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Stop derailing with living cost talk On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote: Press Release: http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012 Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com. - Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00) On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote: http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims - Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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MannerBro
United States17 Posts
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spbelky
United States623 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:22 RogerX wrote: I can't help but keep thinking its FXOBoss with that placeholder.. I can't help but find that insulting. FXOBoss > "boss" | ||
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Sailincieri
Poland83 Posts
Destiny has 100% right. Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid. Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back. You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen? kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW. If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
 Well, at least i have something to read at work tomorrow, please dont disappoint (work can be quite boring, so i need something exciting to read!). | ||
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
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Fearce
Denmark48 Posts
Until then, f5 f5 f5 f5 f5 f5 f5 | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:20 delHospital wrote: Well, I'm sure you can find a "place" for 10€ in Poland, but I wouldn't exactly call it a "hotel". I found a place for $15 a night in NYC, right by central park. The room is as big as the bed, and that's all there is in it, but at least it's not outside. | ||
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hYrasD
Germany164 Posts
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xcitenl
Netherlands8 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:12 kafkaesque wrote: 600 bucks for a room in Poland, sharing a house with a bunch of other dudes? My appartement is 400 bucks, for 60 m², that's two rooms, a roomy bathroom and a large kitchen. And I don't have to live in Poland. The remaining 200 Euro would buy 110 pounds of cheese, or 300 liters of milk, or 150 kilos of carrots, or 300 kilos of potatoes, or 75 kilos of chicken, or 20 kilos of chocolate, so I could eat like a king every day of the month from that. There is no fucking way the additional streaming revenues are remotely justified and the Chat-Log makes me not want to support any member of the MoW-house in any way, shape or form. and your pc hardware and electricity + gas and water, insurances, funiture. internet, fitness equipment and more. if so i need to move to germany as that is cheap. here in the netherlands in the middel of nowhere a funitured included gas, water, light will be 600+. | ||
snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:17 Brahoono wrote: Whats with that 600€ discussion? MoW is no charity project...its a buisness. Sure you can live of 600€ in Poland pretty decently...but if pros decide to go there and have everything taken care of to just practice and improve on their game the price is obviously okay. bussines shouldn't make money off their employees, but rather the product employees can create. i think 600E per person is way too much for Poland standards, maybe if they lived in France or something i'd get it, but this is just wrong... for that amount of cash you can live like a god, and we have Fuzer saying food is scarce. then again, the move boss did with "no contract no money" is more like a message, i don't think he meant it literally. in fact, doesn't it say that they later contacted and he was promised his money back, and that by posting this he is (only now) probably risking it? it's in the OP that i already forgot lol :D anyways, point is that the money aspect of the project should actually be a dicussion priority here, no offense to fuzer/boss dispute and their feelings... | ||
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Danzo
2820 Posts
Tiger Trouble? Better Call Saul! Word of advice but it's probably not a good idea to post a goofy youtube clip right now. This isn't 4chan. | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote: Stupid drama made by Fuzer... Destiny has 100% right. Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid. Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back. You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen? kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW. If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will. From the skype log Fuzer posted, they were initially not willing to give back any money, which most certainly would put them in the wrong. | ||
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MinistryOfWin
Poland87 Posts
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Leijona
Finland56 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:17 Brahoono wrote: Whats with that 600€ discussion? MoW is no charity project...its a buisness. Sure you can live of 600€ in Poland pretty decently...but if pros decide to go there and have everything taken care of to just practice and improve on their game the price is obviously okay. Can we stop even mentioning the 600E now and stop with this talk. It is clear that 600 euros is way too much for this. This is in Poland, not in US, understand? The players are clearly getting fucked in the eye as said by some Polish people here. Add in the 5 hours a day of streaming. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:20 chindy wrote: For those people who dont know anything about european prices etc...What are 600 € Swizerland: u can´t even affort your food per month for 600€ not to mention any kind of living or dont even think of having good food. a small cup of coffee costs about 7sFr(5€/6,5dollar) the Same with Sweden Norway/maybe GB; Austria/Germany/FR/North of Italy: you could affor the rent for a very small appartement if it is not in the center of a town or anywhere near a famous street or building or sight. but thats it no food or anything.... PL/Czech rep./Hungary/mb a few other eastern european countries: 600€ is enough. and they get that from every player + sponsors. That's basically only true for Switzerland and Citys like London, Paris or Munich. You could get over 100m² in Berlin for 600€. And I rarely pay more than 200€ for food per month, even though I eat quite a lot. [/QUOTE] Dude i ment 600 for food+appartment +inet+maybe go out on weekend +maybe go to an event onetime ,,, i bet you will have to pay mor than 600 [/QUOTE] MoW does not pay their "go out on weekend" or "go to an event one time" expenses, or do they? Nobody is saying that you can live with 600€ a month everywhere in europe, but just for a room in a dorm plus one hot meal a day in what is one of the more cheaper cities in Europe is definitely off a bit. | ||
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Inzult
Sweden13 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote: We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay. What the fuck, so i pressed F5 for 30 minutes to be told that i have to wait? | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:20 1Dhalism wrote: I apologize for what i'm sure is beating a dead horse but after i read I already made my mind up that it's a scam. Honestly: Why? They could price it at 2000€ / month. If enough players would take that offer (which means they think it's worthwhile) without anyone else offering a cheaper & better (or: better priced) environment it's their right. And it's good business. If they're really so overpriced, everyone (who didnt stay in MoW hue hue hue ^^) is allowed to open his own teamhouse and attract players. Should be no problem. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote: Stupid drama made by Fuzer... Destiny has 100% right. Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid. Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back. You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen? kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW. If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will. No it isn't. Even in Poland, you have to pay taxes. And if Fuzer really didn't get a receipt, that's illegal right there. No need to look further. | ||
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-StrifeX-
United States529 Posts
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Vermiiifuuge
Korea (South)112 Posts
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote: We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay. If your statement is done, why not release it? | ||
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