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On September 13 2012 06:20 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 06:17 Brahoono wrote:
Whats with that 600€ discussion? MoW is no charity project...its a buisness. Sure you can live of 600€ in Poland pretty decently...but if pros decide to go there and have everything taken care of to just practice and improve on their game the price is obviously okay. Nothing wrong with that. Problem is also the revenue from streams (which entirely depends on % which are unknown to us) and they weren't delivered what promised (coach, healthy enviroment, training schedules, etc).
Well if the last part is correct it obviously is pretty huge bullshit. Also if Bossdude has Fuzers money and didn't want to return it...thats bs too.
As for the cut from stream revenues..it is stated in the contract is guess. No player is forced to sign that or move into that house. Everybody there knows the contract so I seriously don't get why people think of it as scam.
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On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...
Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.
Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?
kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.
Actually, if you'd read any of this, you'd know that he was told about the contract after arriving.
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On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.
Unless the article is being released within lets say, 30 minutes? Your business and organisation is dead to me. To say it bluntly.
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So much drama. I keep F5 but my fingers hurt and I'm always asleep. I can't wait any longer for the statement. I hope they release it by tomorrow.
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Lol failing, failing and more failing for MoW
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On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.
Why not just post it in this thread? It's going to be cun-and-pasted in here anyway.
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On September 13 2012 06:26 Inzult wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay. What the fuck, so i pressed F5 for 30 minutes to be told that i have to wait?
This leaves me disappointed. 
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On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...
Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.
Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?
kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.
go away polish cunt. ur country is full of criminals.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Isn't it like 10 people living in that house? So, like 5-6 grand from just the 'rent'? And they have sponsorship deals at least of some sort on top of that. Hmm, yeah, sounds fair.
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On September 13 2012 06:26 Vermiiifuuge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay. If your statement is done, why not release it?
Probably to make sure they get the best PR spin on it
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On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...
Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.
Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?
kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.
That hotel example is so bad lol because most of the time you pay when you leave the hotel not when you come in....so they can only charge you for the time you stay despite having a longer reservation. Vice versa, if you have a reservation to stay 3 days and you decide to stay longer, most hotels don't kick you out.
This may not apply to some smaller hostels/inn/motels in Europe but for most of them in the U.S. or established franchises around the world, thats how it works.
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On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.
Hey, you know that TeamLiquid is a respected eSports news source, right?
No, fucking really. It is. They do event coverage and interviews and everything. Its kind of what the entire site is about.
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It doesn't seem like a team house to benefit the players, it's a team house to benefit the owner. It's a business to him.
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I am interested to see desrow ret sage response on their situation's so far , somehow should try to get one of them to interview , anyone write for esports should try this is very interesting situation , MoW had me under impression of gourmet meals, exercising routines, time away from computer every few hours , basically the living dream for a pro player trying to become better. I mean it sounded almost better than the EG house .. "almost" to me when they released pictures and videos and their goal / set up . This is arguably strange I am interested to hear their opinion but we need other MoW resident's opinion to find out the absolute truth , right now it's mow management vs this guy alone who is telling the truth ? Who is lying ? Anyone can type a skype convo like that , although I do believe this guy myself.
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On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...
Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.
Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?
kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.
you forgot that Fuzer didn't just decide to leave. He had to leave because he didn' feel comfortable signing a contract he wasn*t sure he fully understood. Kind of complicated if you go from there, he didn't sign the contract but paid, let him stay? kick him out? If you kick him out, is it their obligation to pay back the money he paid for the other 3 weeks of his 2nd month? im not sure any hotel would keep the money if the customer has a good reason to leave and if they kick him out for some reason i'm pretty sure a hotel would pay back the amount he overpaid.
talking out of my ass here.
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On September 13 2012 06:27 Dumbtruck wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...
Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.
Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?
kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will. go away polish cunt. ur country is full of criminals.
I see a banhammer incoming...
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On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...
Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.
Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?
kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.
So let me ask you this: Is a shady house driven in a shady way by a shady figure something that shouldn't be discussed in the open? Or is it perhaps, in the long run, better if such things are exposed and weeded out?
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On September 13 2012 06:26 Vermiiifuuge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay. If your statement is done, why not release it?
LOL! That is the greatest BIAS they could have!
What source is more trusted than Team Liquid?
When they say sorry for the delay they actually mean "we are taking our time to make you believe our lies"
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Seems a little shady to let someone else release a statment for the organization instead of themselves addressing such an issue?
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