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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Sailincieri
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland83 Posts
September 12 2012 21:36 GMT
#801
On September 13 2012 06:32 ErAsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.

Can you not read? He didn't decide to leave, he was forced to leave.


"So I decided to leave the house." - Fuzer

They should let him stay? WTF? Think...
Fearce
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark48 Posts
September 12 2012 21:36 GMT
#802
Polish people aren't known for great English, so they probably wrote their statement in polish and forwarded it to some polish eSports thingy with awesome English skills to translate it before releasing,
Its the manprobe!
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
September 12 2012 21:36 GMT
#803
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.


No way man...

Destiny sheds some great insight on the matter but it doesn't give a clear answer. Fuzer had every intention of reading the contract and it's not clear whether he was even presented a contract before going. He wanted legal consultation before signing which is 100% reasonable... and for some reason they were rushing him. Even if MOW was 100% within their limits here, why would they act the way they did if it was legitimate? He already paid them money for a month's rent so he obviously wanted to stay in the house but for some reason they didn't want his lawyer to see the contract... why? And renting a house isn't like staying in a hotel... why would you make a comparison like that?
p1cKLes
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 21:37:22
September 12 2012 21:36 GMT
#804
It sounds like someone is scrambling to put out a statement...
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
September 12 2012 21:36 GMT
#805
On September 13 2012 06:34 AveGod wrote:
To the ppl that are saying that for 600Euro you can live like a God in Poland... well you people apparently know shit about this country and cities like for example Sopot or Warsaw. For 600Euro you MIGHT be able to survive after renting a one room flat, paying all the bills and buying yourself a food. And I wouldnt be so sure if I would actually survive with these 600 euro.


this (i live in Warsaw for 8 years)
oh in the sun sun having fun
IamZieK
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada162 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#806
Taking away the accusations made. As a company to say you are releasing a statement in 2 hours then its not released in 2 hours. That only hurts your credibility to what ever you can say. To me it just shows you need more time to think of a cover story fans will go with because its probably true. If it didn't go down like the first post says it should have been no problem and easy to release a statement.

Best thing you can do is just be honest and take the hit and move on. e-sports has pitchforks if they catch you lying to them.........
thecrasher
Profile Joined October 2011
Turkey28 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#807
It is your fault to move the house before signing the contract and show it to your lawyer. These things happens in business; you just need to be more experienced.

GL with your situation.
2nd is the first loser!
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#808
"Our ridiculous and trash post has been given to a trusted source to make it sound more professional and make us look less stupid."

Although I agree with Destiny, they're still being trash.
The universe created an audience for itself.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#809
On September 13 2012 06:33 Mohdoo wrote:
I dunno why you guys think the statement being released elsewhere makes a difference. They already have the capacity to release the statement as slanted as bias as they want. It going somewhere else first doesn't make a difference.


They can put it where doesn't have Fuzer's side / already got riled up and hope for a more sympathetic audience to battle the TL crowd.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#810
On September 13 2012 06:32 ErAsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.

Can you not read? He didn't decide to leave, he was forced to leave.

What I get so far is this:
-Arrives at the place without having payed in advance and without having signed a contract.
-Pays in cash without getting a receipt (no other explanation as to why the "Boss" guy claims he has no proof).
-Decides he wants to take more than a couple of days to sign the contract.
-Boss sets deadline aka "Sign my shit or leave"

Dude doesn't want to sign and is forced to leave. Why exactly are you complaining that he was forced to leave? =/
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#811
On September 13 2012 06:33 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:28 GuitarBizarre wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.



Hey, you know that TeamLiquid is a respected eSports news source, right?

No, fucking really. It is. They do event coverage and interviews and everything. Its kind of what the entire site is about.

But not every poster is.

The reach of esports vengeance is far so how about everyone calm the fuck down.

Providing the statement to another source shouldn't hinder them of releasing it here unless they have something else in mind (an agenda) ... which they certainly have.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#812
On September 13 2012 06:36 Fearce wrote:
Polish people aren't known for great English, so they probably wrote their statement in polish and forwarded it to some polish eSports thingy with awesome English skills to translate it before releasing,


That is why they are writing their updates about their statement perfectly in English...
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
Spyryt
Profile Joined September 2012
United Kingdom3 Posts
September 12 2012 21:37 GMT
#813
On September 13 2012 06:36 Sailincieri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:32 ErAsc2 wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.

Can you not read? He didn't decide to leave, he was forced to leave.


"So I decided to leave the house." - Fuzer

They should let him stay? WTF? Think...


Pretty sure he meant he decided to leave instead of signing the contract as he would have been removed if he didn't sign the contract...

Thus he was effectively forced to leave.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
September 12 2012 21:38 GMT
#814
damn you boss!
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
September 12 2012 21:38 GMT
#815
On September 13 2012 06:36 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:34 Awesomeness wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:31 Gardel wrote:
HOw do yo fucking dare MoW to imply TL is not a serious and trusted news source, it has been my life for 8 years, personally Fuck you and sorry for the language but I´m mad.


I love how people get mad over random stuff. oO

He never said that TL isn't a reliable news source. There is also a difference between TL the site and TL the forum.

Maybe ESFI is wrting a piece right now and getting another Fuzer statement on that as well. Some people really need to relax...


They have Team Liquid account... They can use that to release the statement themselves, just like they have been providing updates about their statement....


I'm not saying they are doing good PR here, but I find it hilarious how upset people get over a statement being delayed a little.
xlord 5:0
YouthSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom355 Posts
September 12 2012 21:38 GMT
#816
On September 13 2012 06:35 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:25 MinistryOfWin wrote:
We have provided our statement to a trusted eSports news source, who is working on a related story. Coming soon, sorry for the delay.


You've got to be kidding me.

You people do realize that when someone accuses you of running a shady business, you probably shouldn't promise to release a statement in 2 hours and then two hours later tell us you've decided to do something different.

I'm going to wait to hear what the statement is before passing judgement, but telling the community you're going to do one thing and then to do another is causing MoW to lose credibility quite quickly from my perspective.


I must agree here... MoW looking like shit right now! Better do something quick or else this could very well be their demise!
The more I practice, the luckier I get!
Leijona
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland56 Posts
September 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#817
On September 13 2012 06:37 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:32 ErAsc2 wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.

Can you not read? He didn't decide to leave, he was forced to leave.

What I get so far is this:
-Arrives at the place without having payed in advance and without having signed a contract.
-Pays in cash without getting a receipt (no other explanation as to why the "Boss" guy claims he has no proof).
-Decides he wants to take more than a couple of days to sign the contract.
-Boss sets deadline aka "Sign my shit or leave"

Dude doesn't want to sign and is forced to leave. Why exactly are you complaining that he was forced to leave? =/


Because the same day he got to see the contact, he was asked to leave.
lolstarz
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 21:39:25
September 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#818
All I want to know is...who/what on earth is a trusted esports news source? ESFI? ESL? ....Slasher?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#819
On September 13 2012 06:36 Sailincieri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 06:32 ErAsc2 wrote:
On September 13 2012 06:23 Sailincieri wrote:
Stupid drama made by Fuzer...

Destiny has 100% right.
Its not some kind of playground :/ Fuzer should read contract before going there, and before he paid.

Boss said some stupid shit too, but MoW have the right not to give all (2000zł) money back.
You reserve a hotel room for a month and a week later you decide to leave. What do you think will happen?

kropekkk is a 'shady' figure, but in this case Law is on the side of MoW.
If MoW decide to give all of the money, it will be only their good will.

Can you not read? He didn't decide to leave, he was forced to leave.


"So I decided to leave the house." - Fuzer

They should let him stay? WTF? Think...


He chose not to sign the contract at the moment, which by itself does not translate into desire to move.
But MoW made it a choice between "leave the house" or "sign the contract now".

So yes, he decided to leave, but it was not his original intention.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
September 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#820
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