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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Campfire
Profile Joined September 2011
United States48 Posts
September 12 2012 21:28 GMT
#761
On September 13 2012 06:27 Dumbtruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.


go away polish cunt. ur country is full of criminals.


holy crap your an angry person
p1cKLes
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
September 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#762
On September 13 2012 06:28 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:27 Dumbtruck wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.


go away polish cunt. ur country is full of criminals.

I see a banhammer incoming...



User was warned for this post
Pertan
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden33 Posts
September 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#763
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.

"Trusted" as in letting both parties give their side of the story? A letter of defense can be posted anywhere.
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor"
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
September 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#764
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.


I don't understand this. Just make your own post and statement on Teamliquid.
Getting too old for this..
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
September 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#765
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.



Are you implying that you aren't a trusted news source for your own statement?


wtf?
XiWi
Profile Joined August 2012
11 Posts
September 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#766
Excuse me Destiny seriously? NDA? How do you want to force that? MoW isn't the one paying the player here, so basicly you are paying somebody for a service and they are the ones to keep it disclosed( Have you ever heard of this? If you are the one getting paid then OK but this)? If this is not shady what is? Also the 10 years thing is ridiculous for a service you pay. Its like I'll call the plumber to fix my problems and next time I get the same problem I'm legally not allowed to fix it myself and forced to call him again.
Sherklok
Profile Joined June 2011
United States34 Posts
September 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#767
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.


As much as we all appreciate an update, I am sure we would all appreciate hearing it directly from the Ministry of Win not a news source. Generally news sources are biased, I would appreciate that when this unnamed source releases the story that Fuzer's side is shared in full from him.
NA protoss.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
September 12 2012 21:30 GMT
#768
On September 13 2012 06:29 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.



Are you implying that you aren't a trusted news source for your own statement?


wtf?


THIS!!!!

Also, what source is more trusted than Team Liquid!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
September 12 2012 21:30 GMT
#769
So, seeming the lack of statement, how about posting what we'd LIKE to see in the statement?

Personally I would like them to;
1. Shorten the period of the non-compete to something like 2-3 years which is far more reasonable.
2. Give Fuzer back the money that he gave them for the time that he didn't get to spend there.
3. Review their business practices and ensure that everyone involved in the MoW project knows the exact terms and conditions beforehand. Not when tickets are already booked and certainly not when someone is already there.

3 here including giving people a copy of the contract that they can send to any legal aid they want to review it.

I personally don't care about the hours of streaming and the cut they take, if people don't like it, they can not go there. There's morally nothing wrong with it, if they want to make money and players want to pay to be there, fine.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
September 12 2012 21:30 GMT
#770
Mow, why so fishy? Just copy paste it in this thread please.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Dr_Jones
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway252 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#771
I'm confused... When did this thread become a debate between Destiny, an industry insider in eSports with insight on the MoW contract and process, albeit with an extremely pragmatic view of how the world works, and a lot of people who have no insight nor knowledge of how eSports works? Morality always loses out to cynicism, and if you get fucked over by it then that's your own fault for not realizing you were in a weak position. Tough shit, but that's the way the cookie crumbles...
wubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwub I love me some dubstep wubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwub
chindy
Profile Joined September 2011
82 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#772
On September 13 2012 06:28 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.



Hey, you know that TeamLiquid is a respected eSports news source, right?

No, fucking really. It is. They do event coverage and interviews and everything. Its kind of what the entire site is about.


love you for this one...
Gardel
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico220 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#773
HOw do yo fucking dare MoW to imply TL is not a serious and trusted news source, it has been my life for 8 years, personally Fuck you and sorry for the language but I´m mad.

User was warned for this post
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln.
Torrathyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada95 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#774
On September 13 2012 06:28 Campfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:26 Vermiiifuuge wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.

If your statement is done, why not release it?


Probably to make sure they get the best PR spin on it

They won't post it in this thread, they'll likely create their own thread (or get the trusted eSports news source to create it).
Either way, it will reach TL soon. Hopefully -_-
Talent < Skill < Practice < Dedication
Cor_Malek
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland61 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#775
The 600€ is an amount everyone knew of since the start. Basically, you can live elsewhere for that amount very decently and even hire some house help - but cost of living in Warsaw is somewhat high (as it can be in capitols), and if you're going to make a gaming house in Poland - it's going to be there - because you want to be close to a good airport hub - and other cities in Poland have either limited number of chartered flights, or they go through Warsaw anyway.

Airline connection is IMHO on par with broadband internet accessibility and above cost of living when it comes to location of a gaming house.

So for that exact location, the cost does not seem unreasonable.

Anyhoo, approaching 2,5 h - if there's nothing in next 30 min, I urge you all to check back in 12-15 hours, as it's almost midnight in Poland.

It's dangerous to go alone. Here, take this.
Two little goblins out in the sun. Down came a griffin, and there was one.
nesneros
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States11 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#776
On September 13 2012 06:28 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:27 Dumbtruck wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.


go away polish cunt. ur country is full of criminals.

I see a banhammer incoming...


User was temp banned for this post.

haha

User was warned for this post
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#777
On September 13 2012 06:29 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.



Are you implying that you aren't a trusted news source for your own statement?


wtf?


Exactly.
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#778
On September 13 2012 06:28 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:27 Dumbtruck wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.


go away polish cunt. ur country is full of criminals.

I see a banhammer incoming...


only temp ban lol

User was warned for this post
oh in the sun sun having fun
Sailincieri
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland83 Posts
September 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#779
On September 13 2012 06:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.

No it isn't.
Even in Poland, you have to pay taxes. And if Fuzer really didn't get a receipt, that's illegal right there. No need to look further.


MoW may have a receipt/invoice...
The fact that Fuzer did not get it (never mind the reason), it does not mean it's illegal.
EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
September 12 2012 21:32 GMT
#780
Shouldn't have said "released within two hours" in his original post and then saying he passed it on to a news source who'll release it for them in the 2 hours...
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