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Stop derailing with living cost talk On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote: Press Release: http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012 Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com. - Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00) On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote: http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims - Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Is this standard in Finland? | ||
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Destiny
United States280 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:53 nightshade85 wrote: Are you sure you're not a part of the MoW management? You're acting awfully hysterical considering the situation. You said it yourself: We will know as soon as MoW release their statement. Why defend every comment made about the situation? Fuzers intent was good. I can confirm everything Pally is saying. But then again, I only saw the contract, maybe you're more qualified to disagree ... | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:52 Leijona wrote: Standard western countries, I dont know what communist country you live in though. do you put your cereal in the oven? On September 13 2012 04:52 Roman666 wrote: Someone be so kind and report this poor excuse for a poster please. are you saying its not standard poland? you can pm a mod if you think its worth it but i assumed it was a joke that i just didnt get | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:48 bonifaceviii wrote: These kind of clauses are in there more to scare people than to create any sort of legal obligation. If Fuzer set up a gaming house a couple of years after staying in MoW they'd have a really hard time trying to go after him for it (ie it wouldn't be worth their while to do so). It can be a scare tactic, but I've seen many lawsuits where the old company believed the ex-employee breached the contract in terms of tampering or prying other employees away. Yeah MoW would have a really hard time enforcing such a thing, but non-competes aren't anything new. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:53 Willba wrote: However if they don't refund him the remainder of the rent it will look really bad for them and damage their reputation a lot, so I think they will have to give Fuzer his money due to community pressure. it shouldn't take a top post on reddit to get your money back, but yeah they should give him his cash back | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:44 Destiny wrote: This is going to sound incredibly dickish, and it definitely doesn't excuse MoW from acting dickish, but there's nothing to keep them from keeping the money. You never, ever, ever, ever, ever give someone money without signing a contract first or at least asking for a receipt. It depends. It's still stealing, just hard to prove. I think in practice most people will rather pay back the money than lie in court. And if he admits taking the money his lawyer might just advise him to pay it back to avoid any issues. | ||
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
Looking forward to the other side of the story~ | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:53 Willba wrote: However if they don't refund him the remainder of the rent it will look really bad for them and damage their reputation a lot, so I think they will have to give Fuzer his money due to community pressure. I think the part where Boss said about the confirmation could be a simple mouthing. Not that I approve of such behaviour, but people when angry do/say stupid things. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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necrimanci
70 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:52 Roman666 wrote: Someone be so kind and report this poor excuse for a poster please. uh oh. Would it change anything if id say that im from poland? | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:54 bonifaceviii wrote: Fuzer not only once, but twice paid rent in cash without getting a receipt or signing a contract. Is this standard in Finland? Because one guy screws up, doesn't mean the whole nation does. | ||
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Vermiiifuuge
Korea (South)112 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:54 Destiny wrote: You sign an NDA to see the contract. You can't just send it off to random people, there needs to be evidence that someone is working as a legal counsel to the party you're contracting. It's not just a "oh trust me he's my lawyer" kind of thing. Jesus, I understand how much we all love to get in on the drama and what not, but if you don't have at least the basic semblance of business sense why even bother posting in this thread? Yeah, having to sign an NDA to see the contract seems very legit and doesnt scream "something fishy's going on" at all! | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:53 nightshade85 wrote: Are you sure you're not a part of the MoW management? You're acting awfully hysterical considering the situation. You said it yourself: We will know as soon as MoW release their statement. Why defend every comment made about the situation? Fuzers intent was good. Becase what fuzer write is not true.. ? and i defend the true ? ( dont know abouth rest of the post , but 10 years thing , that you cant join another house is not true ) , you got some problems with true or what ? , i was thinking that everyone wanna true here.. Im not posting abouth rest of Fuzers post , i post only abouth that what he read wrong and then write here. | ||
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Valmar
Finland8 Posts
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VPVanek
Canada238 Posts
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:54 Destiny wrote: You sign an NDA to see the contract. You can't just send it off to random people, there needs to be evidence that someone is working as a legal counsel to the party you're contracting. It's not just a "oh trust me he's my lawyer" kind of thing. Jesus, I understand how much we all love to get in on the drama and what not, but if you don't have at least the basic semblance of business sense why even bother posting in this thread? Then the question is - why did Fuzer's lawyer not pass MoW's requirements? They wanted my lawyer to send some verifications that he is actually a qualified lawyer before they would send it to him. MoW never got the stuff they wanted so they never sent it to my lawyer(It felt to me that they didn't want anyone who actually knew more about the law stuff to see contracts like this ) It'd be good to know more info on the above. Also, one other poster said that Poland law requires all contrats to be made in both Polish, and the foreigner's native language. Is this true? And did this happen? | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:56 Roman666 wrote: I think the part where Boss said about the confirmation could be a simple mouthing. Not that I approve of such behaviour, but people when angry do/say stupid things. Amusingly it completely obliterates any claim he might have had to an implied contract. | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:57 necrimanci wrote: uh oh. Would it change anything if id say that im from poland? You could be even from North Pole, but it wont change a thing. | ||
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:53 EtherealDeath wrote: Hmm.... 3 here in the US. More if I'm on a heavy exercising schedule. In Poland it's usually 1-2 hot meal a day. Maybe because 15 years ago and earlier ppl couldn't afford more and it's the same ever since. | ||
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Fuzer
Finland266 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:57 pallad wrote: Becase what fuzer write is not true.. ? and i defend the true ? ( dont know abouth rest of the post , but 10 years thing , that you cant join another house is not true ) , you got some problems with true or what ? , i was thinking that everyone wanna true here.. Im not posting abouth rest of Fuzers post , i post only abouth that what he read wrong and then write here. Sir, maybe you should read again what I wrote? | ||
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