to compete locally, rather than have to battle through 10-15 code S players in every event. It is the only way the NA players going to make it without moving to Seoul. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
 ^^ but otherwise then thatfunny if the 6 korea seeds not go 100% to gom but some to kespa by qualifier as well xD i understand mlg is usa but its not good idea have 12 americans 6 europes, not even there are more good european players but its bad for america too. you harldy find 12 gamers who niot will gone smashy day when playing the koreans so you look worse then europe just but having more players | ||
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